MAGA bros - [Did not start out a political post]

[ErosWired]

14 minutes ago, TotalTop said:

Were you even alive or around in the 1970s?

Nice try, but flattery will get you nowhere. I was born in the 60s, and I’ve got the mileage.

[BannedWord]

20 hours ago, ErosWired said:

Obviously not every Republican is this way...

You're right. Not every Republican IS that way. I know I'm not. Never have I supported racism, hatred, homophobia or white supremacy, and I certainly support the LGBTQIA+ alphabet community to an exceptionally large extent. 

If you're mentioning a study, I'd love to see a link to it and who produced it to understand the background and any potential biases. Frankly, most conservatives I know wouldn't support any of what you say they're predisposed to. And it sounds on the surface as if it's saying something like "all Asians are shitty drivers" or some similarly ignorant observation. As with everything, some are and some aren't. 

Not every conservative abides by Trump. A lot of us arrive at conclusions through thought, observation, and careful evaluation.

"I used to be a liberal. Then I stopped watching TV."

[ErosWired]

7 minutes ago, TotalTop said:

Masculine bros are racist!

No one in this entire thread, of any persuasion, had suggested that until you did it just now. No one even inferred it. That’s all you, buddy. In fact, racism being a reflection of insecurity, a ‘masculine racist’ is somewhat contradictory in terms of describing a man of maturity.

[BannedWord]

33 minutes ago, TotalTop said:

Hon, it is a sex kink, fashion, fetish, or fantasy between consenting adults.  As I wrote before there are people into this that I have found on tumblr and porn blogs, and as far as sex kinks and fetishes go it is super mild.

Were you even alive or around in the 1970s? There are gay leather fetishists who have a nazi/SS uniform sex kink and it was not common but it was or is around.

They're still around, and a number of them subscribe to some pretty twisted and Nazi-like temperaments or espousing 14/88 bullshit. If you're going to be a cumdump for any cock, you're probably not asking about their politics and proclivities. You don't see MAGA caps in a dark room. 🤣

[ErosWired]

4 minutes ago, TheSRQDude said:

Frankly, most conservatives I know wouldn't support any of what you say they're predisposed to.

The research, as I recall, didn’t draw its conclusions from a study of conservatives at large, but from an analysis of those in the MAGA movement as a subset. I had heard the report on the radio, but if I can find a print reference I’ll try to post a link.

[BannedWord]

5 minutes ago, ErosWired said:

The research, as I recall, didn’t draw its conclusions from a study of conservatives at large, but from an analysis of those in the MAGA movement as a subset. I had heard the report on the radio, but if I can find a print reference I’ll try to post a link.

I for one would be interested in seeing that, not because I believe it's remotely true but because I'd like to better understand how they developed and identified the subset and phrased the questions to get their responses.

Thanks.

[Guest]

35 minutes ago, ErosWired said:

No one in this entire thread, of any persuasion, had suggested that until you did it just now. No one even inferred it. That’s all you, buddy. In fact, racism being a reflection of insecurity, a ‘masculine racist’ is somewhat contradictory in terms of describing a man of maturity.

Riiiiiight, sure.  It was not openly said, but it certainly was implied.

I am personally not racist but I have met or heard racist things said or done by people of all races, not only Europeans AKA White people, and I have heard a lot of racism from Asians, Blacks, and Latinos as well as from Jewish people.

[Guest]

So, I initially was just kinda trying to discuss fetishization of these type of men... They feel superior to others strictly because of their lifestyle... Men who command respect. Literally not uncommon.

But for some reason, being interested in a certain thing, on a site where there are stories about stealthing straight men, THIS is what caused people to be upset.
I genuinely cannot believe the reception to this, On a site where dark fetishes are encouraged.
I'll just say this: nobody cares if you're NOT interested in it. Congrats, you're the majority. You're not who this post is for. Let other people enjoy things.

[pervinmt]

On 6/9/2022 at 11:25 PM, SeanBrah said:

May be a long shot but is anyone else infatuated with MAGA bros? Like... The ALPHA superiority of them... I'm a fuckin SLAVE to it

Avoiding the politics that this thread is, I'll say that I personally love redneck, white trash, country boys. As a Montana boy, I'm surrounded by them. My favourite reason for going to Walmart! 

[BlackDude]

3 hours ago, TotalTop said:

BLM might have started out as a protest group but now it is a black supremacist or racist hate group much like the Nation of Islam, and others. CRT and the false claim that anyone who is not black/or who is not a 'poc' (people of color is a super outdated and racist term), automatically hates blacks is racist.

[think before following links] [think before following links] https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/06/the-fbi-has-identified-a-new-domestic-terrorist-threat-and-its-black-identity-extremists/

[think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics/democrats-criticized-kente-cloth-trnd/index.html

[think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.newsweek.com/no-its-not-racist-oppose-critical-race-theory-opinion-1646902

[think before following links] [think before following links] https://nypost.com/2021/07/08/blm-chapter-calls-american-flag-symbol-of-hatred/

What does Nancy Pelosi wearing a kente cloth have to do with anything?
 

None of the links you provided have anything to do with “black supremacy.”  By it’s very definition you cannot have two things as supreme. Fighting for Justice and equality is not supremacy, and comes off as a projecting. When other groups fight, they fight for domination. 
 

Though I do agree that the term POC is outdated. Most blacks people now realize POC is an identity immigrants use only when it benefits them, only to identify with the same anti-black, pro white Supremacist ideologies in their home countries. 

And I’m not going to even argue about CTR because that’s a vague term that was intentionally created with no clear definition to hide anti-black rhetoric.  It’s actually kinda cowardly in my opinion. Just say what you feel about black people and stand on it.

 

 

 

 

[NEDenver]

8 hours ago, TotalTop said:

yes and pointless virtue signalling. I highly doubt any of the people here claiming "oh no! Not me! Never! I have morals and values! Masculine bros are racist!" Would actually in real life turn down someone who is their type who they later learn they do not agree with politically at all.

Don’t worry.  Everyone received your virtue signaling, too, so your tribe will give you social support.

[BootmanLA]

17 hours ago, TheSRQDude said:

Do I like either Biden OR Trump? Nope. If I had to choose based on what is better for our country just seeing the past 17 or so months, I'm less thrilled with Biden than I was in 2020 and I wasn't keen in him then. I'd prefer a mean tweet over economic disaster and foreign policy failings, but that's just me, but I do not want Trump back. You and I have had our own disagreements, but at the end of the day, we agree that we can disagree civilly. I think that's a distinction that is often lost when someone in an LGBTQIA+ group diverts from progressive views to think that they agree with any violence against the community. Pretty sure you'll find that an overwhelming majority of those people support and defend your rights and will stand shoulder to shoulder to support your rights to even disagree with me/us. 😃

Here's the thing though. You, personally, in particular, may not want Trump back (good for you). But the GOP, writ large, does. The overwhelming majority of Republicans (in the range of 80%) believe that Biden stole the election, that Trump legitimately won, and that he was justified in everything he tried to hold onto power.

When 80% of a self-identifying group (they CHOSE to be Republicans) believe in something, you can pretty much decide it's de facto official policy of that group. Whether you identify as a Republican (or not), there's certainly AMPLE cause for any non-Republicans to look askance at anyone who self-identifies as one. Because even if they don't personally believe the Big Lie, even if they don't personally like Trump, they're perfectly happy belonging to an organization that does believe it and does like him, as a matter of policy in fact. And as the saying goes - you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.

And of course, belonging to a political party is a matter of right (under what the Supreme Court recognizes as the right to association, stemming from the other protections of the First Amendment). But I (and others) also have the right to call people out for that association. 

There's an old saying that there were no "good Nazis", because you can't be a good person and profess belief in the stated (and unstated) principles of the Nazi organization. It's fast becoming that way with the GOP.

[BootmanLA]

15 hours ago, SeanBrah said:

So, I initially was just kinda trying to discuss fetishization of these type of men... They feel superior to others strictly because of their lifestyle... Men who command respect. Literally not uncommon.

But for some reason, being interested in a certain thing, on a site where there are stories about stealthing straight men, THIS is what caused people to be upset.
I genuinely cannot believe the reception to this, On a site where dark fetishes are encouraged.
I'll just say this: nobody cares if you're NOT interested in it. Congrats, you're the majority. You're not who this post is for. Let other people enjoy things.

But then you used "MAGA" in the description - and that term is political, as many people pointed out, and to cry innocence that you didn't really mean it in a political sense is really, really disingenuous. There is no universe where the term "MAGA" in the English language isn't political. None.

And here's the other thing: yes, it's permitted to talk about some (not all) "dark" fetishes on here. But that's mostly in a fictional context; fiction isn't "encouragement". It's an exploration of fictional happenings that (in this site's context) are erotic and turn someone on, NOT an "encouragement" to go out and do these same things.

There are forum topics about bug chasing and gift giving (which are consensual) but there's no folder of topics on non-consensual stealthing. So to claim this is "encouraged" is a pretty far reach.

Now, if you want to discuss "these type of men" without bringing politics into it: then don't bring political terms into it. It's really that simple. It's at least as valid a topic as most others here. But if you're concerned about it taking on a political tone, I don't think you have to look past the initial post in the topic to see where the politics entered.

[BootmanLA]

18 hours ago, BlackDude said:

Exactly. I think Don Jr. is kinda cute but I recognize he doesn’t Believe anything he says and he’s doing this one for the money and two he’s an attention starved ego maniac. I probably bang him one Just to fuck with his head, but that’s it. 

Unfortunately there are people who are taking what he says seriously. 

To be fair I think he's too coked up to be a good fuck either as a top or a bottom. 

[BannedWord]

3 minutes ago, BootmanLA said:

There's an old saying that there were no "good Nazis", because you can't be a good person and profess belief in the stated (and unstated) principles of the Nazi organization. It's fast becoming that way with the GOP.

And it's become that way with the Democrats and progressives as a result of cancel culture, social media censoring, media coverage, the list goes on. So the extremes of both sides are equally guilty. I really do try to look at multiple perspectives to every issue, and many of them can be challenging, especially when they're misrepresented by both sides. 

People aren't worried about gay or trans issues as much as the issues that impact everyone: The economy. War in Ukraine. Foreign Policy. Supply Chain. Affordable housing. How the price of gasoline affects everything. Whether Biden knows where he is, what day it is, or if he'll screw up reading the teleprompter. Look at the polls and they'll tell you the same thing. Latest one I saw had 87% of respondents worried about the economy, over 75% worried about crime. 

I'm sure all of this could make an interesting debate over a couple of beers, but the point I'll leave with is this: If you look at the general population -- GOP, Democrats, Libertarians, Independents -- we're all largely centrist and moderate. It's like watching the pendulum swing left & right but realizing that the pendulum shows the extent to which it will go before it swings back. Everything is actually controlled by the fulcrum, the pendulum is only taking that energy and applying it while the fulcrum remains largely anchored toward that center where it comes to rest.

No. There are/were no good Nazis. But history told us a few things about the Nazis and their strategy: Silence dissent. Disarm citizens. Indoctrinate. Control the media. Make citizens dependent on the government. Let's hope the fulcrum comes back to the center before we end up down that path, because a lot of people see things going in that direction.

Peace.