Venezuela

[tobetrained]

49 minutes ago, PozBearWI said:

I am hopeful our allies, the real ones we had for decades before Donnie, will sanction us, as they should.  

I don't mind this at all, in terms of a "stick" response back the US.

I would hope more Denmark takes Greenland's defense much more serious. Putin has laid (false) claim to Arctic and only due to Trump threats has it or NATO begun to take its defense seriously.

Denmark, like most of the Europeans, had been shirking NATO requirements until recently...they had been between 1% and 1.5% of GDP until Russia's invasion of UKR, minimum requirement was 2%. Now they plan to hit 3% - with the updated 5% agreement by 2030.

[think before following links] https://apnews.com/article/denmark-defense-spending-nato-russia-ukraine-3b499b12cebd1c09535c03085527f9e3

For myself, if they Europeans don't take their own self defense seriously -- which they are starting to do -- coupled with an expansionist Russia (with support from China) we can't stick our head in the sand.

[Erik62]

9 hours ago, tobetrained said:

@Pozzible you word-policed me above and on the word "push" is a separate thread. But on kidnapping and the statement by @Erik62 of "Kidnapping might be a too soft solution" which is clearly implied violence you equivocate. Interesting lines you've drawn.

Clearly, you didn't even bother to read my comment made earlier than your post, copied below:

 

@Erik62 then enlighten, in your mind what is less "soft" than kidnapping beside violence? I'll again call B.S. on this.

You can call BS all you like BUT, the fact remains that the vast majority of the Western World, leaders included, would just like to see him disappear. Taking away his incontinence pads would be a softer way (LITERALLY). He clearly wears them (photos of people standing behind) & I doubt very much he would want to be in public when the inevitable happens. Complete & utter PERSONAL embarrassment would put him out of public discourse. Soft enough 🤣🤣🤣???? 

[tobetrained]

@Erik62 I didn't ask you to make it softer or rewrite. I asked you to admit to what you meant by "Kidnapping might be a too soft solution."

That quote meant you were implying something more. But you avoided that. Probably for the best.

[Erik62]

41 minutes ago, tobetrained said:

@Erik62 I didn't ask you to make it softer or rewrite. I asked you to admit to what you meant by "Kidnapping might be a too soft solution."

That quote meant you were implying something more. But you avoided that. Probably for the best.

I meant exactly what I said. Kidnapping would solve the problem very easily but create a major headache for both the US & the WEST. It would also fail to give Trump the humiliation he needs to experience. A much harsher penalty would be Trumps complete humiliation in public, such as his incontinence panties being hidden. He would not dare go out in public with an explosion 💥 obvious in his pants. Kidnapping is a softer solution. Trump will only disappear when his humiliation is total. 

I might add you are talking to a supporter of capital punishment & you are perfectly within YOUR RIGHTS to interpret my words however you choose & disagree but, you are not entitled to abuse me (verbally). You are obviously extreme LEFT & I fully understand where you are coming from. I can also see how this political group is destroying western cohesion, which is in turn leaving us open to INCREASING right wing activity. 

I have made my comments & answered your questions. I DO NOT need to say anymore. This line of discussion is NOW FINISHED. 

[hntnhole]

16 hours ago, Erik62 said:

A much harsher penalty would be Trumps complete humiliation in public,

I laughed my way through much of your post, Erik62; you possess a "gift" for insinuation.  That said .....

I'm not sure the man is capable of being humiliated, in the sense that a person would need some sense of self-worth to even feel humiliated, and he possesses not a shred of it.  He knows he's utterly without any measure of merit, he knows he's nothing but yesterdays turd. 

Yet, he craves endorsement of his craven neediness - surely a learned response to his self-knowledge of how desperately he has failed as a human being.  For instance, t's pitiful how he - or any leader - would beg for justification by receiving the Nobel Peace Prize.  If there were such a disgrace as the "Hitler Murder-Millions Prize," his craven thirst for recognition would probably want that one too.  This miscreant - this "accident of nature" - knows his worthlessness deep in the rotten recesses of his mind, which allows him to engage in outrage after outrage; ever deeper, ever more odious. 

There is only one answer, but I doubt my spelling it out would be at all proper.   

 

 

[tallslenderguy]

Lots of discussion with Senator Warner on Venezuela.

 

[PozBearWI]

Maybe @hntnhole.  But I think he truly believes he is the most perfect human to walk the earth.  

[hntnhole]

You're probably right ... isn't it stunning how a person's mind can enable such poor behavior ???

[tobetrained]

It takes extreme behavior to create change, right.

Here's a possible benefit:
[think before following links] https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/08/senate-votes-to-restrict-trump-on-venezuela-00716127

Congress has spent decades abdicating its authority then grandstanding on outcomes, for electoral purposes. Maybe, just maybe, they will get their act together now and reclaim their constitutional duty.

[tobetrained]

3 hours ago, hntnhole said:

There is only one answer, but I doubt my spelling it out would be at all proper.

Free speech is a good thing.

But thick skin to handle those who will call you out while exercising their right free speech is also important.