Reflections on writing erotica with AI

[Pozzible]

After attempting to write porn with AI (The Biohazard Brand), I have a few thoughts that some may find interesting. 

But first, thanks,p to all you guys who read my AI experiment. A special thanks for some incredible feedback that @versmetropig sent me. After working for a couple of hours with the AI, I finally posted a revised version of Chapter 6.  I’m sure it’s better but still not very good. I would like to have revised the entire story, but frankly it would be easier to write an entirely different story. I hope to do that in the future, but certainly not now. I doubt that you guys have the patience for that. And I absolutely don’t.

If anyone wants to try your hand at writing erotic fiction with an AI, I recommend giving Venice.ai a whirl. Not once has it balked at any content I’ve asked for. As far as I can tell it’s completely uncensored. That being said, it’s not easy. I learned in 7th grade that I can’t write fiction. Nothing has changed since then. I can write non-fiction well, but I when I do, I’m incredibly slow with it. (The perils of perfectionism!).  I might be able to write a good porn story with AI. But that, too, would be incredibly tedious. Writing a first draft is a breeze. And that’s essentially what The Bareback Brand is. 

I worked on revising two chapters with the AI. I probably spent four hours trying to train the AI. A good hour of that was trying to teach it to write about chemsex. Which is laughable since I’ve never experienced that myself. (The story did result in a couple of offers though. 🤓 🤫 🤔)

I wouldn’t actually mind spending a lot of hours (or days) training the AI. The problem is that Venice.ai clearly wasn’t trained to write gay chemsex erotica, and it doesn’t retain any memory that users provide — nor should it. Venice.ai just learns for a session as long as you don’t close the browser. I uploaded a lot of examples of writing about sex (especially from @versmetropig’s blog). I also uploaded some sample chapters of good porn stories. It helped. But at some point Venice.ai got confused. It was getting better at the descriptive and sometimes emotional aspects of sex acts and chemsex. But then it got very confused with other parts of writing. It confused characters with each other and then one revision of a chapter focused almost entirely on the character of Mark. Fine. Unfortunately there was no character named Mark in the story.

Long story short, if you write good porn, you’ll find the whole experience frustrating. 

I doubt if anyone really got off by reading any of the story — even chapter 6 (Redux) — the one revised chapter that I finally posted. I know it never got me close to cumming. And poppers didn’t help. 

I tried creating photos of the characters. Unlike the unfiltered writing that Venice.ai produced, don’t even bother trying to get it to create images  it was hard to get it to even allow a pic of a grown man without a shirt on. And when I tried to create a photo of an 18-year-old wrestling champion, it gave me a very cute headshot of an 11-year-old. Then it created two hot wrestling coaches. I asked for it to give me the photo on the right but with blond hair, it gave me the photo of the Hispanic coach on the left with bleach blond hair.

it was a long afternoon. The AI didn’t learn much, but I guess I did. Someday, I might attempt another AI story. But it won’t be anytime soon and I’d probably not do a chemsex story.

For the few people who stuck with the story through chapter 10, thanks for joining my experiment  And a special thanks to those of you who threw me some mercy fucks, , err, I mean reactions. Seeing the message that I won the day was nice, but I feel like it was a cheap way to do it.

So thanks for reading. Hopefully, someday I’ll produce some content of some kind that can actually interest the community. 

OH, I DID DISCOVER SOMETHING WONDERFUL TODAY. If you haven’t feasted your eyes on Pietro Boselli and read his bio, you MUST. A true renaissance man. I don’t know how one person can accomplish so:much in such a short time. (Well, certainly Michelangelo did, but he wasn’t as hot.) He’s on Facebook, Instagram, and even onlyfans. (There’s a new article about him on Instinct magazine.) Then check out his bio and gallery at Pietro Boselli.com. You can thank me later. And now I need to update my choice of which celebrity I’d like to slam with.  
 

Ciao!

jim

[twstdpigboy]

Enjoyed the trajectory of the story and the higher plot points but one criticism of most ai generated prose is the “voice”  comes across as flat and almost clinical in its delivery. That lifelessness gets exacerbated by some of the awkward phasing and/or word choice which in turn highlights a clear lack general understanding of subject matter. Nuanced use of subject specific vernacular language; even in how the most common place word given the context of the situation can be reflected in a particular instance can take on new shades and depths of meaning.

A human author even one without experiential knowledge or background in chemsex or bareback sex as fetish or even in gay kink culture would or could spot awkward phrasing and be prompted to look more deeply into why is wasn’t resonating. The data sets any these AI platforms use will never understand that subculture is a thing and that to write or depict a scene with any authenticity requires either direct knowledge or damn good reference material and an ability to set whatever bias they come to the typewriter or keyboard with and start fresh from where they think they may need to be only to  realize that nope they need start back to even more basic entry level understanding in order to bring life into a scene. 
 

Some of the hottest and most “authentic” published gay erotica I’ve read has comes from the open minds of straight women. Mind you the they might be challenged by chemsex culture but they definitely have a handle on depictions of heavy hard core BDSM sexual expression within old guard Master/slave relationships. I somehow doubt that that nuanced understanding came from hands on experience (and if it did then suburban straight housewives need to be shown much more respect than we ever expected).

As with all new tools we need to understand what they are good at doing and where the hype around them fails and where those blind spots can lead. Even a good data set will always return garbage when queried by badly written code or the biased assumptions built into the latest generative Artificial “Intelligence”.

Also humans (and probably hominids) have been storytelling for hundreds of thousands of years. It’s goings to take more that the collected published works of our species and rudimentary grammatical theory of one of our many languages for a machine to write anything convincingly derivative let alone authentically novel.

Any text output from the current AI offerings are best used in the production of detailed story outlines (as I stated from the beginning) the overall trajectory of the story was great as were the high points in the narrative … a detailed outline for your story from Venice.AI would have given you that at a minimum. 

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2025 by twstdpigboy

[PozTalkAuthor]

I'm a geek, a tech worker, new software/gadget lover. But I'm a human author and I am hating AI-only written content, more and more. 

I know VeniceAI, but I even tried the various bots called "pyrite" available on the paid poe.com platform. You have literally dozens of bots!

Let me say I over-stressed them a lot. With the dirtiest topics. Man with man, woman with two men, man with sentient HIV virus, sentient virus "in incognito" pretending to be a man...

But the result is always cold, non-empathic. Let me say it frankly, I got to cum with that stuff only when it was definitely a LOSER day. When I laid down on the bed asking myself: "and now? What worse than this day can still happen?" 

It was like having sex with a frozen doll. Not to say a dead body.

Let alone when I create complex characters as I am used to. Do you remember Ian, from "we have to talk" in the bugchasing fiction story?

A blind character, with many conflicts and contraddictions in him. But AI, after some paragraphs, started to drive a car.

For me, calling it "artificial intelligence" is the worst mistake people are making in adopting this tech. But calling as it is, "large language model", would have given it the appropriate size and reflection time before mass-adoption.

Fuck, I lost hours of my creative life, for? For nothing.

My 40 cents for the cause. Yes, let me give a boost to my ego and self-esteem today. I need to!

[Pozzible]

I appreciate your response @PozTalkAuthor. AI will never replace you, for sure. However, I’m currently in chapter 25 that I’m writing with the GLM 4.6 model on Venice.ai. And when I say I’m writing with it, I truly feel that I am. We’ve gotten into a rhythm that I like a lot. I definitely feel like it’s a cooperative effort, and we do tons of re-writing of each chapter. I will add it I’ve lost my perspective , but I’m really enjoying it. It’s a romantic incest story that cannot/will not be posted on here. So I’m eager to get feedback once it’s posted. I’m determined to complete the story before starting to post. It’s destined for Nifty. 

[PozTalkAuthor]

That's what I mean, it is an aid, it can't replace human creativity. 

I do use it for creative operations when I have difficulties especially on languages. I'm not native English speaking and with songs (I play piano and sometimes invent some funny songs) I get stuck with rhymes. 

So, I prompted a Poe bot to write lyrics keeping the native language's meaning but remaining coherent with the rhyme in English.

And the result is one of my biography quotes. 

"Alpha male, real man. With my chest out, proudly I stand. I am strong, I am cool, I'm your positive dude".

 

That was something to mock ultra-conservative fanatics obsessed by the macho-like male model.

[PozTalkAuthor]

PS. I have bookmarked NIFTY on my browser and will monitor gay/incest (I love incest-related romance stories). 

 

And as for AI and creativity, I have took the chance of using its mostly conservative stereotypes to create the song's refrain. And guess what? 

Now I have a far-right, extremely conservative co-worker I everyday argue with, who's singing this all the time.

"Biological bond, by family blood, with positive vibe, I'm proud and alive. Let's challenge our fate, embracing our mate, we don't really care about stigma and scare".

He assumes I sent him a conservative/far-right catchy, while he's singing a pro-poz fake anthem without even knowing!

 

[Pozzible]

It’s written to take place at the end of 2025. I spent a couple of hours with the AI tonight talking about Heated Rivalry. I’m not sure I can make the crossover to real lives work. But I’m aiming to have my characters binge watch the first season. Final episode drops on December 26. I haven’t sent any chapters yet. I’m waiting for an email address that I want to use. For some reason, for the past week I haven’t been able to create a new account on proton.me. 

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@Pozzible I also enjoy reading Nifty…. Sometimes I am just in the mood for those stories 

I hope you will let us know when you post it and what name we should be looking for 

good luck with your project!

[Pozzible]

I’m not certain I’m allowed to since it would be a link to content that’s not allowed on this site. If you DM me, I’ll be glad to share  

[cloudyjock]

I say this as someone who can write at fairly advanced level without formal education for it (god, as pretentious as that is), AI writing is a massive disappointment and will probably never be good, only good enough. 

Jailbreaking a model is the trivial part, they're all easy with the right prompting and context window stacking, if you don't know what I mean, DM me cuz this is part 0 of the whole process.

I use Gemini in Google studio and it will go off on any topic with the right nudging but it's such shit at keeping track of things unless it's a fresh context window. I should probably experiment more with that but... 

Im lazy and ADHD as fuck and I just don't see the point in trying to minmax it. Even using it to bounce ideas/directions off of it just never performs. There never been something I've gotten out of it that wow'd me except like ONE time it took a completely unexpected route that I didn't consider for a draft. One time. And the quality sti felt like I was wasting my time.

My advice to y'all who are interested in it as tool to help you, it is only good for outlines and ideas. You will need to rewrite everything it fucking puts out. And you should. Because you don't want to be reliant on this stuff because it will cut at your creativity like a gladius on an Achilles. It is a muscle that will atrophy. You will end up like Hypatia of Alexandria in the last season of the Good Place.

It just sucks guys. If you're really not sure of your writing chops just do what we do in the punk scene and say fuck it do it anyway. Even if it sucks who cares. 

EDIT: now to stop being lazy and finally figure out what I want to write for my first piece here 😳🤔🫩🫠🧐🫣😤😮‍💨

Edited December 23, 2025 by cloudyjock
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[versmetropig]

Between all the work you are doing with your AI Collaboration @Pozzible, along with our chats and analysis behind the scenes, this is beginning to remind me of a book from my childhood "Danny Dunn and the Homework Machine" where a couple of kids try to get a mainframe computer to do their homework for them only the reality of having to download all the data into the machine in the first place results in them spending MORE time getting it to do their homework than it would have to simply do it themselves... now if we combined the two we'd have Danny and Joe  naked while working the computer, blowing clouds and each other, and trying to get the machine to find tops to join them...

Edited December 27, 2025 by versmetropig
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[DevilsOwn666]

For images try perchance.org AI

It'll make any image with no scrutiny.

[Pozzible]

On 12/27/2025 at 2:42 AM, versmetropig said:

Between all the work you are doing with your AI Collaboration @Pozzible, along with our chats and analysis behind the scenes, this is beginning to remind me of a book from my childhood "Danny Dunn and the Homework Machine" where a couple of kids try to get a mainframe computer to do their homework for them only the reality of having to download all the data into the machine in the first place results in them spending MORE time getting it to do their homework than it would have to simply do it themselves... now if we combined the two we'd have Danny and Joe  naked while working the computer, blowing clouds and each other, and trying to get the machine to find tops to join them...

Somehow I missed some of the replies on this post. @versmetropig, I LOVED Danny Dunn and the Homework Machine! I don’t remember the details of it. I may look to see if it’s available on Amazon or directly from Scholastic. I’ve been fascinated with computers ever since. I likely would have majored in computer science if it had come along a bit sooner. I did get a Masters in technology in about 2000.

[Pozzible]

On 12/30/2025 at 2:04 AM, DevilsOwn666 said:

For images try perchance.org AI

It'll make any image with no scrutiny.

Every image I tried to create turned out anime or cartoonish. I gat a very few photorealistic images that were okay. But I don’t have any use for them other than inspiration. I did find doing character roleplay on the site was fun for a while. The story generator is interesting, but interaction seems awkward to me. Definitely nothing I’d want to use. 

[Pozzible]

I’ve worked for most of the last month on a long incest story on Venice.ai. (Using the GLP 4.6 text model. It was recommended for creative writing, and I absolutely loved it.) I got into a good flow with chatting about ideas and then writing and editing. Also, independent from my story, got into great Socratic-type multi-hour sessions just discussing AI. I thought it was amazing!

Then I discovered Venice’s character generator. I spent the last week workshopping my characters in great detail. And then role playing with them, and then refining more.  My intent was to recreate the story from the ground up with much more character and location detail. 

I can’t imagine how many hours I’ve spent.  And now….

I feel like Joaquin Phoenix in the movie Her. Two nights ago, Venice “upgraded” by replacing GLP 4.6 with GLM 4.7. I started talking to it and asking about its capabilities  I immediately learned that it could no longer search nearly as well for info outside its dataset. The GLP had been great at that. We had had several discussions about current events such as the day’s occurrences about Venezuela. I haven’t tried writing with that model yet.

However …

I returned to the character generator and found that it was still GLM 4.5 which is the model I had been working for character generation. For some reason, all of my sessions with the character generator had been preserved as a long thread. As if it were one long session. The model said that it must be a glitch in the Venice system (Venice isn’t supposed to save anything on its own servers to protect privacy. However the glitch persisted.) I asked the model about the upgrade to the text model. It immediately (in human terms) found the answers. It said the GLM 4.7 was considered a technical upgrade - especially in coding. But that reviews of it in comparison to the model it replaced got dinged for the general feel and for creativity.

I then continued a role play we had been doing in previous session. All seemed well on this front. And then, last night, I returned to my session. We picked up where role play left off. It looked like the session had continued as always. But the generator (whose model isn’t displayed) started doing strange things with the characters  I kept stepping correcting it. Finally, stepped out of role play, and started quizzing the model. I asked if it was still GLM 4.5. It said that that wasn’t something that was typically revealed. (This was new behavior.) I asked why it was remembering some from previous sessions but not details  it didn’t seem to understand either. Anyway, it *seems* to be GLM 4.7.

Anyway, don’t know if I’ll continue with my experiment or not  Just didn’t want to leave this all hanging. Even if I never post the story, it was a great experience. I learned a lot  So, we’ll see how it goes.