AI Impact on "what's hot"

[PozToxVersPig]

So my question is this:  Is AI generated imagery like this NOT HOT, AS HOT, or HOTTER than imagery you know to have been created by real humans doing real things?  Does it matter to you if you know that this person in the picture doesn't exist, that moment never happened, and that room he's in and the dirty mattress he's on never was real?

Context:

I have been working in cloud/AI my entire 20+ years of professional life, long before they were terms most knew.  Over the last few days I have played with Grok to understand it's differences to GPT and CoPilot and some of the open-source AI generative tools.

For the purposes of this, it's important to know there are two types of ways AI can create new imagery:

• IMAGE MODIFICATION:  I have a picture of me, I'm wearing a blue hoodie sweatshirt.  I can use AI in some cases to make that blue hoodie red.  Or instead of the blue hoodie, I want to be wearing a black vNeck tshirt.  These are modifications.
• IMAGE GENERATION:  This may draw from real world reference materials (like a supplied headshot) but could also be simple based on creative thinking and prompt writing.  "Create a new human character with the following attributes:  late 20s to late 30s, clean cut, athletic, fit but not overly muscular, short, cropped haircut shaved on the sides, messy on the top, dark brown hair, wearing dark denim jeans, a blue polo shirt, and a red trucker hat.  He is standing in a field of yellow tulips.  A tornado is far off in the background."

With Grok, unlike the others, you have the ability to create very sexual images, so long as there is not genitalia or explicit sex acts taking place.   The image below was created my the prompt I wrote.  This "person," the environment they are in, their body position, the look on their face, all came out of MY head - written as a prompt.  I generated a lot of interesting images last night, which I was sending to friends and asking what they thought, without telling them it was AI.  "That guy's hot, where is he?" or something like that was the first response before I revealed the secret.

I was quite surprised to see the quality of the images and how well they met the guidelines I provided.  It is only a matter of time until we see pornos being generated with AI (it's already happening but not great).  

Edited Saturday at 06:10 PM by PozToxVersPig
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[PozToxVersPig]

BTW, the person above is supposed based on attributes from my reference pictures. Only TWO of the 31 images I generated in different scenarios, scenes, apparel, etc. was I able to see the resemblance between me and the generated image.  

[PozBearWI]

None of us seems to have much a say so on the topic of creating AI imagery.  I would prefer it be required to have some sort of watermark to alert us to it being a fake video.  

HOT...  Well indeed it is possible to create some pretty damned appealing images.  But real guys, in person, is what I crave, not a pretty fake picture.  

[PozToxVersPig]

1 minute ago, PozBearWI said:

None of us seems to have much a say so on the topic of creating AI imagery.  I would prefer it be required to have some sort of watermark to alert us to it being a fake video.  

HOT...  Well indeed it is possible to create some pretty damned appealing images.  But real guys, in person, is what I crave, not a pretty fake picture.  

Totally agree - this isn't about replacing an actual human.  I don't look at a lot of still sexual pictures anymore, though when I was growing up on a 2400 bps modem, you waited hours for just wone picture to download, so it did exist in my past.  I like video pornography though.  And I don't know how I would feel differently if I knew it was AI generated versus real life.  Porn isn't really real to me anyway, so I just don't know yet! 🙂

[BlindRawFucker1]

The whole idea of AI generated porn is fascinating and scary.

 

I understand that pictures have gotten better, but I know that AI created audio is still a bit weird sounding.

 

Telescammers have begun using it, but it is always easy to hear that it isn’t real.

 

The future of reality versus AI, will be interesting.  And, it could be extremely dangerous.

[PozBearWI]

2 hours ago, PozToxVersPig said:

Totally agree - this isn't about replacing an actual human.  I don't look at a lot of still sexual pictures anymore, though when I was growing up on a 2400 bps modem, you waited hours for just wone picture to download, so it did exist in my past.  I like video pornography though.  And I don't know how I would feel differently if I knew it was AI generated versus real life.  Porn isn't really real to me anyway, so I just don't know yet! 🙂

True, at least most porn is I think acting; not documenting a more organic man to man sex scene where someone or two with a camera happened to be there.   I would rather just meet you @PozToxVersPig in a bathhouse and make our own porn.  🐖

[PozToxVersPig]

6 minutes ago, PozBearWI said:

True, at least most porn is I think acting; not documenting a more organic man to man sex scene where someone or two with a camera happened to be there.   I would rather just meet you @PozToxVersPig in a bathhouse and make our own porn.  🐖

Don't say bathhouse - it makes me sad given we have none here in Denver. 🙂 That and I still can't fuck, get fucked, or jerk off still!  I'd have sex all the time if it were that easy to have it that way, in the meantime, porn fills a need - beyond the fact that some create fantasies that I hadn't dreamed of yet. 

[PozBearWI]

Just now, PozToxVersPig said:

Don't say bathhouse - it makes me sad given we have none here in Denver. 🙂 That and I still can't fuck, get fucked, or jerk off still!  I'd have sex all the time if it were that easy to have it that way, in the meantime, porn fills a need - beyond the fact that some create fantasies that I hadn't dreamed of yet. 

Yup, same here in Wisconsin.  Baths gone...

[Pozzible]

I didn’t answer the poll question because it didn’t include what I would choose. I would say it CAN be hot. It’s hard for me to envision that AI porn will be hotter that real photos. But I do think that sometimes it’s hot. And, though I know AI’s capabilities are increasing blindingly quickly, it’s hard for me to envision hot AI porn. I assume eventuall it will be goody. I’ve heard some AI audio that I tight was terrific

[PozToxVersPig]

4 minutes ago, Pozzible said:

I didn’t answer the poll question because it didn’t include what I would choose. I would say it CAN be hot. It’s hard for me to envision that AI porn will be hotter that real photos. But I do think that sometimes it’s hot. And, though I know AI’s capabilities are increasing blindingly quickly, it’s hard for me to envision hot AI porn. I assume eventuall it will be goody. I’ve heard some AI audio that I tight was terrific

AGH @Pozzible there was supposed to be an "OTHER DESCRIBE BELOW" option but I was having an issue saving the survey....and it looks like I didn't catch that change wasn't saved.  I apprecaite the comments.  🙂 It's hard for me to imagine too, but when I saw the generated photos of me yesterday, I was a bit shocked.  That's not video.  For me, some of my favorite porn was early hot dessert knights and tim....there was something about the risk I found appealing.  I'm not worried about an AI actor getting AIV.

[Pozzible]

Well, considering some of the “good” AI photos, maybe chasing AIV could be fun too!

[PozToxVersPig]

I just TGd you some of the images allegedly of me but with accents added.  I honestly wouold love to look like any of those, including all the tats.   I have plenty of tats already but damnnnnn @Pozzible

[hntnhole]

22 hours ago, PozBearWI said:

But real guys, in person, is what I crave, not a pretty fake picture.

AMEN !!!

I think of AI porn pretty much the same as I think of "regular" porn, either printed or on tape - i.e. something that's better than Readers Digest, but not much.    

When all is said and done, real, in-the-flesh actual guy-to-guy sex is what interests me.  Porn is ok, if it scratches the itch, but in the end, it's just imaginary, but at least the actors are "real".  

In the survey, I thought I'd be among a handful of other voters, but - pleasantly surprisingly - I voted with the majority both times.  I'd call that a "throw-down" to the AI folks:  Improve your product or suffer the consequences.  

[blackrobe]

I don't think these questions illuminate my thinking on AI imagery much. Whether it's hot or not, or feels real/authentic aren't even the most important issues.

I think there's a strong case to be made that Generative AI of this type relies on the theft (or at least unlicensed use) of many people's work product (training sets for models contain many, many millions of images in this case) to produce new derivative work products. 

The other issue is the impact of Generative AI images in society. We know that images of real skinny women and muscular men created serious outcomes with various forms of body dysmorphia. There's very strong reason to expect even more severe forms of this and skewing of human beauty and attractiveness standards. The same will be true in the realms of porn and porn addiction in distorting peoples expectations and self-perceptions in comparison.

There are many concerns about these impacts and there's already been lots of scholarship in this area. Plug "AI-Generated Pornography and Its Potential Influence on Homosexuality" into Google and look at the research out there on deepfakes and other forms of AI generated porn.

Ironically, the above in-progress research paper has a notation in the summary text under Acknowledgments, saying "The manuscript was created using ChatGPT."  Even the researchers curious about and studying AI impacts are using other forms of AI to author their research on the subject.