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So yeah, this is gonna be a strong religion rant. I believe wholeheartedly that religion is overwhelmingly the greatest cause of mental trauma, inclusive of all its related negative effects, in the gay community, and possibly some in the straight spectrum as well ever. Taking just Christianity alone, the long term macro effects of fucking up young gay kids' minds are easily visible and predictable just looking at the direct cause and effect on a psychological level. Basically, the general approach most places use for religion has been to just thoughtlessly accept and encourage whole-heartedly the large scale spread of a flawed, completely non evidence-based framework that implements multiple cult-related psychological tools to do several incredibly impactful things in the way people view themselves and society, namely 1) dictate correct accepted behaviors and values for living life 2) significantly influencing an entire society's moral compass 3) creates a system of rules in the way an individual attributes purpose and meaning to their lives (using completely bogus concepts such as the soul and heaven and hell). And tbh if things just stopped there and at a limited degree, religion could be useful for keeping society somewhat orderly, though at the cost of deeply undermining all the individuals' understanding of reality and also undermining their rational thinking with shitty concepts like faith. But no, here's the rub, after dictating such a foundational and integrative basis of viewing the world in each young Christian kid, it then tosses in targeted attacks at the gay community: With the concept of 'sin' it directly tries to shift the perceived cause of homosexuality from what is really a biologically derived heritable trait (or rather a series of quantitative traits to be exact; with limited environmental modifiers) to a sanctionable social behavior that makes the individual the culprit of a condemnable set of behaviours of which he had no choice (because gayness is an inherited biological trait) and in additionfor further spite also saw fit to attach a range of descriptors such as "impure" "ungodly" "unnatural" that poisons the individuals' self identity. If you are a Christian kid brainwashed to believe that religion is the most important thing and must follow its rules and that then discovers he is gay, I feel like you don't need to be a rocket scientist to foresee the road of shame, lowered self worth, depression, dissociation from reality ergo substantial mental trauma. There's a bias that people assume that just because Christianity, and religions in general, are based on morally good values like truth, charity, righteousness etc that the entirety of its effects on a society must also be 'good', and it's sacredly protected from criticism but that's ridiculous. Religion has always been used as a social control tool and the fact that we're still allowing it without any regulation to brainwash significant portions of a population to a completely warped view of reality using several arbitrary guidelines that have not been empirically tested as well as a framework riddled with concepts not based in reality is quite frankly the greatest injustice that we have done and perpetuated for ages to a population's mental health. Honestly, if I had a kid that I suspected may be gay I'd keep him far away from religion. Poisoning a person's view of himself and how he can fit into the world around him may not be something he's even aware of at the time but you don't need to think hard to realize that it can compromise a huge chunk of the rest of his life Fuck religion. Humanity is honestly better off without it, especially if you're gay fyi [think before following links] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Cassady-Pitt/publication/327043826_Shaping_Attitudes_About_Homosexuality_The_Role_of_Religion_and_Cultural_Context/links/5b74d65592851ca65063c61a/Shaping-Attitudes-About-Homosexuality-The-Role-of-Religion-and-Cultural-Context.pdf

Nope, straight guys dont know the first thing about douching and university ones have the shittiest diets (pun intended). But even if mud is inevitable, it's still fucking hot. Love love love straight man ass. I'll eat it out all day every day no hesitation. But then again, I'm a pig and not really huge stickler for requiring my bottoms to douche. Bred my Alberta farmboy fuckbud twice Saturday night and once Sunday morning completely natural. Was awesome, minimal mess and the spontaneity of it was awesome

haha, the devil is in the details man! 😈 It's not about the label or his mentality or where he's positioned exactly on a fluid sexuality scale, speaking strictly on what turns me on, it's simply the act. All those 'straight behaviors' that he's picked up subconsciously ( the look, the walk, the speech, the clothes, etc) those are all purely sufficient to satisfy my fetish. He could very well be gay or a ftm or whatever but as long as he can act out all the right cues legit enough, it's enough to trigger my fetish button. As least for me it is. It's honestly the same thing for any other fetish - eg gerontophilia: based on elderly phenotypes; uniform fetish: purely a clothing related cue; poz chasing: a bit trickier but maybe the biohazard/scorpion tattoo is a cue that plays into the intensity of the fantasy? maybe? So yeah, my point is that it doesn't need to be objectively based in reality, it's just simply perceiving the right cues that triggers a fetish if that makes sense.

Are you still attracted to the same type of guy or has your type changed? If not a particular physical feature, is there anything else that you tend to go for? Has your minimum threshold for agreeing to fuck a guy changed? What do you think is the main force behind your current standards?

Man, that's such a hot concept. I think rather than it being 'purpose' as an attractive factor, it's more like a perceived placement on a male social hierarchy (hierarchy of value as you said). Strangely though, even though I understand the concept of taking a successful man's seed, for me after reflecting on it, maybe it's because I'm wired differently, but generally I actually am more turned on by the reverse. I think I get off more typically speaking on the 'dominating' sensation of topping and breeding a 'successful' straight guy, or even just arranging things into a sexual situation of my design, the more 'alpha' and straightlaced and closeted he is, the more it turns me on. In trying to psychoanalyze myself to understand where this comes from, maybe it is a perceived hierarchy thing. Although I'm doing alright for myself casual sex-wise, I think assessing myself objectively, I'm probably a 5 or 6 out of 10 on an attractiveness scale - not hideous or hot really, but passably fuckable with bonus points based on context and personality. I'm also not at all submissive personality-wise and my liking for bottoming is not linked to an inner craving for that dom-sub dynamic that I think many if not most bottoms tap into. The way I see it is that there are two worlds - the normal everyday world based on the conscious mind (including things like ranking people based on attractiveness, success etc and treating them as such) and then there's the deeper darker world of sex based on our more primal urges (that's more raw and organic and can completely disrupt the rules of the conscious world). So, whether it's because 'successful straight dude' is drunk or high or has low self esteem or is inexperienced or whatever, I def get off on this mental aspect of having him submit - especially if he's face down ass up taking my cock and I don't need to give a shit what kind of facial expression I have on atm. I'm not even one of those guys that go extreme with the humiliation/bullying/cruelty aspect (maybe I'm too Canadian) but there's definitely a connection between social status and how a certain dynamic plays out in some sex scenarios. I think @Phallarchist your model is probably more pure to the straight guy fetish, but I think that, such as with me, there's an element of control here and there's something about 'fucking up the hierarchy' that's a legit turn on that's also part of the fetish. That's why I think @Dubconforlife is really talented at this niche. Aside from just good writing skills, he really gets the power dynamic right (though dialed up for the sake of hot erotica pacing) as well as the appeal of 'fucking up the hierarchy'. If you haven't already, go check out his stories. Having said all that, although @Phallarchist your model is hot, I wouldn't internalize it and I'd probably just try it out as roleplay occasionally and then drop it once the sex is done. I feel like internalizing something like that is a recipe for an inferiority complex which, given that I'm always stressed out and chronically anxious, is the last thing I wanna deal with in my normal life

Oh, didn't realize it was a thing. That's awesome, thanks man. Oh never suffered from acne have you? 🙄 must be nice. Dunno, maybe find a friend who does and just pay him? It was cheap, like under 10 bucks for a 3 month supply

@TwinkChaserSlut yeah, I love his content. As an anon porn connoisseur, he is my favorite. Everything from that perfect camera angle, great video quality, raw sex sounds and just the fuck ton of cum everywhere, it's so well done. If I ever did a uk trip, that would be my perfect vacation! Fuck all the tourist destinations, I'll do all my 'sight-seeing' ass up face down blindfolded and full of British man cum lol Honestly curious if anyone on this site has been on one of his vids.

Ok, so first off, I'm not a medical doctor and I'm not recommending anything. Antibiotic resistance is also a thing and reckless use of antibiotics is not advisable. Having said that, I've been using minocycline (100mg per day; 3 month prescription) for adult acne and I strongly suspect it's been keeping me clean of garden variety bacterial STIs (chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis) just based on probability of population prevalence and number of times I've had sex. I looked it up and oral minocycline at that dose is actually an effective treatment for all three of those bacterial sti's, even syphilis (though only early and like a 2 week period). I'm also on prep and would have caught these every 3 months anyways when I have to renew but I kinda like the idea that I'm not picking these up and spreading them in the interim. The minocycline has a good safety profile and I have to be on them anyway for acne. I just thought I'd mention an observation. Again, not recommending anything but def an unexpected benefit.

Perhaps I wrongly assumed that fantasizing over straight guys was a universally shared experience for gay guys growing up? Because alot of these posts criticizing the straight guy fetish don't quite seem to get the appeal or have somehow lost the ability to relate on a personal level with this fetish. I think for me, it was because I grew up closeted in a small town with an extremely homophobic mindset (murdering exposed gay guys was a very real thing in this neighbourhood) so no sexual outlet and anything gay was kept secret and just pure fantasy. The internet for porn wasn't really an option either so all of my jerk off fantasies were guys I saw on a regular basis like friends from school, friends of my dad, my sister's boyfriend, the gardener, etc and maybe because my young hyperfocusing developing brain was also making a template for attraction, it pulled in all sorts of social cues like how straight guys banter in a group, or how they look when they're trying to impress a girl, of the kind of calm gravitas a mature husband has with his wife. Perhaps this is the basis for my fetish, not at all due to some label or some arbitrary assessment of his cumulative sexual experiences or whatever, but simply that some cues, physical, social or whatever, trigger an image in my head that turns me on. In that regard, is it really a misplaced fantasy? As if to say we had control over what our fantasies are - maybe control over acting on our fantasies, sure, but fantasy is in and of itself borne of the subconscious and trying to attribute fault to such is inconsequential. As for the argument that all this is meaningless and fucking any and all guys is the correct perspective, well, just because you might be an omnivore, does that stop you from having favorite dishes? For that matter, having a fetish isn't something one should be ashamed of having because it's intimately personal and not consciously chosen, any more so than what we find attractive. So, variety is the spice of life and having a straight guy fetish doesn't preclude any other exclusivity (unless you have evidence to suggest so?), nor should it be considered a top-down label-based social construct - the essence of it is simply a set of cues like any other fetish that turn you on.

An "always clean" diet relies on lots of fiber (a fiber supplement is convenient such as Pure for men or psyllium husk/flax capsules etc), avoiding high fat processed foods, lots of water and for me avoiding coffee. It's pretty sustainable and relatively healthy for your digestive system. There are limits to it on its own but it makes douching way easier. I really think that overhosing of your bumhole for a prolonged period isn't good for you though. Who knows what constant stripping of your rectal mucosa can lead to? Probably constant itching of your hole because you've picked up an infection down there and/or hemorrhoid pain from irritating the lining.

@MuscledHorse I agree somewhat with many things you said. First, that sex and promiscuity are natural human behaviors. I'm sex positive as well and agree that sex is something to be enjoyed not demonized. Yes, evolutionary biology suggests that humans likely originally had a promiscuous dynamic back in hunter-gatherer days. It's not until population increased and social units became more focused that constraints on sex became a behavior. However, it's notable that all modern and historic cultures, even primitive aboriginals outside civilization, have some form of sexual constraint behavior (as opposed to demonization of homosexuality which is very variable) which suggests a more universal bottom-up pressure outside of culture, religion etc. As for reasons, who knows?fear of sti's? Social control? Nonetheless, considering the distinction between genetically predisposed unrestrained sex and socially-imposed constraint, who knows what other physiological function is affected by limiting sex? who knows how society could have developed if demonization of promiscuity/homosexuality weren't a thing? Maybe there'd be less loneliness and depression in the world or maybe just better communication in general, dunno. Second, sex is not love but it's certainly not unrelated to what many people perceive love is. Repeated sexual encounters, particularly ejaculation and the few minutes post-coitus, via primarily dopaime, serotonin and oxytocin transmission, leads to the habit-forming neuronal association of pleasure and comfort with the other partner and context, in many the same ways as to how drug addiction occurs. So yeah, many times when we think we're in love, it just means that we've become a dependent addict (withdrawal=why breakups are so hard). It's not unreasonable then that jealousy occurs from a fear of loss, so if I did enter that kind of open relationship there would need to be clear rules like capping repetitions, no cuddling etc. that absolutely could not be broken. I like to think that real love has a social component though that also plays a part and may also be why some couples choose monogamy to focus on developing that form of deeper meaning for their relationship. Otherwise, will there still be love if your sex drive vanishes from dysfunction/old age? Also, can asexual couples fall in love? I'd like to think so at least, in some form or another.

Hahaha, if only! If that was part of the curriculum, I would be an A+ student in that class! Honestly though, douching is not that tedious once you kinda get used to how your bumhole operates. A douching nozzle that connects to the shower that I got off amazon has literally been the best investment of my life. Also, by sustaining a mostly clean diet without coffee and healthy regular bowel movements, the terminal anal cavity is fairly clean and you can make do with maybe a 6 incher or less (nothing too aggressive) with virtually no mess. Really though, the urban design of the human body makes no sense to me - why is the entertainment district placed in the same area as the landfill? So inconvenient. Still, the fact that there are some drama queens out there that act like it's the end of the world in the case of a shitty accident just seems beyond alarmist. Even though the smell canbe a bit stinky, poop is mostly just water and degraded organic matter, nothing crazy. To anyone who has had to change a baby's diapers regularly, this kind of thing is just basically a trivial chore that you just need to deal with and get done, honestly not a big deal. Besides, it seems obvious to me that every single guy who has eventually came to realize that the noble art of buttfucking will comprise a core part of his future life, must realize that at some point or another, shit can and will happen. So it shouldn't exactly be a surprise when it does. Regarding douching or going natural. I think it's context dependent. For your standard planned hookup, there's time to prepare and no one likes to leave a smelly first impression so a clean bum is a standard expectation. In a long term relationship it's different (at least for me), after a while, things become complacent and less high-maintenance. The spontaneity of things like waking up in the morning together with a nice, unplanned fuck to start the day is worth it. Douching is still done for practical reasons periodically when able to but not nearly as rigidly expected for a casual enounter. There are other scenarios where douching isn't an expectation because of practicality such as if you're going camping ( the real type not the suburbanized version). Of if you've ever had a straight friend that spontaneously wanted to try anal one night, you can bet for sure that he's never even heard the word 'douching' before. Would the threat of poo stop you in that situation? Cuz I know for sure when given the very exciting prospect of popping my straight bud's ass cherry, I didn't hesitate at all even knowing that a mess would certainly happen. Of course, a little mess did happen but I had spread up a towel on the bed and it didn't detract at all from what was an incredibly fun and memorable experience.

I completely disagree. I have no problem at all if I get pubes in my mouth even if I'm blowing a guy with a Hagrid-level full on bush . Even if a guy hypothetically has hair everywhere, back, neck, butt, whatever, it's honestly not a big deal and even moreso, I'm turned on because the texture, pattern, details etc. are all a feast for the eyes, made available only because at that moment, you're specially privy of being able to see this guy naked and they're characteristic of him and his body in a very natural state. I honestly think that if you really are in tune with your attraction for a guy, you have an instinctual push to see/touch/taste his body as it's presented in a raw, natural, completely unmodified state. If his hair grosses you out, perhaps you might be imposing your own artificial biases on your attraction for this guy and you might be drawn more to an image than a real person. Really though, robust body hair growth is associated with high androgen levels, a healthy cardiovascular system and healthy skin function. Those all sounds pretty darn sexy to me.

Yes, this is also a huge concern for me. I might be fine with being in an open relationship with a guy that had a similar perspective on sex and I think the core sort of rationale would be that a love-based relationship is separate and apart from just physical sex. I could see it being a little unstable but maybe working out. Some guys can and do make it work after all. But, it really depends on what outcomes you want from a relationship I think and compromising with what's feasible-what exactly has been sacrificed is what leaves me uneasy. So, I'd be lying if I said that I'd be on board 100% and that there wasn't some part of me that wished I could have approached it normally with a great guy and done it properly. What I don't like about a compromise is that it avoids the root problem, namely that cumdumping is a manifestation of our brain's dysfunctional risk-reward system, namely a bad feedback loop of consistent prompts for increasing hits of dopamine (same way a porn addiction pushes you toward increasingly perverted porn topics as it progressively lessens your d2 receptors). I don't think entering and developing a normal relationship would be quite the same as compared to if entered with a healthy risk-reward system, simply because we would perceive the world differently and especially be insensitive to key moments that need you to feel something at the time. Can you really be sure that things like the first kiss will be as emotionally charged and meaningful as it should be? Or will you just feel more of a depression-related monotone caused by overstimulation? I think it's also possible for your brain to do unintended albeit unfortunate things like falling into a sexual mental pattern you might have used with previous casual partners, such as after having sex a few times then lose interest because of the lack of novelty. I mean, you could certainly fake your way through it with enough planning and effort but that's not really doing it properly is it? I may be overthinking this but atm my mindset is that if I decide on doing a relationship properly, I think it makes more sense to first commit to going cold turkey on my fucked up sex lifestyle for a few weeks and give my brain a chance to reset to normal which I think would be difficult but doable.

Love hair on a guy, for either top or bottom. Nothing better than the feel of a nice thick set of man pubes pressed against your bum after full insertion. I'm fine with trimmed but shaved cock is honestly a bit of turn off, not that I'll refuse it, but it's more like thinking, 'oh what a shame, could have been so much more enjoyable.'

A bit of a nerdier answer. I think it's the initial pain/discomfort of that first penetration. Pain is known to cause immediate peripheral vasoconstriction. So, to counter that, immediate counter-measures could be: 1) to use a pde5 inhibitor like viagra/cialis to maintain bloodflow there 2) minimize pain in the butthole by prior stretching/lube/slow entry. 3) At mild intoxicating levels alcohol triggers vasodilation immediately but at higher levels it vasoconstricts (so don't get too drunk) 4) Poppers is a popular vasodilator that also relaxes the ass muscles thereby reducing chance of pain.However, I've found that depending on the type/formulation, it can make you go soft if you have too much 5) turn up the thermostat. Hotter temperatures favor vasodilation and colder temperatures favor vasoconstriction. Yes, the hotter it is the better your boner is Or for a more lifestyle approach to more favor peripheral vasodilation in a more prolonged sustainable way, you could try: 6) regular moderate-vigorous exercise effectively boosts peripheral bloodflow and strengthens cardiac muscles 7) see a doctor to treat any blood pressure dysfunction. Blood pressure regulation and vasodilation are competing systems 8 ) cut out stimulants (yes, including coffee). They are vasoconstrictors and also can cause relevant nutrient depletions if used excessively for a prolonged time period 9) maybe you are deficient in a nutrient involved in endothelial function. This list isn't exhaustive but I've included the more common deficiencies, such as: a) choline; which is metabolized to acetylcholine and competes with norepinephrine at adrenergic sites in your cock epithelial cells (acetylcholine vasodilates, norepinephrine vasoconstricts). Norepinephrine can also be induced by stress, anxiety, depression, various drugs. b) nitrates; nitric oxide is the main signalling molecule for vasodilation. Eat veggies or a supplement (eg L-citrulline) for supply, antioxidants to maintain its stability and dont use mouthwash excessively - your oral microbiome is important in the biosynthesis process c) vitamin d (especially in northern latitudes) - deficiency linked to high blood pressure d) magnesium - deficiency linked to high blood pressure

hmm, alright, I'll try out kik and see. I've never has good experiences with kik though tbh - my impression before I deleted was mostly: extreme closet cases, bunch of catfish, pedophiles and pic collectors. Damn, maybe you're just really lucky, or you got the thiccest most inviting badonkadonk ever or something. I think for me, there was only once irl (excluding online) that I thought a straight guy was taking the initiative to start something and it wasn't even direct but just kinda alot of graphic innuendo (but some terms were dropped that were more on the gay side of pornhub than the straigth side) moreso than the normal university bromance banter while drunk sort of thing back in the day. But I didn't act on it, mainly because I generally am overcautious and tend to overthink things and I got the impression that there was a sort of weird psychological power move component(which some guys do get off on but I've never really understood) that I wasn't completely comfortable with. Maybe it's just my style or my being a bit of a control freak, but I prefer low key chill arrangements that's based more on mutual trust rather than a power dynamic. Very well said.Totally agree with you. I feel like North American society has over the years imposed a very narrow and kinda unfair standard of expected traits and norms on straight guys if they want to consider themselves as a healthy successful sexual man. As you said, the expectation of hypermasculinity is a core component, whether it be bio things like height, muscles, cock size, etc, or learned behaviors/cues like tone of voice, swag, posture, etc. Although androgenic secondary sex traits are I think generally major determinants of attraction in both homo and hetero worlds, I feel like in the gay world there's quite a bit more wiggle room for whatever reason in deciding the minimal fuckability threshold and is not as tightly correlative with androgenicity. whereby in the straight world, maybe perhaps because of the differences in partner number in that girls are expected to choose fewer partners (did you know that the avg # of sex partners/lifetime in the straight world is only 7? appalling right?), I think the constraints of their attraction standards are somehow more impactful? or maybe it's various other influences like media and such that reinforce a certain type of image to strive towards? So, I think the consequence of this is that straight guys further down the spectrum that fall out of this image are not only starved of sex but they may also have competing psychological influences to this image such as a desire for submission, tenderness, sensitivity, warmth or an appreciation of beauty (which tend to be associated as feminine psycho-social influences) which in turn may collectively encourage some to homo curiousity? This is pure speculation. By the way, we gay guys don't fully escape the effects of this image. Even outside the dating circle, I think there's a subconscious bias that links this image with arbitrary things like perceived capability in the workplace or authority in a group setting or trustworthiness to strangers. So interesting to hear confirmation that my suspected tattoo connection could be legit. Maybe the tattoo/alcohol/drugs/casual sex represents a certain mindset? Like one that searches across deviant or edgy behavior to satisfy/escape something? dunno. I wonder what other patterns laid out in plain sight we could be missing

@LustofalltradesYou should absolutely just go for it! Sometimes our inner overperfectionist is the biggest challenge rather just being bold and going for it. I'm a never-ending reader of everything - if text was like food, then I would be the literary equivalent of Jabba the Hutt. Horror/thriller/sci-fi are also definite favorites as well - have you considered blending the dynamics or world of horror/thriller/sci fi with your sex stories rather than keeping them separate? I feel like it'd be more efficient for your brain rather than compartmentalizing it and the components of those genres could fit in really well with a fast-paced sex story (without going all gore and getting in mod trouble). Nonetheless, looking forward to reading whatever you go with! If you're on squirt, you may want to post it there as well and get the 30 day free membership.

@ErosWired haha I think you need a larger sample size to make a better assessment. Man, duffle bag guy reminds me of a type of person here in rural Alberta so much, life full of drama, the world is against them and nothing is ever their fault. However, I feel like there are always gonna be difficult people and a hard line position isn't always practical, so in the pursuit of cock as #1 priority, you may have to flex some 'people skills' every now and then. I bet hypothetically in this scenario, duffle bag guy would have responded better to a negotiation whereby even if he declined which would have implied for him to leave, he would accept it more because it was his choice, rather than forcing his hand. @Lustofalltrades Man, I love how graphic your commentary is. Have you thought about writing a sex story and posting it here? I bet it'd be hot. I think though that if you ever decide to actualize that particular fantasy, just some humble advice from a chronic risk chaser, don't just yolo it and assume reality will play out like porn. Some people can be monstrously cruel, things can happen unexpectedly and tons of things can go wrong in that scenario. So yeah, research thoroughly before, get advice and at least leave yourself a safety margin if shit hits the fan.

@ErosWired Fine, I'll admit it. I was definitely sexually objectifying homeless guys, though not really in the sense of seeing them as a 'lower' or 'undesirable' class. I do try to be a good, empathetic person generally speaking so I'll have to mull this over in my head a bit. It's hard to verbalize the turn on, but for me, being a cumdump is not just about the physical dick-butt-cum aspect (though i like that alot), there's a mental component almost like getting a feel for the person (even with very few cues like smell, voice and hairy legs etc) and his story and his essence and just having a kind of primal experiential thing of being used temporarily, a side bit to his story, and the idea of his cum inside, like collecting a sample of that story. I know this sounds super weird but this is my best attempt to verbalize how fucked up I am. Therefore, for homeless guys, in my head, it'd be like sampling a set of experiences that could be more..gritty? risky? ..different, yeah different for sure as even the novelty on its own makes it appealing. @hntnholeHaha, I have family down there. So who knows, next family wedding/funeral/whatever, you may find me sluttin it up down there some day

Grats

Generally speaking, naked for the standard hookup if there's a bed. But, it's a huge turn on for me with fucking/being fucked by a guy that has a work outfit/uniform on. Favorites have been construction work gear, lawyer-type business suit, FedEx uniform, scrubs and pilot uniform. Would love to hook up with a cop or military guy but unfortunately hasn't happened yet.

@hntnhole Yeah man, even putting aside my own tendency to be shy, I think this is more a cultural thing. Canadians in general are I think a bit more reserved than Americans. I just can't picture that scene panning out unless the situation kinda lent itself toward that kind of thing or the bottom gave prior encouragement or maybe if it was a university crowd or were fans after a hockey game or something. Otherwise, I think the majority would mostly just kinda be chill, possibly up for it, but still mostly reserved. @ErosWired I have zero problem with that - that argument works to my favor after all 😆. Oh fuck that sounds kinda hot. Geez man, I think you just pushed my 'let's see how much more fucked up and slutty you can get.' button. I mean, I think it's happened by accident already but not yet intentionally. Quite a bit more challenging to set up for an anon scenario tbh....but challenge accepted! 😉