Austin Wolf has been busted

[Tempusfuget]

8 hours ago, fbyvr said:

I’d also be very very upset for a while until I can find something else to distract me effectively…but yes. Going without sex is possible.

Try a monogamous marriage. People can manage without.

[Leather-lee]

2 hours ago, Tempusfuget said:

Try a monogamous marriage. People can manage without.

Not for me. Multiple random cocks and hole is my game. 

[brnbk]

 

On 7/7/2024 at 1:36 PM, BootmanLA said:

 If the indictment said that Wolf had, say, sent 300 files to various people, then each of those would be a separate "count", and each one would have to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt in order to convict on that count. That would mean a trial lasting weeks, or months, and for what purpose? The mandatory minimums and the sentencing guidelines are already very harsh for even a single incident of CSA material.

Thank you for filling me in, on how the indictment/sentencing process work, as I was not sure if the complain document that we are referencing is the official "Indictment" or not. I am curious if fresh charges can be brought up by the prosecutor, if the present charges fail in court: If the judge/jury finds him not guilty of sending 300 files to various people, could the prosecutor then come up with a fresh charges of say, we have evidence that Austin exchanged illegal CSA files two years or knowingly did try to hook up with an underage guy. 

 

On 7/7/2024 at 1:36 PM, BootmanLA said:

Dude: according to the agent who sought the arrest warrant, the Telegram account shows files sent FROM Austin's Telegram TO the cooperating witness's Telegram. Not part of a group, not something that some rando shared with thousands of others - a direct, one-to-one transfer of files.

 

we are not sure what they are referring to as CSA/underage material. For e.g. it is often tough to gauge the age of a guy.  For e.g. i was watching a Channel 4 documentary, where the gay porn star in question, ironically also called Austin, Austin L Young!, says he is proud of playing a little boy and no one can make him feel otherwise. One look at him made me feel uncomfortable coz i honestly feared he was in the 14 to 16 range. Turns out he is 24!! I noticed in the complaint document/Indictment, it is alleged that Austin shared files containing sexual material of a 10 yr old, the age being determined by the filename, which was in Spanish! How would Austin know that as he is most likely not a Spanish speaker? 

The original source  of these files that where sent from Austin's Telegram a/c is also very relevant IMO. If Austin where  truly a pedophille, he would have gone searching for these files, have a collection of them and he would be pretty driven by such material as that is the only thing which would give him sexual pleasure.  If on the other hand, where these files sent by someone to Austin on his telegram account, which Austin later forwarded possibly to  this guy twink TUSer1/FBI Employee1 coz the twink TTUser1 told him he was 18 yrs and 18 weeks old and wanting to have sex with him, — and Austin did not want to miss out on it and just provided to this man(?) twink what he wanted.— the extent of Austin's culpability can definately be questioned.  If does not make sense that would a pedophille only have files on his phone and not on his computer. an SD card is the storage on ones  phone and  and the SD card is where Austin would have received any files from Telegram and this is probably the source of these files. Who sent him these files in the first place, is very relevant IMO. 
 

Human sexuality is complex and judging sexual behavior outside of its context leads to erroneous judgements.  

For e.g., Two guys could be have a good time in the park and suddenly they could become deviants/exhibitionists etc, I think the context and background of an act really make a difference to the situation, and helps determine if something is a crime. Like if two guys deliberately start having sex right in the middle of the park, during a time when there are usually lots of people around, and there are people around - it is clearly they intended  to be exhibitionist. However, if two people have sex during the evening time in the bushes and the police cars come raiding with their signs to catch the 'deviants' — I personally am not convinced of their crime. 
 

I actually admire guys who stand up for their fetishes. I know for e.g. I am attracted to rougher masculine hairy older guys. I don't know why but i always have. I also have preferred anonymous sex. Let us say i live in a culture where homosexuality is [banned word], and as a porn star i film scenes in a local park. it wont take long for the authorities to claim i have defamed the park, the city, coz i shot a sexual movie - a porn movie in their park. My point is, Austin could have become a victim just because of his particular tastes for younger men and was on the watch list of some people. 

 

On 7/7/2024 at 1:36 PM, BootmanLA said:

It's certainly not impossible for this to be an elaborate frame job, but it seems really, really overcomplicated for that to be the case.

The day you make a political statement like the one Austin did, about black rights in America, you will become a target.  :  "White privilege is real. I'm fully aware of what it is and what it means....................I know I have a head start in life. I'm 6'4, 265 lbs, and I'm white. It doesn't get much easier than that." 

I simply am not convinced that Austin is a "pedophille". 

[Infected]

In US law, if you have in your possession in any matter (print, film, or electronic), distribute, or knowingly seek out underage sexual or sexually-suggestive material; one will be charged with a felony and most likely will be punishable regardless of how or when it was obtained.  
Austin had in his possession a SD card with a trove of child porn on it and distributed said porn with another individual.  This is a no-brainer case and we should expect Austin to accept some type of plea agreement with the feds in the next few months to save himself time and embarrassment of a costly and slim to no-chance trial. 
 

[ellentonboy]

I have to agree with what @Infected posted.  IF he is even FORTUNATE that they offer him a plea deal, he should grab it.  The sooner the better because the first offer will probably be the most generous, meaning he'll spend fewer years behind bars.  From what the sentencing guidelines look like, judges will look at what the pre-sentencing report says and sentence him accordingly.  He has very little to bargain with, a clean record doesn't get you a pass in a case like this.  

I can't imagine him getting less than 240 months in a federal prison, but stranger things have happened.

[BruxoCub]

I can't trust anyone to get such a gross tribal belly tattoo beyond always coming off as an arrogant garbage tool... and it turns out he is even worse than that. The hommies are going to treat him real cute in cell block 1. Good riddance.

[deepnrawnyc]

I'm sorry enough dumping on Austin already!! I don't know him and frankly never heard of him before the BZ post that started  this thread but after listening to all you guys I have come to feel sorry for him. I totally disagree  that he will get a stiff sentence.  As a first time offender,  with the jails already over crowded, and he has a clean record up until now, I think they will plea bargain and give him a deal.  Now don't get me wrong, I think kiddie porn and raping children is wrong and there is no real justice for the scarring that child will have for life.  However, I do believe someone is innocent until proven guilty, there are two sides to every story and we haven't heard what Austin has to say for himself.  You guys are acting like judge, jury and executioner.  If it was reverse, how would you feel about people judging you like this? You're all acting like it's an open and shut case.  Look at the crimes your future President is getting away with, he's raping democracy and the criminal justice system over and over again and not serving any jail time.

Now excuse me while I go watch Austin's videos and fantasize about him fucking me which I  hope happens one day.

[BootmanLA]

On 7/9/2024 at 2:59 PM, brnbk said:

Thank you for filling me in, on how the indictment/sentencing process work, as I was not sure if the complain document that we are referencing is the official "Indictment" or not. I am curious if fresh charges can be brought up by the prosecutor, if the present charges fail in court: If the judge/jury finds him not guilty of sending 300 files to various people, could the prosecutor then come up with a fresh charges of say, we have evidence that Austin exchanged illegal CSA files two years or knowingly did try to hook up with an underage guy. 

What I linked to was what is called the "complaint" - it's not the indictment itself but rather a statement of the facts that are being presented. It's presented to a judge when seeking an arrest warrant to charge someone with a crime.

The difference between this and an indictment is that criminal complaints are used when there may not be time to present the prosecutors' case to a Grand Jury (who would issue an indictment) - for instance, when there's an ongoing criminal conspiracy and they're trying to prevent a further crime from happening. (Grand Juries typically meet for a couple of days a month for several months or a year, and hear whatever cases the Dept. of Justice wants to present to them). Criminal complaints are also used when there's a concern that evidence might be compromised by waiting.

However, for felonies, once a criminal complaint is issued and the person is arrested, the prosecutors do have to actually secure an indictment (I believe they have 30 days). If the investigation continues and they uncover more evidence, they can seek a "superseding indictment" that adds additional charges, if necessary. But due process requires that there at least be an initial indictment fairly quickly, so the accused knows what he's specifically accused of.

Based on the criminal complaint, he has not been charged with "sending 300 files" to anyone. That's not how this generally works; the penalty for sending one file are pretty much as drastic as sending ten, or fifty, or whatever. It's a lot easier to prove one count of something - you pick the event that's easiest to prove, and they had the receiving phone in their possession when it was sent and found the sending record on the phone seized from the defendant. That's pretty much a slam dunk. (I wouldn't be surprised if they'd gotten the phone company records and linked Wolf's known location with the geographic location of the phone at the time of the transmission for extra proof.)

IF the case fell apart - a jury refused to convict, for instance - the prosecutors COULD bring charges based on other files or transmissions, but they'd be harder to prove without the send and receive records both in hand the way they appear to be in this case.

On 7/9/2024 at 2:59 PM, brnbk said:

If Austin where  truly a pedophille, he would have gone searching for these files, have a collection of them and he would be pretty driven by such material as that is the only thing which would give him sexual pleasure.  If on the other hand, where these files sent by someone to Austin on his telegram account, which Austin later forwarded possibly to  this guy twink TUSer1/FBI Employee1 coz the twink TTUser1 told him he was 18 yrs and 18 weeks old and wanting to have sex with him, — and Austin did not want to miss out on it and just provided to this man(?) twink what he wanted.— the extent of Austin's culpability can definately be questioned. 

Not legally. The possession of such material is a crime in and of itself. Sending such material is a crime in and of itself. The REASON you have it or send it doesn't matter; you can totally have zero interest in sex with an underaged person and it's still illegal to have or send the file.

Just like, for instance, it's illegal for me to have a stash of cocaine or fentanyl. Doesn't matter whether I've never used drugs in my life or never wanted to use drugs in my life: if I have them, I'm breaking the law, and if I sell them to someone, I'm breaking the law. In fact, I suspect that quite a few drug dealers never touch the stuff themselves because they know what it can do; they're just in it for the money. 

On 7/9/2024 at 2:59 PM, brnbk said:

I simply am not convinced that Austin is a "pedophille". 

But he's not charged with being a pedophile; and as I noted many posts back, we don't know - and at this point, can't know - whether he ever had sex with an underaged boy anywhere, any time. And he's not charged with that, either. He's charged with sharing child pornography (or, as others have said, child sex abuse material). Assuming the facts alleged in the criminal complaint are true (and that's what will have to be proven at trial, assuming the indictment tracks the complaint), then he did what he's charged with.

Put simply, "being a pedophile (someone sexually attracted to children)" is not itself a crime. Actually having sex with a child *IS* a crime (at least in this country), but he's not accused of that. Possessing and sending CP/CSAM *ARE* crimes, and he *IS* accused of those.

[BootmanLA]

2 hours ago, deepnrawnyc said:

I'm sorry enough dumping on Austin already!! I don't know him and frankly never heard of him before the BZ post that started  this thread but after listening to all you guys I have come to feel sorry for him. I totally disagree  that he will get a stiff sentence.  As a first time offender,  with the jails already over crowded, and he has a clean record up until now, I think they will plea bargain and give him a deal.  Now don't get me wrong, I think kiddie porn and raping children is wrong and there is no real justice for the scarring that child will have for life.  However, I do believe someone is innocent until proven guilty, there are two sides to every story and we haven't heard what Austin has to say for himself.  You guys are acting like judge, jury and executioner.  If it was reverse, how would you feel about people judging you like this? You're all acting like it's an open and shut case.  Look at the crimes your future President is getting away with, he's raping democracy and the criminal justice system over and over again and not serving any jail time.

Now excuse me while I go watch Austin's videos and fantasize about him fucking me which I  hope happens one day.

You might want to look into what people get for a single count of CP/CSAM even when they plead guilty and cooperate and it's a first offense.

The statutory MINIMUM is 5 years - the judge is not authorized to go ANYWHERE below that. The statutory maximum is 20 years. But those are for a SINGLE count involving a SINGLE file and for relatively (if such a thing exists) benign child porn, like a 16 year old consenting to sex on camera with someone else.

Beyond that, there are guidelines: the guidelines are basically a flow chart that says, based on THIS crime, your offense "level" is X (like a rating). CP/CSAM has a fairly substantial rating. The court then applies enhancements (circumstances that increase the level) and reductions (things that reduce the level). Things like abuse, BDSM, etc. - if involved - mean the maximum can be LIFE. There are a LOT of things that can enhance a sentence, and not a lot that can reduce it - cooperation and acceptance of responsibility are the major ones, and you typically only get a one or two level reduction in the offense level for those. (The guy arrested first, whose phone they used to catch Wolf, will probably get those reductions because he agreed to help in the investigation.)

I'm not suggesting Wolf will get life, or even, say, 40 or more years. But I'd be shocked if he got less than ten to fifteen years, and I would not be shocked if he got at least 20.

[deepnrawnyc]

I'm sorry but I find your 'lawyer' bit getting old, also kind of annoying and tedious. Austin hasn't been convicted of anything yet so all your babbliing is just speculation at this point.  Maybe you're watching too many "Law and Order" episodes.

 

 

Edited July 10 by deepnrawnyc
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[BootmanLA]

Just now, deepnrawnyc said:

I'm sorry but I find your 'lawyer' bit getting old, also kind of annoying and tedious. Austin hasn't been convicted of anything yet so all your babbliing is just speculation at this point.  Maybe. you're watching too many "Law and Order" episodes.

I'm not saying he's guilty. People have raised questions about how the process works, what was alleged to have happened, etc., and I've answered those. People have made inaccurate statements about things like first time offenses and I've corrected those.

I've actually never watched an episode of Law and Order or any of its spinoffs.

But I'd note that nothing is compelling you to read anything I post here. You're free to skip over any post with my name on it.

[deepnrawnyc]

Let's not start a pissing match buddy. You're trying to sound all smart and knowledgable and you're coming off like a big dork. Again, no one asked you directly to explain anything to them or answer any question .  It's fine that you're trying to be helpful but I'm tired of you acting like Austin is a convicted criminal.

And I quote "I'm not suggesting Wolf will get life, or even, say, 40 or more years. But I'd be shocked if he got less than ten to fifteen years, and I would not be shocked if he got at least 20."

Edited July 10 by deepnrawnyc

[Infected]

4 minutes ago, deepnrawnyc said:

Let's not start a pissing match buddy. You're trying to sound all smart and knowledgable and you're coming off like a big dork. Again, no one asked you directly to explain anything to them or answer any question .  It's fine that you're trying to be helpful but I'm tired of you acting like Austin is a convicted criminal.

And I quote "I'm not suggesting Wolf will get life, or even, say, 40 or more years. But I'd be shocked if he got less than ten to fifteen years, and I would not be shocked if he got at least 20."

Dude, back off please.  I have a degree in criminal justice and have worked in law enforcement for a significant period of my life and everything BootmanLA has written is factually correct, if not, I would have countered his statement with additional facts or counterpoints.  
 

Personally, let’s allow the criminal justice system play out.  (I’m stepping out of this conversation now; hopefully everyone else does too). 

[deepnrawnyc]

Dude I didn't say anything about the accuracy of what's been being said. I just said you all seem to keep forgetting there has been no conviction yet.  Someone should stand up for Austin as you 'grandstanders' keep crucifying him. 

If you don't like my post, don't read it. 

 

[ejaculaTe]

On 7/9/2024 at 3:59 PM, brnbk said:

I noticed in the complaint document/Indictment, it is alleged that Austin shared files containing sexual material of a 10 yr old, the age being determined by the filename, which was in Spanish! How would Austin know that as he is most likely not a Spanish speaker? 

If you got that far in paragraph 6(d) of the complaint, you should have seen the next sentence: "The video shows a child of approximately 10 years old bound, beaten, and raped by an adult man." The magistrate judge who issued the arrest warrant on the basis of the complaint could reasonably infer that the FBI agent had watched that video.

 

9 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

the prosecutors do have to actually secure an indictment (I believe they have 30 days).

Yep, 30 days. It's in the Speedy Trial Act (18 USC §3161(b)).