discjuian Posted November 11, 2010 Report Posted November 11, 2010 ^^^Some true words ar being said here. BTW, I think Bel Ami got it right with their BB films, nice slogan as well: No Inhibitions, No Condoms. I think the films are great too. Young healthy looking guys enjoying hot bareback sex. Best advertisement ever.
BC_Bottom Posted November 12, 2010 Report Posted November 12, 2010 I was thinking of a rewards card. Every time you go bareback, you get your card stamped. Ten stamps and you get a free iPod.
sdcigarpig Posted November 12, 2010 Report Posted November 12, 2010 I would say, let them experience it for themselves first hand, slowly guiding them into the enjoyments of skin on skin action, as well as not having to pull out, along with feeling the load being pumped in the first time, pretty addicting.
Administrators rawTOP Posted November 12, 2010 Author Administrators Report Posted November 12, 2010 I was thinking of a rewards card. Every time you go bareback, you get your card stamped. Ten stamps and you get a free iPod. Hmmm... Or be a bareback gangbang bottom for a night and take loads from anyone and get the iPod - lol
Pig Bottom Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 I wouldn't encourage them. It's their choice. I'm mostly a bottom and in a dark room I don't care how old you are. I think you have to be 21 where I go anyway.
ashattacks Posted November 13, 2010 Report Posted November 13, 2010 i'm..... young as some of you know. I had sex far too young. I couldnt get enough of it so i kept fucking more and more. One guy asked if i wanted to do it without a rubber. I said sure why not Never looked back since. I think porn has a great deal to do with it. Like smoking.... You see someone your age doing it, you think it's cool, you try it, you get addicted. Simple
BooBear09 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Posted November 14, 2010 So, my question is sorta a marketing question... How can we get teens (legal) and twinks immersed into the bareback community more quickly? How do we get them from regular sex that's bareback into specifically seeking out loads? (preferably multiple anonymous loads)... Should we market bareback sex differently? Are there forms of marketing that are more effective for younger audiences? What things are a turn off for young guys?This is probably best answered by those of you who are young... You're more connected to the target audience... Papa bear,all you need to do is keep doing your thing. In my non-legal days,when I was only rolling around with guys my own age,it was always protected.This is because from a young age,us gays get the shit scared out of us with all the STD stories we hear.Then,when I was seventeen,I got my first chance to live out a dream I had been having since I realized I preferred dick:I got to sleep with an older man.I met him at work,we flirted for a few days,and one day he invited me over to his place and made clear his intentions.Sex,possibly more than a one time thing,but no romantic strings attached.We get to his apartment and,slowly but expectedly,things heated up,and by the time we get to the bedroom we were already half naked and eagerly working on the other half.He pulled my pants off and was about to throw them aside when I stopped him,I pulled out my wallet and retreved the rubbers that,back then,I never left home without.When he sees this,the mood seems to change.He tells me he doesn't use condoms,hates how they make his dick feel trapped and hates how much of the feeling it takes away from the fucking.This of course was a problem for me,because I had heard about all the nasty STD's,and didn't want to catch any of them.So I had to choose:Insist on protected sex and potentially end the experience,or say 'fuck it' to the condom and live out my fantasy of being bedded by a sexy older man.Like any hormonal seventeen year old,I chose the path that would most likely lead to me getting laid.I did in fact get laid that night,several times actually,and it was all raw,cum swapping bareback sex.And it was amazing. But,as amazing as it was,I initially considered it a one night thing for me and I did go back to protected sex for a couple more years,only barebacking when I REALLY needed it and I knew the other guy was clean.Then I got more and more into bareback porn,discovered people and sites like rawTOP,got more into the lifestyle,and for almost two years now (I'm 21 now) I've been exclusively bareback. So essentially,at least as far as my case went,the thing that converted me was having bareback sex at a young age.Now,I am in no way encouraging anyone to go out and sleep with anyone who it's illegal to sleep with,but if you can get to the next generation as early as legally possible and show them one or several mind blowing,condom-free experiences,then they'll come along eventually.And if they're anything like me,it won't be that long of a wait. Hope this helps with your question.
Administrators rawTOP Posted November 14, 2010 Author Administrators Report Posted November 14, 2010 Papa bear,all you need to do is keep doing your thing.In my non-legal days,when I was only rolling around with guys my own age,it was always protected.This is because from a young age,us gays get the shit scared out of us with all the STD stories we hear. ... Then I got more and more into bareback porn,discovered people and sites like rawTOP,got more into the lifestyle,and for almost two years now (I'm 21 now) I've been exclusively bareback. So essentially,at least as far as my case went,the thing that converted me was having bareback sex at a young age.Now,I am in no way encouraging anyone to go out and sleep with anyone who it's illegal to sleep with,but if you can get to the next generation as early as legally possible and show them one or several mind blowing,condom-free experiences,then they'll come along eventually.And if they're anything like me,it won't be that long of a wait. You got into the bareback community at 19 (after some experimentation earlier), which is sorta what I'd like to see more of. Thing is, it seems most young guys wait a few more years to really get into the bareback community (if they do at all). How do we make sure that when a guy hits 18 he gets the pro-bareback message loud and clear? Should we alter how we do our marketing to get the message to 18 and 19 year olds more effectively? So far what I'm hearing is 1) mobile and 2) good design. BTW, because of comments on this thread (and my own personal experience not having stuff to jack off to on my iPhone), I've moved forward my plans for a mobile site. At least initially it will be completely focused on mobile users (not just regular site that's mobile friendly). HTML5 + CSS3, plus tricks to detect and adapt to whether the mobile device is in landscape or portrait mode, etc. I also am putting it on a .mobi domain in part because I could get a better domain name than I could with .com...
blktone67 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Posted November 14, 2010 For me, the young guys who I encounter typically are looking to be broken in by a total top daddy my build. Once they see my medium thick 8 inch bone, they want to please me any way that I want to give it to them. Also, I am a big shooter, and once they feel my hot jizz filling them up, they don't want to turn back.
Synergise Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 Maybe it was just my school, but we were taught in sex-ed that if you get HIV, you get AIDS, and you die. Our teacher told us that people generally die 5 years after contracting HIV, and that if you have sex with someone HIV+, just once, you WILL get it too. If other people are being misinformed to this extent, its unsurprising that guys are worried about entering the barebacking community. I'd say early re-education is the most influential in changing the opinions of younger guys.
bbbtm20 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 This whole thread is in poor taste. The way you worded the original question is unsettling, as are the many ethically-unsound responses here. There's a very, very fine line between being sexually uninhibited and being a sexual predator. You guys are crossing that line with impunity and it's degrading the site. Having sex, whether safe or bareback, is a personal choice and not something you should attempt to sway for your own benefit. Trying to manipulate impressionable young minds into having the kind of sex you think they should be having is an appalling abuse of your status as adult gay men. This thread makes NO mention of educating guys about the risks of barebacking, nor does it mention the very real consequences of it. Instead, there are jokes about how best to bribe young guys into taking a very grave risk with their health, all so this site can be better marketed and the older men on here can maybe get laid. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. RawTOP, you need to realize that you aren't running a regular website here, but one that deals with potentially life-altering sex acts. Bareback sex is not just sex. It is a very risky act that carries very serious, sometimes fatal, consequences. Young gay men need to understand that, they need to make an informed decision about their sex lives and you guys need to stay out of it. Young people know how to use the Internet better than you do. They will find you if they want to. Preying on the fears and ignorance of young gay men may get you laid by cute boys and it may increase traffic on this site, but you're still manipulating others to get what you want. That makes you predators, which is the last thing young gay men need.
bottomcub85 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 This whole thread is in poor taste. The way you worded the original question is unsettling, as are the many ethically-unsound responses here. There's a very, very fine line between being sexually uninhibited and being a sexual predator. You guys are crossing that line with impunity and it's degrading the site. Having sex, whether safe or bareback, is a personal choice and not something you should attempt to sway for your own benefit. Trying to manipulate impressionable young minds into having the kind of sex you think they should be having is an appalling abuse of your status as adult gay men. This thread makes NO mention of educating guys about the risks of barebacking, nor does it mention the very real consequences of it. Instead, there are jokes about how best to bribe young guys into taking a very grave risk with their health, all so this site can be better marketed and the older men on here can maybe get laid. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.RawTOP, you need to realize that you aren't running a regular website here, but one that deals with potentially life-altering sex acts. Bareback sex is not just sex. It is a very risky act that carries very serious, sometimes fatal, consequences. Young gay men need to understand that, they need to make an informed decision about their sex lives and you guys need to stay out of it. Young people know how to use the Internet better than you do. They will find you if they want to. Preying on the fears and ignorance of young gay men may get you laid by cute boys and it may increase traffic on this site, but you're still manipulating others to get what you want. That makes you predators, which is the last thing young gay men need. This is a bit righteous for my taste, and I don't think anyone here was referring to minors. If you're old enough to vote or old enough to fight in afghanistan, you're old enough to bareback, and you would think, old enough not to be condescended to.
Nasty Raw Bottom Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 I was thinking of a rewards card. Every time you go bareback, you get your card stamped. Ten stamps and you get a free iPod. a free iPoz?
splitface Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 Hi there. I am pretty new to this site. I am still 18 years old, but my may birthday is coming up fast. Hope that's not too old to qualify for this thread Another thing I should point out for background is that I am a virgin. I have literally never been touched by a guy. So read what I say below with that in mind. It's all speculative, and since I have never tried it out, I must admit that I am likely not the best to speak about it. Still, I think that it's valid to post here. You have to fight all the stuff making HIV sound like a death sentence. Guys are afraid of the virus I think because they think it will be the end of their lives. All you have to do is get them to try it once. All it takes is one time to have cum deep in your hole for you to become an addicted cum whore. Part of it is this. I want to bareback, as the thought and sight of condoms is just... well, lame, ever since I found bareback porn. But, I am terrified of AIDS. This is reinforced by the fact that if I get AIDS when I am 18 years old, I am fucked for the rest of my life, you know? I will always have it. Do factual stories from long time POZ guys help in this regard? Yes and No. The fact that they can live and have sex and so forth is great, yes, but the stories about the side effects of the medications (diarrhea, wasting, that gaunt look, etc), the increased cost of living, the changes to the way people think of you, all of that is a HUGE obstacle for me, personally. Another point is that I don't yet really know what role I will play in sex; never had any experience, as I said. If I was topping, you can bet that I would be in that hole bareback in 0 seconds. But if I were bottoming, I don't know, I'd be scared. I would want the top to be clean; I might bareback with unknowns or even chase later in life. But 18 feels like it is too young to get AIDS. No matter how hot it may be, it is a killer disease, no matter how you slice it. There is no cure. You can control the direct effects, but eventually, all cases take their toll, and it will kill you. As for getting more guys into it, if you took away the heavier consequences, and pushed the fact that it is natural, better feeling, easier sex, you would have no problem getting the young ones in the game early.
male22191 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 I started fetishizing the idea of bareback around 21 after getting fucked raw, but from also seeing stuff from Cobra and the sudden popularity of creampie videos in the straight porn world. I guess it starts with the porn that is out there. Too often does the bareback porn feel mechincal and by the numbers. We need more porn where the guys actually kiss and are into it like in Cobra videos (look what it did for Brent Corrigan) with some talk of actually cumming inside, do you want my load, the talk and bottom going back and forth on this, etc. And they actually need to cum inside and not pull out. A breeding or creampie in a straight film does not involve pulling out. If younger people 18+ have these images to actually see, then they will want to take part in it themselves. You know if a celeb wears something, then other people want to wear it. If someone sees porn in which they cum inside and talk about cumming inside, then they will want to do it themselves. Hope that's helpful!
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