Fisting Gone Wrong

[Guest rookie6969]

Anyone ever had any accidents or bad experiences or lasting effects from fisting?  I have seen guys talk about the dangers or ff while on chems.  i've had a couple guys want to ff me, and while it intrigues me it also makes me very nervous.

[813bttm]

About 12 years ago I was scratched internally by a pushy, lazy, novice top. Unbeknown to me his nails were longer than expected, dirty and his hands unwashed.  When he scratched me accidently, he introduced all the bacteria into me internally. This setup a massive infection which, I thought I was just coming down with the flu when I got sick.

 

After 48 hours I was seriously ill and was rushed to the ER. I had no idea why I was so sick. After 24 hours in the ER they discovered I was septic and getting sicker by the hour. I was starting to have severe abdominal pain and turned extremely pale.  They placed me on 4 IV antibiotics, pain meds, anti-nausea meds, and other iv fluids.  I was hospitalized for a week.  Once I was getting better and the internal infection was slowing, they did a colonoscopy and discovered the top had over stretched my rectal cavity (lower portion) and damaged the inside walls by pushing too hard to fast. It was not a tear by very close to being a tear.  After 10 days, I was discharged with bags and bags of antibiotics and nausea meds.  

 

After 6 month my color returned, and I was able to enjoy the simple things in life like food.  I learned from this experience if playing with a virgin top have another top there to help train them. Inspect their hands and ask a million questions. If you get a bad feeling leave or stop the session.  There is lots of material out on the web on how to fist safely.  If a novice is not willing to learn and read, they are reckless and could injure or end up killing you.  Fisting is the most intense and intimate sexual experience a person can have. It is something that should never be rushed or done by a lazy useless uncaring fucker. 

[raw773]

On 12/9/2020 at 4:39 AM, rookie6969 said:

I have seen guys talk about the dangers or ff while on chems.  i've had a couple guys want to ff me, and while it intrigues me it also makes me very nervous.

 

22 hours ago, 813bttm said:

Fisting is the most intense and intimate sexual experience a person can have. It is something that should never be rushed or done by a lazy useless uncaring fucker. 

Man. You absolutely need a top who can handle this level of intensity. And I would never ever FF on drugs. I don't understand the point of having this insanely intense experience, and then also not being able to feel or enjoy it. Just not a good idea.

Be careful guys, and @813bttm I'm so sorry this happened.

[cyberdolphnow]

On 12/9/2020 at 4:39 AM, rookie6969 said:

Anyone ever had any accidents or bad experiences or lasting effects from fisting?  I have seen guys talk about the dangers or ff while on chems.  i've had a couple guys want to ff me, and while it intrigues me it also makes me very nervous.

There was a pig male on one site who'd had an accident with an extra large toy, who apparently couldn't be fisted anymore.  He was up front about not taking a fist deep which made it seem like he'd  had his internal organs down there reorganized. 

 

I won't fist anyone on chemicals  stronger than  mild booze and poppers.  As I've posted somewhere,  you should be able to enjoy the pig and fisting without being stoned if you're a truly real male pig.

[Shotsfired]

I find that communication is key when promoting safety while fisting. You should have at least a mental inventory of your injuries and sore spots. 

Playing sober, especially when playing with someone new and untested, is essential to your safety. Check cleanliness of hands,  fingernail length and sharpness,  and keep a small nail kit in your fisting gear. Also callouses can really scrape as bad as knuckles. DO NOT USE numbing agents or ointments like lidocaine.  DO bring Vitamin A+D Ointment for aftercare. I recommend fists first then toy play as toys can make you sore. Large toys are way more dangerous to use with other people  than  fists.  Toys can not tell you how tight things are,  how deep in your hole the toy is, or if things are tearing.

Another good rule of thumb  while fisting is to not let a top bind your feet or legs. I had a top try to shove up into me while I was bound. He wanted to get in me past the elbow.  Luckily I was able to outmaneuved him and unbind myself.  

I have only been injured by  being rough fucked without lube by a large top. It caused a deep fissure and once while cleaning out.

Proper fisting practice actually reduces the likelyhood of fissures and hemorrhoids. AND gives you better muscle control. 

Tops shouldn't shove their fists in you. They should push only until the point of tension. The bottom should then accept/allow the  fist into his hole.

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[813bttm]

On 12/10/2020 at 4:27 PM, raw773 said:

 

Man. You absolutely need a top who can handle this level of intensity. And I would never ever FF on drugs. I don't understand the point of having this insanely intense experience, and then also not being able to feel or enjoy it. Just not a good idea.

Be careful guys, and @813bttm I'm so sorry this happened.

Thank you very much.  I appreciate the kind words. Even thou I was injured and made sick, I didn't want to let a stupid reckless top stop me  from learning about fisting.  I bought several books on anal fisting and ass play / anal sex to learn.  I talked to experienced people that have been topping and bottoming for many years and share experiences and best practices.  I want to share a few things so people stop and think... 

#1 When stoned, drunk or high you will have no idea you're hurt or injured until it is too late.  You need to have a clear head to call 911 and get an ambulance. 

#2 When injured seeking immediate medical help will help you survive your injury.  Be honest with medical professionals. Lying to a medical professional means they are left guessing what is wrong  and it will slow you being treated. 

#3 Alcohol and drugs will thin your blood a lot and make you bleed and bleed.  You will not clot like you're suppose to.

#4 There is NO home treatment for a ruptured bowel. If you ruptured your bowel or have an intestinal tear you need SURGERY immediately. 

#5 No body cares at the ER that you're gay. They just want to save your life and help. Is it embarrassing ... yes but so what and who cares...

#6 Can you rupture your bowels from a large or long toy? YES.  Be careful, don't rush.  Use LOTS or lube then use more.  Being numb from drugs just means you're gambling with your life.  Moving up in toy size either length or width means do it with a clear head, when you have plenty of time and you have taken the time to prep.  

#7 A clear and calm head space will let you enjoy your play session and let you take more and do more when you body says "ok" and is ready.  

#8 Moving up in size on toys is a slow process (and I mean slow). Allow yourself the chance to relax, expand and enjoy the new feelings and experiences is very important. 

 

I have been in the fisting community for over 12 years and make it a point to share knowledge and experiences to help others learn.  I have posted under an thread on here about some of the best written material on fisting. Please feel free to ask me anything and I will respond as quick as  I can. 

[813bttm]

On 12/12/2020 at 4:56 AM, Shotsfired said:

I find that communication is key when promoting safety while fisting. You should have at least a mental inventory of your injuries and sore spots. 

Playing sober, especially when playing with someone new and untested, is essential to your safety. Check cleanliness of hands,  fingernail length and sharpness,  and keep a small nail kit in your fisting gear. Also callouses can really scrape as bad as knuckles. DO NOT USE numbing agents or ointments like lidocaine.  DO bring Vitamin A+D Ointment for aftercare. I recommend fists first then toy play as toys can make you sore. Large toys are way more dangerous to use with other people  than  fists.  Toys can not tell you how tight things are,  how deep in your hole the toy is, or if things are tearing.

Another good rule of thumb  while fisting is to not let a top bind your feet or legs. I had a top try to shove up into me while I was bound. He wanted to get in me past the elbow.  Luckily I was able to outmaneuved him and unbind myself.  

I have only been injured by  being rough fucked without lube by a large top. It caused a deep fissure and once while cleaning out.

Proper fisting practice actually reduces the likelyhood of fissures and hemorrhoids. AND gives you better muscle control. 

Tops shouldn't shove their fists in you. They should push only until the point of tension. The bottom should then accept/allow the  fist into his hole.

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Thank you for sharing this information.  It is so important see and read this information. 

[raw773]

On 12/13/2020 at 6:45 AM, 813bttm said:

 I talked to experienced people that have been topping and bottoming for many years and share experiences and best practices.  I want to share a few things so people stop and think... 

Much love from Chicago.

[leatherpunk16]

The first time I fisted a guy was in 2011. I was visiting my fuckbuddy Jim, and he had been watching a lot of German porn lately. After our usual dance of me gagging on his thick dick, we had a smoke break, and watched one of his latest purchases. A guy on the screen got fisted deeply. Jim turned to me with his drunk eyes and said "Do you think you could do that to ME?" I was willing to give it a go, so we went to his sling. I covered my hand and forearm in Crisco, and knowing he could take some toys deeply, I went for it. I had no idea what I was doing, and while I didn't rush in, I didn't exactly take my time with it either. I was nearly elbow-deep in Jim after only a few minutes of play. His safe word was "banana", and I kept telling him to let me know when it's too much or if he's had enough. I had no complaints. He just reclined in the sling, and let me do my work. 

After some time, my hand began to ache and go numb. I finally spoke up and asked him for a break from it. I got a small sound that sounded close to "no", so I kept at it a little while longer. The second time, I didn't give him a choice in whether I was done. I told him I'm pulling out and that it may sting a bit. Silence. I withdrew my hand, and found it covered in blood. I was alarmed, so I stood to show it to Jim. But he was passed out. Done for the night. I went upstairs and showed his partner the blood. I was certainly tempted to lick it, but I had to remember where it just came from, so I went to the sink and thoroughly washed myself. 

A couple days later, I called Jim and asked if he felt okay after the fisting. Everything came out normal. I then told him about the blood. All he had to say was "It happens." And he admitted he forgot the safe word before he went out of consciousness, but admitted that it felt amazing and he loved it. We did that almost every time after that until we were no longer able to see each other.

There's a small addendum to this that the pigs of the forum may appreciate. This past Thanksgiving, Jim's partner (now widow) told me that Jim had been poz for years and didn't treat it or tell anyone. What do you think would have happened to me if I had given into the temptation to lick the blood from my forearm? That's another topic in another forum, but let's just say it was a missed opportunity that I would not have been ready to embrace. Nowadays... who knows. 😈

[Detchiller]

A good friend of mine lost a long dildo in his ass. It ended up perforating his intestines. Fortunately, for the doctor, it was as simple as making a small cut in his abdomen, pulling out the dildo, and cutting the damaged portion of his intestine. After that, my friend now has a straight shot deep into his ass. You can go elbow deep in seconds- with lube and poppers, of course. He’s lucky to be alive, but as a fisting bottom, he appreciates his easy access ass.