Trump supporters?

[Guest TeenCumDump]

16 hours ago, nospokenword said:

A fascist is someone who puts the economy ahead of individuals health and safety. A fascist is someone who tear gases innocent civilians so he can take a photo ops in front of a church. A fascist is someone who gaslights people by telling them that only he knows the truth (I mean come on, how is anyone serious supposed to believe that a failed casino owner who bankrupted his businesses six times and who the the d-list host of a stupid game show knows more than doctors and scientists?) A fascist is someone who lost the popular vote and never had a mandate to lead trying to rule the country like a king. A fascist is someone who tries to ban people from entering the country based on their religion. A fascist is someone who praises brutal dictators like Putin, Kim Jong-un, and Duterte while harassing long time NATO allies. Trump has never cracked 50% approval. The only scandal in the American media is that they treat Trump like a normal democratically elected leader when in fact he represents a minority of the country. The only reason he ever came to occupy the White House is because of outdated rules put in place to give out-sized electoral power to slave states. 

Finally, if you get reported, it isn't because you support a candidate that most Americans think is a vile human. It is probably because you include things like religious bigotry, such as in your reply to me. Have a nice day.

None of that makes him a fascist. I'm sure people who have lived (and died) under fascists' rule would agree. You seem to just hate Trump and jump on the bandwagon of 'oRaNge maN bAd' without really giving any objective reasons to why you dislike him. You can talk about his failed ventures into gambling, but he's still a multi-billionaire on his own making. He still won the election. Nobody had an issue with the electoral college prior to Trump's win and I think the answer is pretty obvious - democrats can't stand losing.

I was raised in a conservative household and I'm a conservative, all of my family is, I know moderates and liberals, socialists, all of which got their ideals from their parents/family - not to say this is *always* the case, but it mostly is, and that's why the electoral college is the best way of deciding an election. 

 

[Guest TeenCumDump]

4 hours ago, Starwood said:

Not when we are the 3rd largest economy in Europe and it gave us access to the 2nd largest trading block on the planet. One that is 26 miles away from us.

We are going way off OP topic here.

I know the Brexit thing was a slow train crash coming. The UK joined a custom union, not a untied Europe, which was always the intention. God knows the EU was not perfect, never said it was.But to walk away from the EU and the benefits it gave us, is in my opinion, insanity. One we are going to regret for a couple of generations before we plead to be readmission.

Interesting you assume the union will survive another beyond another decade. France wants to leave, UK is leaving, I remember reading an article shortly after Brexit about Sweden opinion polls showing pro-Swexit. The UKs departure from the EU will be the start of many, in my opinion Obviously poor economic countries such as Greece and Eastern Europe can't afford to leave because it's a crutch for funding.

[nospokenword]

2 hours ago, TeenCumDump said:

None of that makes him a fascist. I'm sure people who have lived (and died) under fascists' rule would agree. You seem to just hate Trump and jump on the bandwagon of 'oRaNge maN bAd' without really giving any objective reasons to why you dislike him. You can talk about his failed ventures into gambling, but he's still a multi-billionaire on his own making. He still won the election. Nobody had an issue with the electoral college prior to Trump's win and I think the answer is pretty obvious - democrats can't stand losing.

I was raised in a conservative household and I'm a conservative, all of my family is, I know moderates and liberals, socialists, all of which got their ideals from their parents/family - not to say this is *always* the case, but it mostly is, and that's why the electoral college is the best way of deciding an election. 

 

Um, Trump's ignoring medical and scientific advice about covid is an objective reason to hate him. Trump ignoring of science regarding climate change is an objective reason. Trump's use of teargas to clear innocent protesters is an objective reason. Trump deployment of federal officers without a local invitation to break up protests in Portland and Seattle is an objective reason. Trump's palling around with world dictators while dismissing NATO allies is an objective reason. Also, there is zero proof that Trump is a billionaire. There is a very good chance that he has lied about his self-worth. You say that nobody cared about the electoral college before Trump, but that is also wrong. Trump is the second person to take an electoral college vote while losing the popular vote in the past 20 years, and there has been a growing push to change the rules so that the winner of the popular vote becomes president. It is difficult to accept the leadership of somebody who not only never won a majority of votes, but never manages to crack 50% approval. Finally, I'm a leftist and card-carrying socialist. I did not get my politics from my parents, as my dad is a conservative republican and my mom is a moderate democrat. Regardless, where we derive our politics has nothing to do with the basic concept that a leader should have the consent of the governed, and Trump has never had the consent of a majority of Americans.

[shortstackhole]

I'm writing in known political prisoner Dr Theodore John Kaczynski for president

[BootmanLA]

3 hours ago, putitinmecoach said:

I'm writing in known political prisoner Dr Theodore John Kaczynski for president

Always such a joy to see people wasting their votes, especially in a state that is (for the first time in decades) in play.   :::turning off sarcasm:::

[Starwood]

9 hours ago, TeenCumDump said:

Interesting you assume the union will survive another beyond another decade. France wants to leave, UK is leaving, I remember reading an article shortly after Brexit about Sweden opinion polls showing pro-Swexit. The UKs departure from the EU will be the start of many, in my opinion Obviously poor economic countries such as Greece and Eastern Europe can't afford to leave because it's a crutch for funding.

No of us know what is coming (snigger) 10 years from now.

Maybe another country will leave. But the UK was always the most Eurosceptic country in the EU and the vote was a  close 52/48. I will be very surprised if France is next out of the door.

 

Oh and to all out Transatlantic cousins, sorry about the off shot of this post!

[Starwood]

9 hours ago, TeenCumDump said:

None of that makes him a fascist. I'm sure people who have lived (and died) under fascists' rule would agree. You seem to just hate Trump and jump on the bandwagon of 'oRaNge maN bAd' without really giving any objective reasons to why you dislike him. You can talk about his failed ventures into gambling, but he's still a multi-billionaire on his own making. He still won the election. Nobody had an issue with the electoral college prior to Trump's win and I think the answer is pretty obvious - democrats can't stand losing.

I was raised in a conservative household and I'm a conservative, all of my family is, I know moderates and liberals, socialists, all of which got their ideals from their parents/family - not to say this is *always* the case, but it mostly is, and that's why the electoral college is the best way of deciding an election. 

 

With you Teencumdump on this one, well part of the way.  A fascist put one state above the individual. sum of its parts is greater. Believes in a strong leader above all. I am not saying Trump is ok, he is a deeply flawed man, but he is not a Fascist. The left has a habit of screaming that anyone they don't like. Not that the right aren't prone to doing the same and screaming Trotskyist at Messer's Sanders and Corbyn.

As for the spectral college, if you don't like it, change it.

[timfreo]

Trump turned around the American economy like no President before him. Making America First a priority did wonders, considering the economic wasteland left to him by Obama. Dear God, if Sleepy Joe and wherever her name is, get into power and bring in that "New Green Deal" America will become a backwater nursing off the economic teat of the Chinese. 

Hate Trump for any reason you want but America and the World needs him there. 

 

[fillmyholeftl]

5 minutes ago, Starwood said:

With you Teencumdump on this one, well part of the way.  A fascist put one state above the individual. sum of its parts is greater. Believes in a strong leader above all. I am not saying Trump is ok, he is a deeply flawed man, but he is not a Fascist. The left has a habit of screaming that anyone they don't like. Not that the right aren't prone to doing the same and screaming Trotskyist at Messer's Sanders and Corbyn.

As for the spectral college, if you don't like it, change it.

You both are demented !! A SELF MADE Multi BILLIONAIRE  I'm crying because I am laughing so hard.  He's a narcissistic Megalo ego maniac... He is a danger to the country.  I will repeat. ANY GAY MAN, Any Woman, Any Black person who supports this POS is equally as Horrific 

 

[fillmyholeftl]

4 minutes ago, timfreo said:

Trump turned around the American economy like no President before him. Making America First a priority did wonders, considering the economic wasteland left to him by Obama. Dear God, if Sleepy Joe and wherever her name is, get into power and bring in that "New Green Deal" America will become a backwater nursing off the economic teat of the Chinese. 

Hate Trump for any reason you want but America and the World needs him there. 

 

HAHAHAHHAA  I'm pissing my pants and not for a good reason.  You people are hysterical... I can't wait for Joe & Kamala to begin to fix this country.  Oh have you heard?  tRumps conservative court wants to take away gay marriage.  Next they'll put you into a concentration camp with a pink star tattoo

[Starwood]

25 minutes ago, fillmyholeftl said:

You both are demented !! A SELF MADE Multi BILLIONAIRE  I'm crying because I am laughing so hard.  He's a narcissistic Megalo ego maniac... He is a danger to the country.  I will repeat. ANY GAY MAN, Any Woman, Any Black person who supports this POS is equally as Horrific 

 

You are missing the point.

I am not saying he is a nice guy, agree with his politics or that I would want to be stuck in a lift with him. He may be a megalomaniac , ego driven , failed business man. He does not project American power, the oppersite in fact, he hides behind a wall and wants to bring the troops home. He is an Right wing arsehole, but he is NOT  a fascist. Screaming Fascist at everything that you disagree with you does not make it so.

[fillmyholeftl]

1 minute ago, Starwood said:

You are missing the point.

I am not saying he is a nice guy, agree with his politics or that I would want to be stuck in a lift with him. He may be a megalomaniac , ego driven , failed business man. He does not project American power, the oppersite in fact, he hides behind a wall and wants to bring the troops home. He is an Right wing arsehole, but he is NOT  a fascist. Screaming Fascist at everything that you disagree with you does not make it so.

I'm not missing anything... I just watched him leave the hospital, still being infective, walk up the stairs outside the White House and take off his flimsy mask... I don't care if Fascist is the right term. He's a F*CKING POS

[Guest TeenCumDump]

7 hours ago, nospokenword said:

Um, Trump's ignoring medical and scientific advice about covid is an objective reason to hate him. Trump ignoring of science regarding climate change is an objective reason. Trump's use of teargas to clear innocent protesters is an objective reason. Trump deployment of federal officers without a local invitation to break up protests in Portland and Seattle is an objective reason. Trump's palling around with world dictators while dismissing NATO allies is an objective reason. Also, there is zero proof that Trump is a billionaire. There is a very good chance that he has lied about his self-worth. You say that nobody cared about the electoral college before Trump, but that is also wrong. Trump is the second person to take an electoral college vote while losing the popular vote in the past 20 years, and there has been a growing push to change the rules so that the winner of the popular vote becomes president. It is difficult to accept the leadership of somebody who not only never won a majority of votes, but never manages to crack 50% approval. Finally, I'm a leftist and card-carrying socialist. I did not get my politics from my parents, as my dad is a conservative republican and my mom is a moderate democrat. Regardless, where we derive our politics has nothing to do with the basic concept that a leader should have the consent of the governed, and Trump has never had the consent of a majority of Americans.

Sure, Trump has been fairly absent when it comes to listening to medical advice but what real advice is there that he didn't follow when it comes to Covid-19? Trump didn't use teargas, the police did when the violent protestors decided to start throwing objects and/or fighting the police - don't pretend that these rioters are peaceful, it was never peaceful. From day ONE they were destroying property. Deployed federal police because democratic state government wouldn't allow police to break up the rioters who were destroying local businesses, fighting each other, robbing businesses, killing each other. Trump never denied climate change, he left the Paris agreement because it didn't include countries such as China, India and Russia (the biggest contributors of global warning etc.) and instead wanted to keep restricting the United States who don't produce anywhere near as much as the three I've listed. 

 

The popular vote really means nothing. If the popular voted counted then states like California, that breed liberals, would always decide the victor despite how the rest of the country might feel. I don't see any negatives to the EC unless you dislike the outcome. 

[Guest TeenCumDump]

50 minutes ago, fillmyholeftl said:

You both are demented !! A SELF MADE Multi BILLIONAIRE  I'm crying because I am laughing so hard.  He's a narcissistic Megalo ego maniac... He is a danger to the country.  I will repeat. ANY GAY MAN, Any Woman, Any Black person who supports this POS is equally as Horrific 

 

Can you keep your racism, sexism and bigotry away from the forums?

[fillmyholeftl]

21 minutes ago, TeenCumDump said:

Can you keep your racism, sexism and bigotry away from the forums?

NOPE !