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Soooo....ok. All I've heard in regards to people who get the "fuck flu" from exposure to HIV is the general timeframe of getting sick, if you do, is that it takes around 2-3 weeks after the known incident. I'm wondering if anyone here who's Poz had symptoms earlier? As many of you know I got my XXXmas wish on Friday when I met up with my unmedicated Poz Dom Top and experienced a long MIND BLOWING session in his dungeon and he shot minimum of 8 loads inside me and I also slammed his blood. I was only able to get half a ml bc of various reasons but shot the blood in my own vein directly. Last time he checked his VL was months n months ago for his own reasons but it was up to 600k. Anyway, had an amazing night Friday and then last night (sat) I noticed I'm starting to get a fever and I keep getting weird hot and cold flashes. I've been in a brain fog kind of distant feeling and my whole body and muscles are aching and I've had terrible headaches. I never get headaches. Is it at all possible that small minute symptoms or are effects can show this early? I was in perfect health before our night together. And while I do have issues with back pain/sciatica due to an injury I'm on prescriptions pain meds and muscle relaxant for it so I know what my normal pain feels like. This is different. It's all over generally achy especially in my muscles/joints. But also my point is the pain meds alone I take on a regular basis usually take care of aches or pains when I do get sick. But I don't get sick often. Also my throats been killing me the lymph nodes in my neck area are swollen too. And now today (Sun) its still the same give or take. I know people on this site have said if it is fuck flu someone has they usually will not get the symptoms till at least 2 weeks later. Soooo....what do you think? Is it possible to have symptoms like these so soon after...especially considering that it wasn't just sex. I purposely injecting his high VL blood into my vein. This wasn't a normal blood slam where someone is getting a lil blood when they share a tina slam. This was pure poison blood. Also just fyi that night I didn't do any T so I'm not coming down off anything. I smoked a little pot but I do that all the time with no problems. Don't get me wrong with this party either. I'm not "scared/panicked/freaking out" because I might be getting it. I know I did pick it up from him n when I can test after the appropriate timeframe it will show Poz and actually I look forward and hope to have the "fuck flu" experience. In my head I see it being like morning sickness for a woman who's knocked up. Also I've had no exposure before Friday night. Truth be told because of many circumstance and other issues I haven't had sex with Anything but my hand in at least 8months prior. So it's not like I would get something from someone else. Just curious and look forward to your facts and opinions and two cents on the matter. I know it's supposed to take awhile but it doesn't make sense that I travel to him for this encounter and have been in great health and then ask the sudden as the next day progresses into night and now today all these things are occurring. What's your Fuck Flu experience? How long till you got sick? Do you actually know when you were infected? The last question is definitely one that makes me wonder of why it couldn't happen sooner or almost within days. When exposed to any virus usually symptoms occur in less than 24hrs. Also I know a lot of people who talk about the flu taking that long day they know because of when they were infected but then go on to tell a story if numerous sex partners almost non stop. So how can you be sure? Anyone else who may have been..for lack of a better word...abstinent before fucking someone you knew was Poz and had a very high VL? Guess just looking for answers. Like I said I'm not bitching if that's what this is or its my body trying to fight it but I didn't think it could be this soon. Anyone? Thanks.

Thanks justsexnowatl. I'm glad I followed this thread and as I said last night would be trying Vaseline the first time while bottoming. I can't speak to it for topping yet(I am Vers and haven't got to try it that way. But for bottoming I'm converted. And naturally my Dom had many different lubes available in his dungeon as told me to pick but I made him pick because I wanted him to be happy and as I said it's the only thing he uses (most of the time) and after bottoming with him I am converted to the power of Vaseline as a perfect lube...at least for me. Can't wait to try it when topping to feel the different there. Sigh of relief....Ohh man, dick is a beautiful thing I feel like I found a new pleasurable invention. Keep you posted when I a share Lil something on my FuckFest/covert yesterday.

Ooh I've seen those shooters in porn before. You know what might work, cum to think of it. What about those measuring syringes for medicine for pets and kids. When people would ask for em we'd just give em out free. They're either 3ml or 5ml and its sterilized plastic, not too big that it would hurt to insert. The 5ml ones would be best cuz they're a little longer but you could fill it, insert it and the plunger! Then again 5ml is just a tsp of lube so....how much you want to shoot up there? Do we need the turkey baster??

Well I'll be trying it tomorrow. My Sir uses nothing else. Maybe I'll really like it and convert! Oh...I wonder if I could get Vaseline to sponsor a big bareback party! Hmm....

Good advice. I'm for exploring. How else are you gonna know if you like something or not? I don't think it's for me though. I know I've never fucked another guy without lube and probably wouldn't want to try just because even though I'm Vers I'm more often a bottom(both are nice though) and I've had guys try to figure me right away during make out sessions or foreplay and I'm not into it. It just hurts to me. I was the top in my last relationship-God I hate that word-and my ex always wanted to finger me when we'd make out or while he's going down on me and don't get me wrong, that'd be nice...with a lil lube or spit or precum...but he'd just wiggle on in there dry as a bone and then get pissed when I'd tell him to stop cause he's hurting me. We talked openly about our sex life and I always told him don't do that without at least some spit or precum...might kill the mood to go grab some lube just for that. I love being fingered, especially when my guys giving me head. Hello! Two for one...prostate and dick! But he never listened. It's ironic too because I've never seen a guy in my life dribble as much precum as he did! I'm not joking. We could just be making out (and I know I'm a good kisser and have a nice talented tongue) but within minutes sometimes the entire front of his boxers would look like he pissed himself...except it's precum. I'm ok with that though. Especially when your going down on someone the precum is always the sweetest tasting part. But to have the discussion over n over and him to be leaking precum all around the apartment bc he's so turned on n we're walking to the bedroom and he could never stop to scoop some up to lube my hole? And we fucked bareback too so that wasn't the issue. Idk. He was an asshole. Anyway, went on an ex tangent there but I have a point. He wasn't the only guy who would try that and inevitably I'd have to tell em add some spit or here's the lube or use some cum. But it's almost like the guys I've been with think it's natural to be all wet in the ass or something. I mean, I live in Florida and we're famous for our bad humidity but Damn! I even would try on my own when jerking off or even not I'd try to go slow and finger my own hole without lube and I'd try to get into it or make it work and it just hurt too much! I need lube. But everybody's different though. Good for you if you can fuck without it. I'd probably never walk again...Lmfao.

Yeah keep me posted. And have fun...? hehe

I'm just hear to listen if anyone can answer OP. I've never used Vaseline as lube before but I will be tomorrow during my all day FuckFest. My Dom only uses Vaseline for lube and loves it. Who knows maybe I will too. It's definitely cheaper and available everywhere!

Omg...I've never tried it. Wouldn't it hurt without lube? I've known a few guys who don't use lube and some like it but they've complained over time or depending on the guy there can be a lot of tearing, hemorrhoids, etc. One friend ended up in the hospital...then again he posted an ad on CL wanting to be raped in a hotel by a trucker passing through. I know it sounds hot but when the guy showed my friend decided he wasn't going to be into because the guy was extremely rough from the start. He tried to leave but the guy beat him up and fucked him till he bled. Again I know this is a fantasy for some but when it happens in real life it's not fun at all. I felt so bad for him.

Wise decision if with the family and a quick fyi this isn't something that(in most people even at low dose) needs to take time to build up in the system. You should know changes within an hour of taking it. Don't get discouraged if you don't though since I'm assuming your taking my advice and starting low to see how you feel comfortable but sometimes even on the first day at a low dose while it may not seem obvious that it's working it actually is and just needs a lil push. If after an hour you feel nothing then turn on some porn to get you going and you should notice a difference in your alone time. Btw if you choose to increase dose the best way, even if you don't feel anything different on your starting dose is to still take the same dose for about 3days, then if you choose increase slightly and see how you react. If not happy with it increase again after having stayed on the dose at least three days. Basically tapering up like with a prescription med. But the isn't considered an herb and doesn't act like one. It's derived from certain tree barks that contain the specific stand of Yohimbine. Definitely keep us posted. Can't wait to hear about the fun your having. Also like I mentioned proper diet and exercise are a big factor just in general and do seem to increase its affects. Good luck and enjoy.

I've never used them personally but know a lot of people who have and supposedly they're just as accurate as the oraquick testing. I don't use them bc I don't want to have to pay for something I can get done for free at health dept or through gay/HIV organizations. I wish you could order them online for free like you can in the UK but I'm in the U.S. and we're fucked enough as it is.

Oh definitely...zinc is great too. I ZMA supplement gets all your minerals in there to help regulate male hormone health. I mainly wrote about the Yohimbine HCL because of my crazy experience with it. However I've worked as a pharmacy technician for over 17 years and have a private side practice for natural medicine/vita nutrients/mineral supps. I just can't stress enough though that you please don't buy any of the mixed up supplements you find at the gas station or even health food stores that are specifically for this purpose and claim to be like Viagra or whatever because most of them don't work. I'd rather you do your homework on natural alternatives, get opinions from those who used different herbs or supps and see what works for you. It's much healthier to walk in a vitamin Shoppe or gnc or drug store and pick up a vitamin/mineral/herb than to try those mix matched blends. Not only do they not work they can be dangerous because like the weight loss industry for marketing pills...you never know what you're Really taking! But yeah, try the zinc. Great suggestion arseboy

For a great deep clean...especially if you're on a budget or don't have a reusable anal bulb (which personally I think every bottom should own a reusable anal douche. You don't even need to get it from the sex stores or online. They're available anywhere that has a laxative section and both Walgreens and Cvs even have an inexpensive generic brand) Anyway-my cheap trick of the trade for a good deep clean on a budget. 1. The day before easy light and if possible why not just enjoy a one day liquid fast! 2. The night before right before going to bed down a full bottle of magnesium citrate($1 at drug store) Come morning time you'll be getting rid of everything in your system. 3. Internal salt water cleanse. Bc a simple lax won't clean everything in your track I don't a salt water bath that also helps flush the laxative effects away. Do this in the morning. 6-8oz warm water mixed with 1-3tsp sea salt (it has to be un-iodinized. If it's regular salt your body will absorb it but it you but sea salt without iodine it will not absorb in the body) drink this and then a few glasses of water and you'll flush everything else out of your system. 4. I like to have a good protein shake with 2tbsp of Chia seeds every morning regardless of my play. You don't have to go this but it's a good idea to get some quick, easy and light nutrition in your body before your fuckfest. Plus, Chia seeds, besides being super healthy, are a btms best friend to good digestion. 5. At this point your inside intestinal tract and digestive system it's extremely cleaned out and you shouldn't worry. But...just in case...about 2hours before playtime you can use a fleet enema ($1) to douche with. However you wanna pour out the saline water as its just another laxative and use the bottle to fill with plain warm water. Squirt up and ready until water runs clear. 6. Before I hop in the shower I like to pop a few Imodium(anti-diarrhea otc med) just because with all the cleansing internally with the laxatives this is going to stop the feeling or urge to shit if you still have it(sometimes it lingers when using laxatives) plus it'll help to bulk up any stuff left over you've eaten that day. 7. In the shower just wash your ass thoroughly and and put a soapy finger up there to clean yourself. 8. 1hour before playtime I'll sometimes take a couple more Imodium depending on how my insides feel but you wanna do a quick spot check with the douche again. Even when the water runs clear the first time you douche over time shit can settle in there. So fill it up with warm water, quirt and go. Really give a look at the water. If it's still clear you're good to go! However I always recommend sticking a dildo up there because water can get trapped and this will help it set free and trust me, that water that gets stuck up there can be nastier than actual shit! 9. Once that water is released I'll usually put in a plug that I like to lube up with preparation-h. You don't have to but with all the liquid shooting and douching I get self conscious personally about possible hemorrhoids or strain so this guarantees a nice looking asshole for your top(s). 10. After plugging which I'll wear till they arrive or if going to their place I'll remove it in their bathroom or if they don't care and are into it I'll do it in front of them, I like to take a few gas-x tablets. With all the cleansing of your system and shoving things up your ass You're going to build up some air and I find it polite to not be ripping ass in the face of my top! Plus if your going for a gangbang chances are they're gonna be rough and in and out and slamming your hole which that alone can create an abundance of air in your stomach/intestines. This is why we get stomach ache and pains sometimes during rough sex. It's because of trapped air. So the gas-x for me helps because any air I caused myself during cleaning will be taken care of and you won't need to worry later on. This is what I tend to do if I know I'm having an all day fuckfest. It's quick, painless, cheap And easy! But if I'm just having a hookup, one night stand or plan on a 2 or 3 hr fuck session most of the time I don't bother with most of this shit because truth be told if you take care of yourself and eat right, get some exercise and drink lots of water on a daily basis you don't need to worry about this level of cleaning. I'm 32 and I've never had a mess or shit dick situation once and the cleaning protocol I outlined I've only done maybe 3 times. Normally just a quick douche, shower and go is more than fine and there's been soooo many times I've bottom without any prep at all and I'm still clean as a whistle. Then again I take a daily fiber supp and as I said the Chia seeds in my daily protein shake help. But, in the end it's up to you the level you want to go to in order to prepare. I have found though that as bottoms we tend to over prepare when it's not needed. Not judging cuz I do it too and I'd rather be safe than sorry in the clean factor! Hope this helped.

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I really like to hear here some opinions from tops too.

I feel the same way when I bottom. In my last relationship I played more as a top and it would piss me off that my ex would refuse to use a butt plug and made fun of me for owning them. He seriously needed it! There were times that he was SO TIGHT that no matter what I did I couldn't even penetrate him and get my head in! That's a fucking problem! Then again sex in general with him want that great bc he was always so tight even when I could get in there it wasn't very comfortable or pleasurable for me. Got to the point I'd what for him to shoot from my dick fucking him and then I'd just pull out and make him suck me off. Gee...why didn't I realize sooner that relationship wouldn't work out? Lol.

I've always been a relatively big shooter at times. I find if I'm sticking to a healthy Keto diet as I do, exercise and take care of myself then my loads are natural bigger and thicker. Like I said above when I was taking the Yohimbine Hcl after awhile it felt like my balls were ALWAYS full and needed to be emptied. Every erection brought lots of precum even when not turned on. I could fuck, be sucked or jerk off almost all day and still I would keep coming. Don't get me wrong...on those days of hooking up or jerking off like every half hour it seemed, eventually the loads got smaller and more fluid like but I'd never in my life shoot that many loads in a day before. When I was taking it daily as a workout supp and got to a high dose and was on it non-stop for a month like I said I felt like a sex addict. I couldn't control my erections. There was one day that I did literally jerk off at least every half hour on the hour from the time I got up to the time I went to bed...which was hard to sleep because I was still horny. And yes, my poor Cock was begging for a break! Just be careful how much you take and stay a low dose and test over time how you deal with it. Technically I didn't need it for libido and didn't need the high dose either but as I said I was taking it as a pre-workout supplement n fat burner. Would I take it again? Sure but in a low dose and prob not every day. My libido is pretty healthy right now.

I don't think it's necessarily a fantasy that could happen but my biggest fantasy I've had is to have a big beefy and hairy bear type daddy kidnap me and take me to his house he fucks me senseless and afterwards he puts chains on me so I can't escape and literally turns me into his permanent bitch where I have to cook, clean and service him all day long whenever and however he likes it and he'll also have friends come over and her forces me to service them the same and I'm basically permanently stuck there in the house and unable to leave and have to be his bitch/housewife that he likes to also pimp me out to strangers so I can truly earn my keep to stay there.

I'm a Vers/Btm. Mostly bottom but there is a dominant side that likes to come out and play occasionally. Personally, when I'm bottoming and acting as a Sub I'm not into pain. Naturally there's always some pain when fucking and that's fine but I prefer the Top to take it easy at first and once I get used to them we can go from there. When I top I really like being dominant and pounding hard and all that good stuff. In both positions I love to be verbal and want my partner to be verbal as well. I fucking hate quite sex and most porn pisses me off bc they keep making shit like it's on mute. As a bottom I moan, groan, beg and plead and talk dirty...if my tops into all that. When I top it's the same thing. But I do find it strange that when I'm being a Sub I'm not into pain or excess hurting via kink but when I'm the Top and get to be more Dom I like my Btm to be the type who thinks pain is pleasure. Getting into kinks and all the different roads there are to take I think it's strange I don't want pain inflicted on me but like inflicting pain on others (only if they're into it though). I'm very respectful that way. Is anyone else like this? I mean I've had some sick ass insane fantasies where I'm the Dom and the things I do....like I said fucking crazy. But if I switched roles in my own fantasy and those things were going to be done to me I'd never let that happen. Strange right?

Hi there. I love these forums and getting different opinions about what pleases Tops and Bottoms more in certain situations. In my opinion you can never have too much info on how to please your guy! Question about butt plugs! We btms know all too well that many of us over prepare for having sex or a long fuck session, etc. While I'm fine with extra cleaning preparation (personally I like to make sure I'm clean rough to literally eat off) I want your thoughts on btms using butt plugs before the main event. Some btms use em because it can generally make fucking easier and less painful so we can take more. Some use them because they haven't had anal in awhile and like to make sure they're relaxed and open to accept what you have to give. So tops, do you prefer a bottom who uses a plug before? Can you tell a difference? What turns you on more and feels better for you? And bottoms, do you prefer using a plug before you play? If so, what's your main reason for doing so and what do you find more pleasurable? Thanks guys! Can't wait to hear your thoughts!

When I bought my Yohimbine HCL I found the best price at Vitamin Shoppe. You can find it at any healthfood store and it's usually in the men's health/sexual health section. It comes in tiny capsule that are low dose so you can work your way up if you want but it's powerful even at low dose. As I said before though do not buy Yohimbie. This is a cheap subcategory version of Yohimbine that they put in diet pills and energy/workout supplements. It's not the same thing. Yohimbine hcl is the real true extract from the bark it's found and it will work as needed. Also it's not too expensive either. You could probably also find online through Amazon, vitamin Shoppe, gnc, etc. Misty otc sex enhancers that you find in sex shops or gas stations continue the weaker form Yohimbie along with other crap. Don't buy into it. Most of my life I worked in the medical field and I specialize in herbal/vita mineral/natural supplements. Best of luck

Best supplement to increase libido is Yohimbine hcl. Not Yohimbe, which is a weaker version. I've taken it a half hour or so before sex and it definitely makes me harder/last longer. I'm a multi cummer anyway though. If you take it on a daily basis which I did mainly to help with workout performance at the time, I noticed that in general I thought about sex mood often. I was extremely easy to arouse. My erections continued to be stronger and longer lasting during sex and my loads seemed to be bigger tool. I did stop taking on a daily basis though because it was just too much. I'd get non stop hard ons at work or in the car. Is spend my breaks or spare time on Craig'slist looking for sex and if I couldn't find it I'd jerk off for hours at a time. Even sitting and watching tv I'd feel this urge just to touch and play with my dick. I was seriously bordering sex addict territory. I'm all for a healthy sex life but this was crazy. The last day I took it (finishing the bottle and knowing I was going to stop) I had 3 different guys go down on me to completion, I topped two of them and bottomed for one. These were 3 separate encounters in the same day. And even after all that when I decided to call it a night And chill and watch tv I couldn't help but still play around and would get erections regardless which led me to masturbate every time I was hard bc otherwise I felt I'd go insane. So on top of the 5loads I shot from the guys I was with I masturbated and pumped out another 6over the course of the night. So 11loads total that day. Not too much to complain about but it was distracting and like I said I was turning into an addict. Lol The only thing I didn't like about it other than I already stated is that whenever I got a hard on, specifically the ones you get in the morning and just naturally throughout the day for no reason, I would really leak precum....a lot of it. When I'm excited I'll get a little but literally by the end of the day my briefs would be almost soaked. Even if I wasnt aroused by anything. I could literally just be working and out of nowhere comes a hard on and I'm still focusing on work but meanwhile I can feel myself just leaking precum. It was kinda nuts. Pun intended. But if your libido is below normal this may help. Mine was normal bc like the Above people mentioned I did all the right stuff. Diet, exercise and sleep. This isn't meant for someone with a healthy sex drive. In my opinion Anyway.

Side note...Satanism and Devil Worship are two completely different things. Most Satanist are more along the lines of Levey and his teachings which is basically humanism/atheism and uses Sarah Palin as a metaphoric symbol of claiming yourself as a God and practicing indulgence in your carnal/earthly desires. It's about fulfillment of the ego. That said their as Luciferians and Devil worshippers out their but even those two aren't the same thing. There are as many paths in the occult as there are in any Religion/philosophy. Personally I am a Witch myself and have practiced Witchcraft(the old religion from which modern day Wicca has evolved)my entire life. However I do hold much respect to all occult paths, especially the Satanic/Luciferian theology. All that said it all boils down to Satanism, like barebacking, kink and other fetishes being a social taboo and many in the porn studios and even community itself ate adapting these practices into their sex life's. While the porn is hot, if you're uncomfortable with such imagery or being put in a situation where your in a dungeon surrounded by inverted pentagrams or sigils of Lucifer or Baphomet you need to think twice who you hook up with because many in the community take their practice SERIOUSLY and aren't just in it for the added taboo. Hope this answers your questions. I'd say enlighten yourself a bit and pick up a copy of The Satanic Bible by Anton Levey. That alone will put things more into perspective for you and, even if your not in agreement with such a path, at least you'll have a better understanding of the correlation and if put in real life situation you won't be as uncomfortable. In fact you may just enjoy it! After all Sarah Palin does represent indulgence and not abstinence, including all your carnal desires/pleasures/fantasies and welcomes you to embrace them. Have fun.

Couldn't agree more. Unless I've got a multi cummer on my hands and know I'll be fed or bred. Even still...why waste a load? That's why missionary pays off bc if they try to pull up you can wrap your legs around them and pull em in until they bust inside you. Naturally afterward they think it was their decision but...we know better?

A guy I dated had genital herpes. He told me up front which was nice. I've always had occasional cold sores....maybe once or twice a year...but pretty much everyone has the herpes simplex virus. I was kinda worried about this one. He said he had it for about 5 years and luckily hadn't had any outbreaks so didn't go on the meds for it. He didn't have any active sores and I will went down on him....twice! Want worried about it and luckily didn't catch it. Just remember though even if there's no visible signs you can still catch it, especially during the viral shedding cycle. Like most of the guys here said tho if you do get it they have meds now to stop the outbreak of the sores...but you'll be on em pretty much the rest of your life because it is permanent.