The State of Virginia will probably be blocked from accessing Breeding Zone

[rawTOP]

If you're in Virginia - pay attention! You're about to be blocked from using this site.

Just as Louisiana was blocked from this site a few months ago - your legislature just passed a bill similar to Louisiana's (with near unanimous support, and no one speaking up against it). Given the conservative leanings of your governor and the lack of opposition - it looks like it will pass, at which point I'll block the state of Virginia.

More details here: https://apple.news/AEC0QFlK_RWu-ECr74wy3DA

Please do the legwork and figure out if there's a way to stop this.

And remember - WHO YOU VOTE FOR MATTERS!!

[120DaysofSodom]

The United States is becoming the Handmaids Tale.

[Guest]

You could just implement a means to verify proof of age. Personally, I believe in protecting minors from porn and those who wish to do minors harm. 

[120DaysofSodom]

43 minutes ago, Jackruby said:

You could just implement a means to verify proof of age. Personally, I believe in protecting minors from porn and those who wish to do minors harm. 

Isnt there already a "You must be 18 years of age or older to enter this website" sort of disclaimer on BZ before you are allowed into the site? I dont see how that is different from any other porn site. These laws set the precedent that just because somebody under the age of 18 can find a way to circumvent laws and do something illegal that they shouldnt be doing, that everybody else should have to suffer for it. And then where does it end? Are we no longer allowed to purchase alcohol and cigarettes and marijuana because a minor may illegally obtain them too?

[backdoorjimmy]

God bless the Commonwealth.... or something like that. 😠

[rawTOP]

1 hour ago, Jackruby said:

You could just implement a means to verify proof of age. Personally, I believe in protecting minors from porn and those who wish to do minors harm. 

1. The software that drives this site isn't capable of integrating with age verification services. Changing that would be cost prohibitive.
2. Even if it could handle AV, the reoccurring costs would be more than Breeding Zone makes
3. Even if the cost were affordable - it would block search engine spiders like Google (since allowing Googlebot/Bingbot through based on their user agent strings probably violates the law). Those search engines are  the primary source of new members
4. That will result in the slow death of the site - which is exactly why these laws are being passed - they want us to go out of business.

I've said this pretty loudly on the main adult industry forum - there is a completely different solution which won't put us out of business. They're called Private Access Tokens (aka PATs). Apple has already started to use PATs to replace CAPTCHA, and Google is working on implementing them as well. The idea is that your device knows more about you than anyone else. Apple and Google are using them to confirm that the user is human. They could also be used to confirm whether adult content blocks are in place on the device. Then the parent only has to do a minimal amount of parenting to turn on the adult content block. (And adults who don't want to see adult content can turn on the block as well). Then PATs can be used to confirm that adult content block is not turned on. It's quick, cheap and efficient. And PATs are completely privacy-protecting. There's no 3rd party who knows you're accessing adult content. There's no additional database that can be hacked since it happens in the moment with no logging.

Thing is, it's not age verification. It's verification of a lack of an adult content block. But it achieves the same goal. Actually, PATs would be more effective since the current laws don't apply to the major social media sites since the laws only apply to sites with >33% "harmful" content, and PATs are so quick, cheap and easy that even social media sites could be required to use them.

At the end of the day these laws are being written by religious conservatives with the goal of putting sites like this out of business. Our silence is allowing them to determine how children are protected. They are not the best people to be writing these laws - their goal is to put us out of business. If the tech industry worked with the adult industry we could do a better job at protecting kids and not put us out of business.

39 minutes ago, 120DaysofSodom said:

Isnt there already a "You must be 18 years of age or older to enter this website" sort of disclaimer on BZ before you are allowed into the site? I dont see how that is different from any other porn site. These laws set the precedent that just because somebody under the age of 18 can find a way to circumvent laws and do something illegal that they shouldnt be doing, that everybody else should have to suffer for it. And then where does it end? Are we no longer allowed to purchase alcohol and cigarettes and marijuana because a minor may illegally obtain them too?

The laws in LA & VA want more than that. Yet those age verification pop-ups do help. It's pretty widely accepted that you'll never stop a kid who's determined to see porn. They will find a way to get around anything you implement. The thing absolutely no one wants and which needs to be addressed is kids accidentally seeing porn. The age verification pop-ups do help, but they're not perfect. Having to enter a birth date is even better. But the real problem is social media sites - and they're not covered by these laws - because the laws were written by people who want to put us out of business - "protecting children" is just a ruse.

[120DaysofSodom]

8 minutes ago, rawTOP said:

The laws in LA & VA want more than that. Yet those age verification pop-ups do help. It's pretty widely accepted that you'll never stop a kid who's determined to see porn. They will find a way to get around anything you implement. The thing absolutely no one wants and which needs to be addressed is kids accidentally seeing porn. The age verification pop-ups do help, but they're not perfect. Having to enter a birth date is even better. But the real problem is social media sites - and they're not covered by these laws - because the laws were written by people who want to put us out of business - "protecting children" is just a ruse.

100%

The republicans curtail their intentions behind a veil of deception and do this with every piece of legislation they put forward. They've done it with stem cell research which has shown promise in the treatment of multiple life debilitating illnesses. They did it with women when trying to dictate what they can and cannot do with their bodies. They're doing it currently in Ten. with drag performances, and now they're doing it with adult entertainment. I am completely on board with preventing minors from unintentionally seeing pornography, as I am with anybody regardless of age having to see unsolicited porn, but ultimately, when it comes to kids, the onus of responsibility should be on parents to supervise their children and what they do on the internet, not society, and most definitely not the government.

[bareback-flipflop]

Oh my God. Where does your country go? If anybody believes that this kind of restrictions will save minors from porn, I can be really sorry for them. These sites like this have moderators who can (and must) check every unlawful activities. Many other sites via internet even for example the Twitter are freely available for anybody and nobody can check who can see and what. Banning never will substitute education. Every country like this or mine should support the (sexual) education of children and parents and their preparation for being conscious (digital) citizens. 

[ellentonboy]

I just have a question for @rawTOP and I apologize if I am asking the same thing you have heard thirty times.  But why is this getting no press coverage, why is it that no one, BESIDES YOU, is telling us that certain sites will be blocked.  I live in the land of DeSatan (Florida) who  he  would be the first governor or legislature to try a stunt like this, but I am surprised that there is little or no media coverage.  What about all those who pay for a hook up site like Grindr, are they going to have to use a VPN in those states or  just understand their state is taking their hard earned money from them, because most sites are not free?

I apologize @rawTOP - I again, was being lazy.  I read your first post and now I understand what I can do so that this doesn't happen to me.  Thank you again.

Edited March 11, 2023 by ellentonboy
STUPID QUESTION!

[BergenGuy]

10 hours ago, 120DaysofSodom said:

The republicans curtail their intentions behind a veil of deception and do this with every piece of legislation they put forward.

"Think of the children" has been used for decades curtail freedoms and impose censorship.  Why?  Because who could possibly be against "protecting" children.  Conservatives are masters at framing a position in simplistic terms and putting progressives on the defensive.

[BBBottomBitch]

So fucking ridiculous. I know my phone knows my location but would that really be all that's needed to keep me from viewing this site? If I cross over to DC or Maryland, which are both close by, it'll allow me access then? It just seems like a lot of work for a bullshit reason (I don't think kids are that affected from coming across porn, either accidentally or purposely). 

And if I am banned from viewing the site, add me on Twitter- BBBottomBitch or telegram- BottomBitch1. 

Edited March 11, 2023 by BBBottomBitch
Forgot to add something

[jimazoid04]

Welp... damn. 😞

[tighthole64]

With the current "Governor" in FloriDUH, I see it happening here also.

[Zencoli]

On 3/10/2023 at 9:36 AM, 120DaysofSodom said:

Isnt there already a "You must be 18 years of age or older to enter this website" sort of disclaimer on BZ before you are allowed into the site? I dont see how that is different from any other porn site. These laws set the precedent that just because somebody under the age of 18 can find a way to circumvent laws and do something illegal that they shouldnt be doing, that everybody else should have to suffer for it. And then where does it end? Are we no longer allowed to purchase alcohol and cigarettes and marijuana because a minor may illegally obtain them too?

Well what I don’t get is if it’s a law to verify age, and a kid still uses it, they should suffer for it. These laws have nothing to do with the child. It’s an attack IMO. 

[tallslenderguy]

Here's an excerpt from the bill:

"(6) "Harmful to juveniles" means that quality of any description or representation, in whatever form, of nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, or sadomasochistic abuse, when it (a) predominantly appeals to the prurient, shameful or morbid interest of juveniles, (b) is patently offensive to prevailing standards in the adult community as a whole with respect to what is suitable material for juveniles, and (c) is, when taken as a whole, lacking in serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value for juveniles."

[think before following links] https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?231+ful+SB1515ER

Apparently the day before one turns 18, watching 'porn' as defined by this bill is "prurient, shameful or morbid interest."   Those who use such descriptors don't believe that once one turns 18 watching porn is no longer "prurient, shameful or morbid interest."  A problem with phrasing in laws like this is it defines and labels those who watch porn as "prurient, shameful or [having] morbid interest...."