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nospokenword replied to gay87's topic in General Discussion
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nospokenword replied to BBBottomNM's topic in United States: Other: Southwest
I'm interested in reviving this thread. Would be great to have a monthly meet up with fellow barebackers. Especially if we can get some tops to show up.- 23 replies
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Scandinavian countries are thriving under socialism. They are among the happiest countries on Earth. The problem is that the American right wing has conflated socialism with authoritarian communism. They are not the same thing. What happened in the Soviet Union, China, Cuba and other communist countries wasn't Marxist or Socialist. It was an authoritarian regime based on single party rule. What we have today in Scandinavia is a true democracy that makes sure that its citizens are not taken advantage of by corporations. It ensures that its citizens are taken care of. It is a model, not a problem.
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Facts are facts. Just because you describe yourself libertarian, it doesn't mean that you exist in a different world with different facts. What you're describing is feelings. If you were truly a "moderate free-thinker," then you'd do some research and learn that Obama turned around a massive economic downturn caused in large part by a bubble that was caused by Bush's neoliberal economic policy. You would also learn that Trump inherited this good Obama economy and that under Trump, economic inequality has accelerated as the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Until you actually inform yourself, you don't come across as a free-thinker debating seriously.
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Um, without the electoral college, it wouldn't matter how big or small a state is. With a nationwide popular vote, what state that voter lives in wouldn't matter. My vote in California would count equally to a person voting in Wyoming. Which is as it should be.
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The fact is that Obama inherited a massive economic recession because of Bush's disastrous economic policy. Actual economic statistics show that Obama policy saved the economy. These facts aren't up for debate. They are just the facts.
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If you re-read the original post, it the poster said, "One of the first things he did was try to lift the ban on gays serving in the military." Try. The point, which was well made and ignored by you, was that Democrats have proven themselves to be allies whereas the Republicans have proven themselves as enemies. I say this as someone far left of the Democrats. I am not a partisan Democrat, but I have to point out the many errors and lies that the right try to use against the LGBTQIA2+ community. If they go unchecked, then people might not fully understand that Trump and the Republican party are enemies of the LGBTQIA2+ community. If you're LGBTQIA2+ and supporting Trump, you're an enemy to the LGBTQIA2+ community.
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California didn't exist when the constitution was written. The electoral college was developed to give slave states equal representation with free northern states. The result is that people who live in small states have an over weighted vote. This isn't fair or good. We should all have equal representation. There is no reason that a person who lives in Wyoming should have 2.5 times the representation of someone who lives in California. It is unjustifiable.
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I never said he wasn't really the president. I acknowledged that the electoral college is what put Trump into the White House. I said he is not a legitimate leader. I said that he doesn't have the consent of the governed. I said that he never had a mandate to lead. Those things are different than the question of whether or not Trump is the legal occupant of the White House. It is worth noting that there is a clear difference between what is legal and what is right. For a long time, slavery was the law of the land, and the people that broke the law to oppose slavery did the right thing. For a long time, same sex sex was illegal, and the people that broke those unjust laws were right. I could go on and on. My point is that just because Trump is the legal president, it doesn't give him a mandate to govern. If we had a more functional system of government, no person that didn't win the most votes would ever represent us. I mean, it is self-evident. How can someone represent us when the majority of us hate the man?! He can't, and that's why there is a problem.
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The person who gets the most votes wins the popular vote. That's literally what that means. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. Just because you don't like it, it doesn't make it any less true.
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Do you understand what the electoral college is? It is not the same as being democratically elected. Democratically elected means the person with the most votes wins. Clinton received millions more votes than Trump. Because he has only ever governed for his minority of the country, he's never managed to even crack 50% approval. He is an illegitimate president.
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Trump ignored all the safety recommendations because he was afraid they would hurt the economy and his reelection chances. Medical experts say that with better leadership, we could have prevented more than 100,000 deaths to date. When you compare to the leadership of other countries with more component leaders, like New Zealand, Trump's actions are pure evil. Trump ordered the military to use teargas to clear a peaceful crowd so that he could walk across the street for a photo op. The military leader in charge of that said that he regrets his decision to comply with that order. Further, the right of citizens to protest police murder of Black and Brown citizens is more important than property. Further more, it is patently false to say that we left the Paris agreement because countries like China and India weren't part of the Paris climate agreement, because they were and are part of the agreement. Finally, the whole point of the United States is that our government operates with our consent. That means we need democratically elected officials. To say that the popular vote doesn't matter flies in the very spirit of that basic American principle. What gives the right for an unqualified, 6x bankrupt casino owner and reality show host who is deeply unpopular with the majority of Americans to preside over our government? It is a complete sham. He doesn't have a mandate to lead. No president is a legitimate leader if they can't gain the respect and consent of a majority of Americans.
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You are objectively incorrect. President Obama turned around the economy and Trump inherited that from him. Nationalistic statements like American First are short-sighted. That, combined with his launching his campaign by calling Mexicans rapists and drug dealers and that he wanted to close our borders was the first signs on fascism. It isn't just a name that those of us on the left throw around, but linked to the many similarities between Trump and the fascists of the 20th century like Hitler. Trump is a danger not only to Americans, but to the world.
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Um, Trump's ignoring medical and scientific advice about covid is an objective reason to hate him. Trump ignoring of science regarding climate change is an objective reason. Trump's use of teargas to clear innocent protesters is an objective reason. Trump deployment of federal officers without a local invitation to break up protests in Portland and Seattle is an objective reason. Trump's palling around with world dictators while dismissing NATO allies is an objective reason. Also, there is zero proof that Trump is a billionaire. There is a very good chance that he has lied about his self-worth. You say that nobody cared about the electoral college before Trump, but that is also wrong. Trump is the second person to take an electoral college vote while losing the popular vote in the past 20 years, and there has been a growing push to change the rules so that the winner of the popular vote becomes president. It is difficult to accept the leadership of somebody who not only never won a majority of votes, but never manages to crack 50% approval. Finally, I'm a leftist and card-carrying socialist. I did not get my politics from my parents, as my dad is a conservative republican and my mom is a moderate democrat. Regardless, where we derive our politics has nothing to do with the basic concept that a leader should have the consent of the governed, and Trump has never had the consent of a majority of Americans.
