BlackDude

17 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

There's no need for a separate topic on this; way more than half of the posts on this site are by "cumdumps" who post so many stories about how depraved they are - LOOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE - that I wonder how any of them have time to eat or sleep given all the sex they're allegedly having in bookstores, alleys, bathhouses, cars, trucks, vans, churches, homeless shelters, mall restrooms, and the like. They all seem to think it's a right dandy type of life - more power to 'em, I guess - so what problems could they possibly have to handle?

I’m not going to lie, I’ve had my share of fun, but some of these stories seem to be pretty outrageous. It’s like some of these peoples lives are one big 24/7 Treasure Island flick.

I mean, when do these people work? How do they pay bills? They never get caught or catch an STD? I mean I know you don’t give your life story online but some of this stuff wild. 

It’s crazy because some cigarettes don’t bother me, but some of them smell repulsive to me. As usual, it’s probably the guy that would determine my tolerance level 

2 hours ago, ErosWired said:

Your examples merely underscore my point. Of those who benefitted peripherally from slavery, you cite landowners, railroads, insurance companies, banks, and corporations. My comments were about individual citizens who didn’t have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of, which in the rural South of the 1860s was a pretty common description. Nobody denies that slaves suffered, nor that a society built on their backs was reprehensible, but there were people - many people - whose lives had little to do with it, as they were just struggling to get enough to keep the wolf from the door themselves.

Telling history is bait. Nor is it a “predisposition.”  

My point is everyone benefited directly or indirectly. Those who aren’t against it were perfectly fine with the status quo. 

If you think The Civil War was just a big property dispute, and that economics was just some ancillary issue, we can agree to disagree. 

1 hour ago, ErosWired said:

I am surprised that you would subscribe ti something so simplistic as a notion of “The” (singular) cause of the American Civil War. Slavery was unquestionably the malignancy in the American corpus at the time, so badly so that we still haven’t healed from it, but a societal upheaval of such magnitude that it causes individuals with no direct stake in the issues in play to kill their own blood kin speaks to a broader array of passions, motivations, circumstances and individual realities than one single cause.

Bear in mind that there were plenty of white folks in the agrarian south who did not own plantations, or slaves. If they did own land they were just as likely to be dirt farmers out working their own fields, and if they didn’t have the wherewithal to own their own land could easily find themselves sweating in the fields alongside enslaved persons, just getting paid some pittance to do it. Don’t think so? Allow me to introduce you to some of my ancestors.

There is historical record of the response of some white Confederates when asked why they were fighting against Union soldiers who were in the South. Their answer wasn’t “Because you’re trying to free our slaves” - it was “Because you’re down here.” To these people, the proximate, immediate, pressing motivation for war wasn’t the preservation of the slave state, it was stopping an invasion that was killing their people, burning their homes and farms, killing their livestock, and fouling their water.

There were no “good guys” in the Civil War. And although I don’t think it was your intent to minimize the impact of slavery on the war, that’s how it came across. EVERYONE in white society benefited from slavery directly or indirectly. It was not the wealth landowners who fought it the war, it was most of the poor. Simply to preserve a society where whiteness was currency and supreme. 

Slaves were not just used by land owners to pick crops. Their labor and bodies were central to the US economy and infrastructure. Not only were they building roads, railways and buildings, slave owners were insuring slaves. Entire insurance companies and banks were built of slave insurance policies. Banks that turned around and gave loans to white citizens and corporations. 

The medical industry was using blacks (free and enslaved)  for experiments, and making profits. 
 

That doesn’t even get into the psychological benefits of slavery for non-whites. 

2 hours ago, hntnhole said:

This ^ is worthy of a bit of a deeper dive.  As a man who lived in Northern Illinois for most of my life, now living in FL these past dozen+ years, I would hazard that in the South, the racism is far more blunt, obvious, and in-your-face.  However, racism runs deeply and silently in the North as well.  Quietly - as on cat's paws - subtly - like a deep, underground river that all drink from in one way or another.  The shame is so deeply buried that most don't recognize that they're as racist as anyone else.  Northerners would not hesitate to deny their racism, which makes it all the more insidious.  But it's there.

Here in South Florida, it's easy to make a foul face and turn away as a ratty old pickup with the Stars and Bars flying freely rattles by.  That kind of bold hatred doesn't exist in the North, but the subtle, quiet acceptance of White Privilege surely does.  Thanks for your reply, JimInWisc,

Dare I say California is worst than the Midwest.
 

You wouldn’t think so with all of the “diversity,” but a lot of these other minorities from other countries come here and bring their anti-black racism with them. They know racism is ingrained in American culture, and a lot figure hating blacks is the easiest way to assimilate. This is how you get the Geraldo Rivera’s and Dinesh Disusa’s, and Elon Musks.

Equality to them means “treated better than the blacks.” 
 

Speaking of voices, I just seen Jason Statham is coming out with a new movie. Now that’s a sexy ass voice. Just hearing him makes me feel some kinda way. 

50 minutes ago, faggot4play said:

Utah is on a different planet 

Or so they would like us to think….

Funny I just went through Utah, an I couldn’t access this site at all

4 hours ago, topblkmale said:

American and Western European men. The culture no longer promotes male masculinity in any form of media.

Alot of these other cultures are the antithesis of masculinity. Allowing yourself to be colonized, gentrified and genocided at the mere presence of whiteness is beta at best, and suicidal at worst.

There has been studies which have show how many Latin, Arab and Asian men identify as white. Not to mention the anecdotal stories of these other men in the gay community genuflecting at the mere sight of a white man.

Yes, the image of masculinity may be disappearing slowly western culture, but submission of one’s culture is no more masculine.

What Is Critical Race Theory?

And DeSantis has no original ideas or thoughts that resonate with anyone outside of a small echo chamber. Hell, he Barley beat Andrew Gillum.

He’s now put himself in a trick bag, because when/if Trump runs again, he going to whatever base he has. Real recognize real. And when the platinum plated WS credentials on Donald Trump are presented, DeSantis is going to look like the silver plated, attention who’re that he is.  

16 hours ago, pozcommunitybottomtn said:

 I also find that they often don’t like group situations with other black guys and sometimes get competitive, which is annoying at times.

You are 100% correct on this and it goes back to placing value in non-black validation. 
 

Alot of black men feel value being the only accepted black in the social group. Having someone else black in their mind decreases their value. This is why oftentimes if you see a black guy with a white boyfriend, he will guard him like a pit Bull when other black are around. But has no problem with other white men in the sexual or social circle. Real insecurities. 
 

Again, speaking in generalities and based off experience. 

32 minutes ago, NudistBBBLK said:

One of the WORST thing a yt person can do is this, invalidating the experience of POC folk. You do not live our skin color and don’t have a REMOTE idea of our lived experience. To sit there and invalidate it is the height of yt privilege. You have never experienced what we feel waking up in morning and living in this black skin and to come on here and debate this man and many blk men is just so fucking ignorant.

This is EXACTLY what straight folks do to you with your gay experience. I am continuously amazed my how yt gays will invalidate the lived experience of BiPOC folk that aren’t yt yet get in a tizzy when their own experience is invalidated. Yt ppl like you are the true definition of folks who gaslight ppl. 

I don’t take it personal, and I honestly blame a lot of black men for this.

Many gay white men are so used to being worshiped, and having black gay men that lie to them and the rest of the world, they expect you be happy being treated as second class citizen. 
 

Any many of them know alot of gay black men have so much hatered toward black society, they know these gay black men will say, tolerate and defend the most obvious, ridiculous racism. As if they are getting some sort of twisted revenge. 
 

The truth is not a priority. Only maintaining the favor and access of non-black communities. 

57 minutes ago, topblkmale said:

Lots of anti-white racism in the LGBT. Would love to hear your concerns about that.

Anti-white racism? What business, wealth or positions of power do black LGBT people have to practice discriminate against white LGBT people? 

54 minutes ago, ellentonboy said:

Well, I am sorry you feel that way.  I find it interesting that if you read through this entire thread, I would say the majority of forum members do not have issues with race.  I understand your experiences have been different.....that is a shame.

No, me and my friends experiences aren’t feelings. They are factual events.
 

Nor did I say all gays are racist.

What I did say is that most of this “preference” talk is just racism. And the racism in the LGBT community is well documented.

22 minutes ago, ellentonboy said:

I really take issue with a lot that is said with this posting.  Sure, many white men are not interested in having sex with black men.  No question about that.  But I think this post takes it a bit far with "they won't hire black people, support their businesses or agenda, follow them in stores" etc.  Where, exactly, is the data on that, or what caused you to form that opinion?  It has been a very long time since I have seen the words "no blacks" in an online profile, I wouldn't be surprised if complaints might force that profile to be removed or edited.

Personally I don't waste anyone's time, just like I would expect them to show me the same respect.  Your final sentence "it's an ingrained white supremacist belief system" is just that, it's  the belief system of white supremacists, not the majority of white gay men.

My data is based on decades of being black and comparing my experiences with other gay black men.  I don’t need numbers to tell me how me what I know. 
 

And it makes no difference if the “majority” of gays are racist or not, because a lot of the ones who aren’t stand by may not like what they see, but are fine with the status quo.

1 hour ago, hntnhole said:

Thanks for those thoughts, BlackDude.  You're entirely correct, and that is entirely regrettable.  I can almost always take the bright side, or at least the hopeful side of a discussion, but I'm beginning to wonder lately.  You already know how this country was founded, built, and that terrible fault has yet to be ameliorated.  Worse, there are politicians actually defending the depravity of white privilege, and the racists, haters, the whole pot of boiling misery is getting more widespread.  

I'm sorry to know that there are Blacks gay guys that still want to be associated with we pale ones - we don't deserve it.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with dating and ducking interracially. Except when it comes to the point you have to degrade yourself or your self worth is determined by your proximity to non-black men. 

I’ve never preferred guys my age. I grew up in that era where gay guys where clutching their pearls trying to emulate straights.

When I wax younger, older men seemed more upfront and to the point. They seemed to just enjoy the moment more. They could host as well. Plus I’m into body hair, and more older men seemed to have what I liked. 

1. I find Russian or Australian accents hot. 
 

2. I meant no disrespect to the late Gilbert Godfrey. I loved his work and his voice was hilarious. Just not what I want to hear in the bedroom. 

The gay community, both black, non-black and white, do a lot of lying. It’s better guys are truthful in my opinion. 
 

Alot of white guys use the preference argument and limit it to sex. When truth is, they just don’t like black people period. And they don’t want anyone around them to like blacks either. They won’t hire black people, support their businesses or agenda, follow them in stores, and do all the other stuff any other racists would do. And their lying only hurts black gay men more.
 

And alot of gay black men are so desperate for interracial sexual and social access, they will act like this racist stuff doesn’t exist among gays. Their main objective is to be the sole black mascot (or mangido) to a group of non black friends.  They will defend racism in the gay community at any cost. At times, they may be the bit of the joke. And they accept because to them being a second class citizen in a group of non-black friends is better than being treated as equal in a group of black friends. 

Comments like “no blacks” Pierces their very soul, because it calls into question their purpose for being. 

I find it very sad when I see older black gay men struggling. Because, unfortunately, alot of them wasted too much time, money, and resources chasing the dream of interracial sexual and social access. Signing away homes, going on trips they can’t afford, staying in dead end jobs, refusing to network with other blacks. All so they could prove they somehow escaped or graduated blackness. 
 

If more racist white guys were more honest about their feelings, maybe it would save alot of black men time and effort. Alot of this isn’t about sex. It’s an ingrained white supremacist belief system the encompasses all areas of life. 

The Republicans openly say they aren’t doing anything for black people.

The Democrats practice a benign neglect policy against black people.

The republicans are hostile toward black voters.

The democrats bring in groups from other places to neutralize black voters

The Republicans want to erase blacks history

The Democrats want to minimize black history

The Republicans tell blacks people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps

The Democrats give non-black minority groups boot straps

The Republican LGBT community only cares for white gay men

The Democratic LGBT community uses blacks to get benefits for white gay men

I personally advocate for neither party. When I see the agenda, then make my decisions. 

So I  went to this Cumdump I was excited to go to, especially after all this C19, MP, flu etc….

So as I got there and started to get undress, the guys friend who was the host I guess started talking. No lie, his voice sounded like the late Gilbert Godfrey. If he did drag. Completely killed my vibe.

Can a guys voice actually be a turn-off? Or maybe I was just psychologically looking for a reason to tap out. Thoughts? 

9 minutes ago, NWUSHorny said:

but they would happily claim Jefferson Davis.

I’m actually ashamed of both but that’s just me!

That’s a blast from the past. Rent free?

He’s gay. 

I’m not just talking about ABS or public know pigs sitting in Sniffies talking about “let me service” you.