Poz Guys - What Would You Do If You Were Neg?

[rawTOP]

This is just for poz guys... Wondering what you'd do if you were neg...

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I'm bumping this thread. I had set the poll to close too quickly and sorta want to see what the results are if more guys respond...

[PhoenixGeoff]

It's kind of a shame that we can't do more complicated polls: see some crosstabs. For instance, I'd very much like to see if people's attitudes are any different if they've converted recently vs. converted 20 years ago.

I know HIV has cut some time from my life expectancy. But I think the amount of time you lose is partly dependent on how old you are when you convert. Guys who convert at 20 may have a shorter life expectancy than those who convert at 50. After all, if you convert at 50, you only spend 25 years living with HIV to reach a normal life expectancy. If you convert at 20, you would have to live with HIV for 55 years. That's an incredibly long time to make it, even with new meds (and new classes of meds) coming out fairly routinely.

But this also means that there's a diminishing risk associated with contracting HIV as you age. If I contract HIV at 20 and only live for 20 more years, I die right in the prime of life. If I contract HIV at 50 and live 20 more years, that's really not so bad.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is that the older I get, the less and less likely I'd be to worry about converting.

All of that being said, converting has changed me in ways both subtle and gross. If I were offered the ability to change my past so that I had never been infected, I'm not sure I'd take that opportunity; I wouldn't be the man I am today. All in all, I rather like myself as I am.

[rawTOP]

It's kind of a shame that we can't do more complicated polls: see some crosstabs. For instance, I'd very much like to see if people's attitudes are any different if they've converted recently vs. converted 20 years ago.

I know HIV has cut some time from my life expectancy. But I think the amount of time you lose is partly dependent on how old you are when you convert. Guys who convert at 20 may have a shorter life expectancy than those who convert at 50. After all, if you convert at 50, you only spend 25 years living with HIV to reach a normal life expectancy. If you convert at 20, you would have to live with HIV for 55 years. That's an incredibly long time to make it, even with new meds (and new classes of meds) coming out fairly routinely.

I agree that converting recently vs a while ago would probably make a difference. But age doesn't work the way you think it does. HIV is apparently more mild when you're young and your body is working at peak efficiency. So if you convert at 50 you won't live as many years as someone who converts at 20. And the number is substantially higher than 25 years now and it continues to ciimb.

Still, I think it's fascinating so few poz guys would try hard to stay neg if they had it to do all over again... Speaks volumes. That is really the major obstacle "safe sex" advocates are up against. Back in the 80s and early 90s most poz guys would have done anything to go back to being neg. Now, not so much. You can't really be effective at preaching condom use when the guys who became poz aren't all that upset they're poz.

[untitledbb]

If I were still negative, I'd try very hard to stay that way. Bareback was something that I only did with my current partners after we had been together for awhile and tested together. My conversion was by a poz guy my current partner and I played safe with that was using a condom, pulled out and pulled it off, shoved back in and came. People that think it's just popping a daily pill haven't had a doctor pretty much shut down trying to figure out what's wrong and just blame everything on the HIV. I've been through a couple of health episodes that had nothing to do with HIV, but I've had to go to a couple of different doctors to try and get one that can look past that and actually diagnose the real problem. My family doctor is good about it, but when something requires a specialist, that's where things can get dicey. Lord knows that affect the drugs are going to have after a decade or two on them.

As a neg guy, I never trusted serosorting from the negative side. Now that my profiles all say I'm poz, I get a lot of hits from guys who's ad says Neg but their first email me says "Poz here". Guys will lie for a piece of tail. Always have, always will.

Now that I am poz, I embrace it. I enjoy bareback sex and haven't fucked with a condom for a long time. (Well, last year at Southern Decadence, some guy did Top me with one at a party, but his partner and I fucked raw.) I love the feeling of exchanging bodily fluid, of holding a guys load inside of me for a few hours or having several guys load me in a row so that I'm overflowing. I also love blasting my load as deep as I can into another guys hole, filling him up with my seed.

My two cents...

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untitledbb - I see that's your first post. Welcome to Breeding Zone and thanks for sharing...

[Poz.Guy]

I voted that I'd try hard to stay neg, just because there is still such discrimination of poz guys and mostly from the gay community. I agree with the above poster about the amount of people that claim to be neg in their profiles but the minute you disclose or they see that you're poz in your profile, then they come out of the woodwork.

Its also a practice of many guys to just not put anything in their profiles on sites like Adam and MH. I can fully understand that as there is a need to protect your job or other aspects of your life, especially if you are in a very conservative environment.

[NCPOZTOP]

If I had to choose between being NEG and POZ, I'd choose to be NEG, but I wouldn't change anything that I've done to make that choice. I guess I just wish that I had been luckier.

Actually, if I had it to do all over again, I'd have played it LESS safe. I used to be so picky about who I fucked because I was afraid of HIV. I wouldn't fuck guys that were too thin, or too old, or too eager because the old myths as I was growing up was that that's how you got it. From 16-21, I only fucked 4 guys, and I could have fucked a lot more, but I was too scared. I never used condoms, but I thought I was protecting myself by being selective.

After that I started fucking around a lot more after hearing constantly that bare tops have about the same risk as safe bottoms, and I must have fucked 100 guys between 2001-2006 and didn't convert until sometime in 2007 or 2008 when I was in a relationship and considerably less active.

IF I was a bottom, I'm not sure what I would've done. As a top, I can't get hard with a rubber, so they've never been an option.

[KYcumdump68]

I'd choose neg but over negative i'd choose riding that next cock in the gang fuck with out asking status, which is how i got poz'd 2 gang fucks someone was poz

dont ask dont tell never ever pull out...next

[pozpopperpig]

I would be the cum slut that I have always been and always will be, taking loads. Let the chips fall, again, where they may.

[thick]

I have no outward appearances of being poz. no humps, no belly, no sunken face, no pastey skin color, no thinning hair. EXCEPT I have neuropathy. It is not painful, thank god, most foot neuropathy is painful. I just have two numb feet from the mid shins down. This causes me to walk funny, a limp-like gait. I would if I was neg, try like hell to never get poz. I used to dance and jog and now I cant. I do enjoy all the BB sex I get. nothing like sticking my raw dick in an ass!

[RedPhillip]

I've been poz likely since before 1983, and definitely since 1985. Apart from the earliest period after finding out -- even through the worst times of friends, lovers, and a husband dieing -- I've never regretted becoming positive. If I could dial back time and be negative again, I think I'd fall into the category of doing what I want and letting the chips fall. I've often said that the best thing about being poz is not having to worry any more about catching HIV. I've seen and been through enough to not purposely seek out getting pozzed, but I think I would follow my preference for giving and taking loads bare.

[wammt]

I would try harder to stay Neg; although it would have been very hard for me.

[cboycam]

I would just fuck around with the same guys and get pozzed again

[tin]

I'd try and stay neg. Outside of relationships, I usually played safe - it was only once I had a steady BF that I started to regularly bareback with him. We had a few 3ways, and ended up not always being the most strict about using condoms - and ended up getting HIV that way. It's not even often that we have had 3ways either - even when we go to the bath house, we stick to ourselves 99% of the time (I just like the environment, not always on the prowl for others).

Even now that I'm poz, I'm reluctant to BB outside of our relationship - there are other STDs I simply dont want to deal with : Gonorrhea, Chlamydia, Syphilis - and those are the treatable ones, it's just a pain in the ass. I would also rather avoid getting Hep-C.