nanana Posted yesterday at 04:13 AM Report Posted yesterday at 04:13 AM Not meant to be a rhetorical question, but what metrics do you think we could hold Trump accountable for, in terms of keeping his promises (whether you think they are hideous promises or not)? And then, also adding whether the promises are good? Here are some thoughts: 1) Trump has often said he's against war and nation-building and in favor of letting other countries be successful on their own without US money and firearms. Has he said this consistently enough (without at the same time saying the opposite of this) to consider it a "promise"? If so, was it a good promise that will move the country in a better direction? 2) Trump has been pretty clear about illegal immigration. Is this a campaign "promise" that can be measured? A good promise? 3) Trump has been pretty clear that military standards are very low and that improving performance is more important than female and trans participation in the military. Is this a "promise"? A good "promise"? 4) Trump has said he wants to cut spending. Is this a "promise"? A good "promise"? 5) Trump has said he's strongly in favor of free speech? "Promise"? "Good" promise? 6) Make America Healthy Again, promise? good? If not these, are there any other discernible "promises" he has made that can be used to determine success measures? Quote
Moderators viking8x6 Posted yesterday at 03:22 PM Moderators Report Posted yesterday at 03:22 PM This is a great question. I'm going to contribute to it with a condensed version of an issue of the Tangle newsletter (a news source well worth checking out, if you're not aware of it) from January 17. Promises: Wars in Gaza & Ukraine: Trump explicitly promised to play a part in ending both of these, ASAP after his election. Federal income tax on social security benefits: Trump promised to end this. Tariffs: Trump promised to institute tariffs to address the balance of trade (along with some other issues). Government efficiency: Trump promised to reduce government inefficiency and waste [my note: this is significantly different from spending, but spending is a reasonable metric] Affordable Care Act: Trump promised to repeal and replace this (but did not say with what). [per capita health spending would be a reasonable metric] Deportations: Trump promised to carry out the "largest mass deportation in US history". [note that he did not promise to reform immigration policy, though there is an obvious need to do so] No Tax on Tips: Trump promised to end taxes on tipped wages, and his platform included a broader call to cut workers' taxes. There are several other line items under "promises" in the article, as well as sections with other metrics upon which to assess Trump's presidency (but that don't have to do with explicit promises he made during his campaign). I'm not linking the article (because it is members only content), but here's a link to their site, and the issue date is 1/17/2025. https://www.readtangle.com/t 1 Quote
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