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Is Grindr in trouble in the English speaking world: From UK to the US, Grindr's legal troubles is rising because of its practice of putting gay lives and interests at risk for a quick buck. In the UK, Reuters reports that at least 670 people have filed a lawsuit three months ago in the London High Court over the fact that Grindr revealed their HIV Status, and the date of their last HIV test! to commercial third party data hunters; more are expected to join the lawsuit as thousands of gay men have been affected. [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.reuters.com/technology/grindr-facing-uk-lawsuit-over-alleged-data-protection-breaches-2024-04-22/ [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.globallegalpost.com/news/gateley-affiliate-austen-hays-launches-class-action-against-grindr-advised-by-cooley-1983825032 In the US, Monsignor Jeffrey Burrill, who was fired back in 2021 from his senior clerical position in the Catholic Church for being on Grindr has filed a law suit in a court in California alleging "a stunning pattern of [Grindr’s] intentional and reckless failure to protect private data of its customers." Is Grindr finally being held to account for its actions?

If you are a straight guy, horny as hell, with no prior experience of Grindr — An app which tell u how far the nearest booty is more likely to make you reach out for a Quickie rather than one where u go and find 100s of guys in the city: with no idea of who is close by and within 10-15 mts of a real, quick fuck! Geo location makes hookups easy and it should be up to the athletes to decide if they want to use it or not — not Grindr! Advertisers understand the importance of this principle of ease and visibility and that is why will place products near a check out line, so that the products catch shoppers' attention and they end up indulging in an impulse buy. The Olympic village may be saving the soul of a "weak man" who might fall prey to their homosexual impulse or lusts by removing his occasion/situation of sin, but why is Grindr facilitating this disservice to gay athletes? I imagine, if I where a gay Olympian I would definitely be wanting to have a good fuck the day before the big match and would be motivated by knowing I would have a good fuck after the match. I am wondering if they are doing it to avoid any kind of lawsuit by the wife of a 'straight' guy who ends up having a homosexual encounter in the gay village, the wife blaming it on the fact that family members are not allowed in the gay village, a fact confirmed by multiple news articles. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cosmopolitan Technically, only athletes competing in the games are allowed to stay in the Olympic Village—but they can bring their coaches and sport specific team officials around if needed. [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a61647461/olympic-village-rules/ Only athletes, trainers and officials are allowed to room at the Village, though family members and former Olympic athletes are allowed inside with proper checks. Press and media are also barred. [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Village

Isn't the ban of geo-location controlling as well? After all, athletes have the option not to log into Grindr or app or turn of geo-location, should they choose. I am imagining if the guy is on Grindr in the Olympics!, he probably is on Grindr even when he is back in his homophobic country; and every gay man including gay athletes in homophobic countries, unfortunately, has the border and duty to fight the fight against homophobia! homophobia cannot be eliminated by doing away with a gay app or gay bar. Such a line of reasoning is circular, and seeks to blame and eliminate the victim rather than the perpetrator. Whose safety: Is Grindr really worried about the safety of gay athletes or is it more worried about the safety of its profits and intersectionality with the straight world? What I mean by that phrase is, the ability of Grindr to appear "normal" as defined by the heteronormative standards of the society in which it operates. According to multiple news sources, the Olympic village does not allow the family of athletes to stay with them, thus leaving a host of testosterones filled men with urges - cum filled balls desperate to drain it in a hole, any hole if they become desperate. Is fear of homosexual experimentation on part of the Olympians one of the main driving force behind this decision to ban GPS, as geolocation certainly makes a hook up easy: if I know how far the gay guy is, its easy to talk to him and perhaps arrange for a meeting - cum filled encounter of Olympic proportions?

Grindr has decided to make its geolocation services unavailable in the Olympics Village, and ban it for the Olympics currently behind held in Paris. China banned Grindr from its Olympic village in 2022, and oddly Paris has bought into Grindr's claim that the decision was taken to protect gays. Do gay sportsmen need protection from Grindr hookups in the Olympic Village or are they capable of taking care of themselves and have gay fun. Is this decision homophobic? [think before following links] https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/07/23/paris-olympics-grindr-profiles/ [think before following links] https://www.outsports.com/2024/7/23/24098046/grindr-gay-olympic-village-blocked/#:~:text=“Grindr imposed the same restriction,one another while they're Yahoo : Grindr says no peeking!

Thank you for filling me in, on how the indictment/sentencing process work, as I was not sure if the complain document that we are referencing is the official "Indictment" or not. I am curious if fresh charges can be brought up by the prosecutor, if the present charges fail in court: If the judge/jury finds him not guilty of sending 300 files to various people, could the prosecutor then come up with a fresh charges of say, we have evidence that Austin exchanged illegal CSA files two years or knowingly did try to hook up with an underage guy. we are not sure what they are referring to as CSA/underage material. For e.g. it is often tough to gauge the age of a guy. For e.g. i was watching a Channel 4 documentary, where the gay porn star in question, ironically also called Austin, Austin L Young!, says he is proud of playing a little boy and no one can make him feel otherwise. One look at him made me feel uncomfortable coz i honestly feared he was in the 14 to 16 range. Turns out he is 24!! I noticed in the complaint document/Indictment, it is alleged that Austin shared files containing sexual material of a 10 yr old, the age being determined by the filename, which was in Spanish! How would Austin know that as he is most likely not a Spanish speaker? The original source of these files that where sent from Austin's Telegram a/c is also very relevant IMO. If Austin where truly a pedophille, he would have gone searching for these files, have a collection of them and he would be pretty driven by such material as that is the only thing which would give him sexual pleasure. If on the other hand, where these files sent by someone to Austin on his telegram account, which Austin later forwarded possibly to this guy twink TUSer1/FBI Employee1 coz the twink TTUser1 told him he was 18 yrs and 18 weeks old and wanting to have sex with him, — and Austin did not want to miss out on it and just provided to this man(?) twink what he wanted.— the extent of Austin's culpability can definately be questioned. If does not make sense that would a pedophille only have files on his phone and not on his computer. an SD card is the storage on ones phone and and the SD card is where Austin would have received any files from Telegram and this is probably the source of these files. Who sent him these files in the first place, is very relevant IMO. Human sexuality is complex and judging sexual behavior outside of its context leads to erroneous judgements. For e.g., Two guys could be have a good time in the park and suddenly they could become deviants/exhibitionists etc, I think the context and background of an act really make a difference to the situation, and helps determine if something is a crime. Like if two guys deliberately start having sex right in the middle of the park, during a time when there are usually lots of people around, and there are people around - it is clearly they intended to be exhibitionist. However, if two people have sex during the evening time in the bushes and the police cars come raiding with their signs to catch the 'deviants' — I personally am not convinced of their crime. I actually admire guys who stand up for their fetishes. I know for e.g. I am attracted to rougher masculine hairy older guys. I don't know why but i always have. I also have preferred anonymous sex. Let us say i live in a culture where homosexuality is [banned word], and as a porn star i film scenes in a local park. it wont take long for the authorities to claim i have defamed the park, the city, coz i shot a sexual movie - a porn movie in their park. My point is, Austin could have become a victim just because of his particular tastes for younger men and was on the watch list of some people. The day you make a political statement like the one Austin did, about black rights in America, you will become a target. : "White privilege is real. I'm fully aware of what it is and what it means....................I know I have a head start in life. I'm 6'4, 265 lbs, and I'm white. It doesn't get much easier than that." I simply am not convinced that Austin is a "pedophille".

Since Austin ran a Telegram channel linked on one of his websites with over 12,000 subscribers according to a yahoo report, it is quite premature to assume that any of the CP came from Austin and not from any of the 12,000 telegram followers of his or from that wonderful gentelmanboy TT User-1. [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.yahoo.com/news/adult-film-star-austin-wolf-232316910.html I personally find it hard to believe that such a successful gay porn star can suddenly fall to such depravity and become a pedophile overnight in 4 days - March 24 to 28th, as alleged in the complain. A number of scenarios could explain the situation. TT User1 could have told Austin he was a 18.5 yr old man and got his attention, only to send him CP in a bit to trap him. Another scenario, which is very much a possibility is a disgruntled employee/rival porn star of Austin's porn business could have hacked his Telegram channel and send out CP and exchanged messages with TT User 1/FBI Employee 1. Austin could very well be the first target of Project 2025. I want to start a poll to find out how many people think Austin is guilty. The options that I propose are. 1. Austin is innocent until proven guilty. I am not convinced of the charges based on the evidence, yet. 2. things look pretty bad for Austin. Given the facts, I am convinced Austin is guilty of exchanging child porn. 3. I want to hear Austin's side of the story. 4. Other Please let me know if you want any other options .

There is often another side to an allegation/story and one should make up one's mind only after hearing both sides. Austin claims in an interview to the Instinct Magazine that the guy knew he was filming the act: It was the other guy's idea to have sex on flight, in the first place; and he had a large phone in his hand and openly recording their sexual encounter and thus had the guy's consent! Does this equal consent to post it online, I guess the jury is still out. [think before following links] https://instinctmagazine.com/exclusive-an-interview-with-austin-wolf/?utm_source=cocktailsandcocktalk.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pubexchange Consent in real life is a complicated topic which needs a different thread altogether; but I am still trying to find out Austin's side of the story, as well, on the disturbing child porn allegations.

I want to add, that it does seem most people seem to have made up his mind that the accused, Austin Wolf IS guilty. I would recommend, waiting for more details & facts in the case to show up, before making up one's mind. For all that it is worth, here are facts of the case that seem odd to me. I noticed something from the news articles and indictment that only one SD Card was found as evidence. People who are of such a temperament( pedophilles) are usually quite driven in their (criminal) pursuit and tend to make a fair bit of mistakes, i.e. have images all over their PC, and other places where they could easily get caught as they are quite driven by this illegal pursuit — which doesn't seem to be the case with Austin. Also this one SD card was apparently found in late April, why is this making to the news 2 months later. that seems like an awful lot of time by the concerned authorities to allow the criminal to carry on with his alleged criminal tendencies. Could it be that he was/is being blackmailed by someone who planted this evidence against him for any number of reasons including, revenge, jilted lover, co-porn star rivalry, porn industry hatred etc. Since the police has been on this case for at least 2 months more, how is it that they haven't found anymore evidence. Seems odd. if this guy was truly a pedophille as is alleged, he definitely would be back trying to look for such material and would actually have a pattern of such behavior. Based on the media report from gay times, Austin received hundreds of images from a guy called 'TT User 1' who he had also met in person. Is is truly possible that someone would receive hundreds of images from someone online but not when they meet in person? Thus, does this SD card belong to Austin or this other gentleman who seems to be rather close to Austin, given that he not only knows Austin's travel plans but also where he lives, but also what is on his computer! Who is this TTUser1: a jilted lover, a crazy guy who wants to frame Austin because he cannot have him fully? What is the age of this "guy" who sent these images to Austin. Is Austin the guilty party here or this other gentleman, whom the FBI was investigating in the first place. Why are details about this other guy, TTUser1, not being released by the police since he clearly committed a crime — the real crime — by sending Austin illegal material. Anyone can send anyone illegal material, if you are online. Are the powers that be in the United States trying to "punish" a gay porn star who likes younger men, because of a mistaken belief that men(and women) become gay because they are introduced to that lifestyle (called propaganda in Russian terminology) by adults. Thus a younger individual chooses the gay lifestyle not because he wants to have gay sex but because an adult influences him into it. Is Austin facing prejudice because he is seen as a gay Influencer: someone who influences younger men into pursing the gay lifestyle/option.? Austin Wolf definitely seemed to like younger thinner men. anywhere between 18 to 22 or 25 I would say. We all have our preferences and men who prefer younger men should not be villainized. Pedophilias is one of the worst crimes that exists; however, falsely convicting an innocent man of it, is an equally heinous crime. The case against Austin Wolf should be thoroughly investigated so that no prejudice against him, is allowed to influence the verdict and truth of the case. ================================================================================================= [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.pride.com/gay-news/austin-wolfs-arrest-industry-reacts#rebelltitem5 [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/adult-film-actor-justin-heath-smith-aka-austin-wolf-charged-distribution-child [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.gaytimes.com/life/porn-star-austin-wolf-arrested-and-charged-with-distributing-child-sex-abuse-material/

I am going to offer my two cents to this lively discussion. It is very brave of anyone who chooses to participate in this discussion, as it can get heated (rough) very easily, but that is the beauty of bare discussion on very important topics. Big Pharma definitely has a reason to invent viruses. First of all they are sitting on pile loads of cash: corporates in the world are the richest they have ever been; the middle class is the poorest it has been and the poor - well as the Church can testify- the poor ye always have with you. So there are some very wealthy, bored and power hungry guys (and gals) who wish to experiment with things and have a motive to indulge in such Nazi activities. Population control (usually directed towards the poor) has always been a fantasy with certain developmental Nazis who think the world's poverty problem can be solved with population control. Oddly though, they never seem to think that abortion and contraceptives might be a much better way to achieve that goal in a few generations, rather than going around killing people in pandemics. These are the two main reasons I think man made viruses are definitely within the realm of possibility.

The guy is not a fiiiinee gentlemen but nonetheless Alexander Louie is a human being who deserves the benefit of doubt, and the protection of and equal treatment under law. Age of consent depends on where you live: in Brazil it's 14, in Idaho it's 18 and in Bahrain you must be 21 to have sex, if you are unmarried! If this person broke the law he deserves to be punished, but the police should not be creating incentives and trapping individuals in such experiments, which is what happened in his case. In law, entrapment has repeatedly proven to be unlawful, and it is wrong and immoral, as well. People in small towns talk, but they only talk when gay people or non whites have sex. The moral panics only occur when black men are feared to be having sex with white women — lynching in the deep south, or oriental i.e. Chinese women are having sex with white christian men — the Page Act of 1875. These towns in the United States are built over the dead bodies of native Americans - derisively referred to as Indians by the conquering Anglo Saxon race. IMO, people who lives in glass houses and whose morality is so suspect should not be throwing stones at other people. I don't believe fucking too many people in a town is a crime or wrong, and does not prove that something wrong with the individual. If anything, it just proves that the town is filled with horny folks!, oh who like to talk as well 🙂

Medicine is one of the most difficult professions on earth, IMO, especially if you a surgeon coz you are dealing with someone's life. In an hour someone could be here or no more. I must confess, two dicks for someone who hasn't had even one - all his life - would be a bit too much for anyone. However, I am not convinced he did not want to try it. Only when you try something do u get to know how you really feel about it. He could be straight and bored and unhappy with life and have wanted to try a gay threesome. It is definitely within the realm of possibility as I could see myself being unhappy and lonely in a location and wanting to make friends and end up with females who might end up trying to bed me. Regretting one's sexual activity is fairly common but crying several times a day over it, with those who he sinned with, seems unusual. Do you think he might feel better if he tries a threesome where he is one of the Top?

One can not lie about ones HIV status, simply because at no point can one know for sure if one is HIV poz or not, unless you are not having casual sex and none of the risk factors (recent blood transfusion, intravenous drug use etc) apply to you. What constitutes "truth" during a casual sexual encounter is different from standards you would use while filling out a job or medical questionnaire. A Top can claim to be a power bottom, a 55 yr old guy can claim to be "young", or a fat guy can claim to be an average or athletic guy without fearing the long arm of the law coming after them, simply because there is a different standard of truth or rather honesty (disclosure of personal information) when it comes to casual sex. People who have casual sex, can only be confident upto 60% that they are neg, because any one sexual encounter can leave you infected. PREP effectiveness is somewhere between 60 to 93% according to a preeminent health journal Lancet, which does research work with real life conditions, and about 87% according to a British Study. Also PREP is not entirely risk free and some people, albeit a few, will not be able to use it safely, even though for the most part, the benefits of using PrEP is far greater than not using it. [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(22)00106-2/fulltext [think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.gov.uk/government/news/landmark-study-confirms-effectiveness-of-prep Thus, you can still get HIV inspite of using Prep anywhere between 7 to 40%. I am not condoning the purported actions of this individual. However, there are a lot of questions to be answered in the cases here. Firstly, how did the police come to the conclusion that the gentleman in question intended to spread HIV? Not taking ones medication i.e. PrEP can be due to a variety of factors including depression, costs, or a lack of medical information about PrEP. No one is required by law to take PrEP if they are HIV and having casual sex, simply because — u can be taking PrEP and still end up getting infected. As far as the second charge against the gay-gentleman, time and again entrapment laws have been found to be illegal and immoral in most jurisdictions. The job of the police is not to conduct experiments to see if people will commit crimes, under inducement, but to actually prevent a crime that has begun or going to begin without their encouragement!, or stop one that is already underway. From the articles, I have read about this guy, seems like the police set up this guy up, which is illegal. They could have chosen to put him under surveillance and if found of a crime such as rape or sex with a minor, he could have been lawfully arrested but that is not what happened. Instead, he was set up: Entrapment is illegal and so even the second charge will be dropped in a truly functioning court of law. The big question here is, why are the police going after this guy? I looked up at the prosecuting office, Ada county in Idaho, and its demographic is unusually skewed towards one race, which is about 90% of the population, according to the 2010 census as posted on Wikipedia - Idaho Demographics . I took a look at the picture of the alleged criminal, Alexander Louie, and asked myself, would the whites of Idaho consider this guy White or hispanic/interacial/asiatic etc. How has the demographics of this city changed. Is there a rising non white population, and is there social anxiety/hostility over this changing population of their town/city. Is this guy being targeted due to any possible prejudice?

I was surprised that I couldn't access our beloved site breeding Zone, in India even though commercial sites like barebackrRT - which has a picture of two guys fucking on its login page - are allowed. I have been trying to figure out what would make the Indian authorities spare barebackRT but not breeding Zone. I could only think of two reasons. There are some differences between the two sites. The former is a commercial site, which means some very powerful and wealthy investors, like the gay 1% might be behind barebackrt or at the least some conservative closeted Chinese investor who wants to make sure gays have gay sex but don't talk about it/discuss it/flaunt it etc. coz then the gays might start making social demands which would harm social harmony and social order. Conservatives might consider breeding Zone with its leanings towards free discussion as subversive, and in present day USA 'liberal' - and thus bad. The only other reason I could think of is race/skin colour/physical features. BarebackRT on its login page usually does have pictures of men fucking and, for the most part, this site does as well. However, the only difference I have observed now when i think about it is that, I do not remember seeing any non white images on the barebackrt login page, at least for the past 10 yrs that I have used that site, and they always only have white male images on their login page. No such things as non whites gay: Asians, blacks, Arabs, Indians etc. fucking, for them. However, on the pages of breeding Zone there are usually a couple of advertisement of porn sites with images of men fucking and I would say that non white porn actors esp. black porn stars are featured regularly. I haven't seen that many Asians, native Americans or Arabs etc., or if there are, most of them just blend in with the other white porn actors. It would be a fair thing to say that the porn actors featured in the advertisements on breeding zone are not always white but the models on barebackt are always white. As far as access to other gay media: A lot of gay porn is accessible as well, and only one or two well know porn brands are banned. On my phone, I could access apps like Gr--dr and Scr--f. ( I am avoiding mentioning names of the popular GPS based gay mobile apps, but most guys should be able to figure out who I am talking about. Feel free to message me if you are unsure) So, the question is Why does the Indian government fear this site, but not gay porn, hookup sites or gay mobile apps . Does it have to do with money(corruption) or some kind of data collection - the other sites have access to your data such as IP address, physically identifying information, etc, and in some cases credit card info. ? Or is there some other reason that I am not in the loop about?

I just got myself a copy of the book, but am not super thrilled by the name of the author: Robert Kennedy is a vaccine denier which to me sounds like a nutbar as everyone in the modern world has had vaccines: polio, measles, malaria, flu shot. The principles are basic modern medicine and not that complicated to grasp. My understanding of guys like Robert Kennedy is that they come up with theories that sound smart but are just plain BS. For e.g.: strike fear about medical surgeries, even though doctors have been doing it for at least 100 to 300 years now: Do u really need a heart replacement, do u really need this medical treatment and that treatment;, there is someone out there who is making money of it , therefore u don't need it; Surgeries are dangerous coz someone is cutting you up etc In times of uncertainties like war or pandemics, since people are scared they are likely to fall for such scam-ish ideas. I am going to read the book, before I offer an opinion on Dr. Fauci and the book!

The big problem with Protestant-ism fundamentally is that any pastor can steer(manufacture, make ) "theology" of his "church" in the direction he wishes to. There is no need to go back to historical practices and beliefs and faith of the Church. He can pick up a verse in his Bible, the true bible of course being a 16th century English translation (butchery?) and not the original Bible of the 1st century Greek and Latin, and declare it as the "gospel". Donald Trump is the modern day Henry VIII of England and Hitler of Germany. Unless we understand the fundamental flaws of Protestantism, the world is going to continue to see such characters...

India, make no porn usually, and officially does not watch porn. Yet porn is still available there; and the country's rape and gangrape crisis, and issues with the status of women is well know. Denying sexuality isn't such a smart solution to the age old problem of human sexuality: India is a prime example of it!

The United States had this debate a while ago, during its formation as an economic super powerhouse: In the 1950s to 70s; and decided that it was going to allow for sexual freedoms — Playboy and the billion dollar pornographic industry are proof of it. The US invented mass and commercial pornography; and it is part and parcel of US culture, media, and ethos. The 1973 judgments: Miller vs California and the lesser known Paris Adult Theatre I v. Slato, transformed the legal status of sexuality and made it more acceptable to be sexual, atleast for hetrosexuals. Thus, the 'sex industry' ie porongraphic industry has been part and parcel of US society and culture, pretty much like evangelical Christianity. Taking that away would suddenly leave a big cultural void in the US, that simply cannot be filled. It is almost trying to be someone else/another country etc. The sex industry i.e. pornography is just like any other industry, and goes through its lean and high phases. The golden age of pornography is thought to be between the mid 60s to 80s when porn was considered chic. The invention of the Internet saw the rise of another wave of pornography, with a different feel. The market perhaps, is saturated at the moment and is taking a breather. All those noisy politicians who speak against sexuality and porn, like Speaker Johnson usually have to have a psychotherapist or a psychopathic relationship with their priest or someone else - in his case his son - to keep them from porn. Human beings are human beings and eventually the truth of our existence catches up. Human beings are sexual beings and the sex/porn industry serves that need. It is the shame regarding sexuality has to GO, not the porn industry.

I went with "God given", since space is limited in a poll line even though I must confess, I do not regret the use of the phrase. I would have preferred, the classical: 'gift of the gods', a term that has unfortunately become rare in English, because of WASP cultural influence, that often looks down upon the idea of gods as 'heathen' and the idea of one God as better and superior. The advantage of ascribing sexuality as a gift from the gods rather than a God is that, gods, unlike God, are more fluid; they can exist or not exist, they can be in the Universe or outside of it — it conveniently describes all the phenomena we experience but cannot explain. Sexuality as a gift from the gods could mean many things: I am grateful to have had sex, I am having sex coz the gods made me horny, I had sex coz the gods made the sun shine brightly and turned me into a sexual pig , I feel horny coz the moon was three quarters, last night. Sexuality that comes from something other than God or gods, could just be like dry or rough fucking — depending on one's perspective; and if you prefer that — that is perfectly fine as well. Again, apologize if your atheistic/agnostic or any other beliefs where hurt with my choice of words. I am getting better at these polls and hopefully will be able to figure out the right combo soon!

"Isn't this baby just beautiful" Who say that about themselves??

In many parts of the world, the primary Torture center for a homosexual tends to be his family: demands of marriage to produce children; demands of homosexual invisibility to protect family reputation, honor; demand to follow religious prescriptions against homosexual sex; refusal to recognize the gay significant other as a spouse etc. Given that Western societies especially the United States tends to be for more individual centric, how much of the "Family" do you think was — and is — responsible for the homophobia that gay men suffer from?

Dear Scorpio FF First of all, thank you so much for taking the time to read my thoughts and views seriously and taking the time to understand them, and enjoy them! I truly appreciate it, and I hope you will ask me the questions that u had in mind and not hold my 'response' against me, after I explain a bit. I am not a native English speaker and often speak languages other than English and end up making the mistakes that unfortunately is common among non native-English speakers. While I tend to express my thoughts, fairly legibly, when put in some effort; I tend to be terrible at expressing my feelings, often making grammatical and punctuation mistakes, with comical mistakes or end up coming across as harsh as cruel. My earlier response in the same post would testify to my poor English skills ( I am someone who escape from Asia, and neighbor! seems to know time it is time for you (U) to 'get you married, In most India or China, gay men do live under socially etc. ) I apologies if my word have hurt you, and I did not mean to suggest that you are a person devoid of empathy, when what I really wanted to say was that you where not being sympathetic to woke issues I went and re-read what I wrote, and: in response to your question, I answered saying, you where devoid of empathy i.e. to say, you where not understanding the woke philosophy and ideology. I can see how you could have misunderstood what I wrote as an attack, as usually, in present day US terminology and usage, calling a man 'devoid of empathy' is equal to calling him a godless heathen who does not understand the secular religion of compassion and understanding — not of individuals but of causes: social, political etc. I was hoping my response would come across as sharp ( sharp rebuttal - not a sharp rebuke!) but definitely not spiteful and am saddened that it has been received as such. I am sure you would not have had a stress response to what i had said had we been taking in person; the internet and the written text can sometimes be inferior mediums for communicating feelings as it is entirely through words. This particular miscommunication incident, has made me realize the importance of the ability to save a Draft on this site. I wrote, what i did, and hit send late at night and i think being able to save a Draft, will help us, write with a bit more more of thought to possible misunderstandings.

Absolutely. The East or West are just constructs, and even when we employ them to understand the world, the fact is we are all one human race horny race. There are lots of great things about the West, and as you rightly say the most important thing being sexual freedoms and LGBTQ rights. Gay men in many parts of Asia, East Europe and Africa live under terrible oppression of various shades! I am someone who escape from Asia to search for a freer gay life, and can personally attest for it. In Asia, every family member — and neighbor! seems to know time it is time for you (U) to 'get you married'( marriage of course only being to the opposite sex). In most India or China, gay men do live under socially oppressive structures and climates. While I have seen conservative parts of the West as well, I think the difference between the East and West is in the West, both the conservative and liberal parts have learnt to co-exist. On my way to mass I see a lot of openly gay, men and a newly opened rainbow restaurant. The Church does not feel the need to hunt gays anymore, or the gay to harm to the church. Sadly, the community in Asia hasn't evolved to let gays live in peace and thrive.

"Woke" as a term is used in Black Vernacular English to refers to the state of being conscious of race-based injustices and taking actions, especially political and social, and creating awareness about them. Woke in proper English would – roughly and perhaps awkwardly – be translated as: Awakened. Like the Buddhist Enlightenment, a person who learns about the true nature of the Maya of the material world through Buddhism, and becomes Enlightened; an Awakened i.e. Woke person learns about the social injustices in the world, and works towards correcting them. Fortunately or Unfortunately, since English is such a new language which doesn't have the pedigree of ancient languages like Chinese, Indian, Latin, Greek etc., new words can very easily be incorporated into it. A lot of time inaccurate usages of vernacular English( Chinese English, Black English, Hispanic i.e. a Spanish speaker's English), enters Standard English and becomes "acceptable usage", even if it grammatically incorrect or wrong/poor English. Words like Maya and Yoga, which are Indian in origin are now routinely used in English and grammatically incorrect phrases like say, "Say What" becomes recognized and part of some kind of Standard English i.e. acceptable usage. If you honestly read what you quoted, "....what I did with my husband each morning. I woke him" you will see a very real life examples of wokeness!. A man referring to another man as his husband, would have been considered inaccurate and wrong English and is one of the "woke changes" that anti-woke folks object to. In right-wing usage, the term "Woke" is ascribed to anyone, who brings up an issue of injustice against their non white-male group. Thus, blacks, women, gays, people of color, people with any disability, poorer classes in very rare usage etc., who complain or talk about their issues are considered having gone "woke" i.e. rogue against the White State, which is considered as the de-facto protector of white-"christian" norms and "civilization". Whites are not the only men hold such an exalted opinion of their culture; other races often do hold nationalistic and parochial views. For e.g. the Chinese and Indians are very proud of the Asian origins of civilization and often find it strange that Europeans lay claims to civilization, considering Asiatic cultures built civilizations for millennium before white Europeans made any recognizable contribution to it. What differentiates the Whites from the Eurasians IMO is the White Christian insistence that only their civilization and christian god, who they also assume to be some kind of WASP person, is the only civilization that has a right to exist – in contrast to the ancient civilization of the world lived in peace with each other. To answer your question: yes, you are devoid of empathy coz you seem to join the anti -woke brigade, who rarely have an intelligent objection to woke causes and their only complain to Wokeness is that it takes away from their existing "privileges". The world is truly oppressed by whiteness and only wokeness can secure our rights. Just as abortion ie reproductive rights of women disappeared from the legislative books of the United States, so can protections of gay men....

Thank you so much for the clarification, Viking. 🌹 Like the ancient god, Thor, you always bring clarity to the situation.🫂 I am going working on my story then and will try to post it, soon. My stories are not likely to include HIV, because it would super-complicate the plot and undermine the homophobia that I would like to focus the story on.

The answer to the question, would largely depend on when the bottom expressed his wishes. Did he state so before the sexual act or in the midst of coitus. If he stated so before the sex act, there should be a reasonable expectation that his wishes be respected. However, if he stated so, only after the sex act had begun, I am not sure how much can the Top be held guilty of the "crime". After all it depends on how much you are used to "withholding" If you are a devout religious man you probably would have been aware of the Official Gazette of the Church - 1952, which did clarify that the amplexum reservatum aka "Reserved Embrace" i.e. having sex but choosing not to ejaculate in one's partner was acceptable, and thus practiced it; you have restrain and know how to put it in practice in real life. However, if you are a non religious Top or someone who doesn't take religious doctrines from the early 50s seriously, can you really be blamed for a lack of restrain? I don't wish to suggest that Tops should never stop. Clearly, there are always instances when we have to stop in life and that applies to sex even in sex: Say, the bottom or even the top for that matter is feeling unwell, or the partner of a cheating bottom marches right into the bathhouse where his other half is enjoying life – would normally bring the sex to a halt. Choosing to bareback and then telling a Top not to cum in your ass, once the sex act has begun or at least is in swing half way is inconsiderate, unthoughtful, and micro-managing things. Do i think the Top should try to stop: Yes. Do I think he can or should be held liable in a court of law for not stopping, on charges such as rape or sexual assault - Nope. Good sex involves good boundaries between both the Top and bottom.