Any LGBT+ Republican individual out here?

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46 minutes ago, BootmanLA said:

Border apprehensions and deportations have been UP under Biden. Republicans torpedoed a deal on border security that was 100% stick, 0% carrot, all because Trump told them to, because he wants to run on the idea that the border is open. That's bullshit.

Kids under 10 need to know some basic facts about sex, in age-appropriate ways. What most assholes who complain about this mean is "They're telling our kids that gay people exist" and that infuriates them, because it means they can't control the narrative long enough to raise another generation of bigots.

Which is also the point about racism. If children are old enough to EXPERIENCE racism, they're old enough to know it exists. Only privileged white shits don't want children to know that yes, we have some things in our history that we're not proud of. Again, age appropriate, but if six-year old Ruby Bridges can hear "NO N*****S IN OUR SCHOOLS!" shouted at her as she walked into a formerly all-white elementary school, ten-year-old Bethaneeee can learn that her grandfather's generation was the one who did the shouting, and why it was wrong.

Most of which debt was run up under Republican presidents or in response to Republican-caused recessions. Did you miss that when Trump left office, fully 25% of ALL government debt was run up on his watch?

One reason we help other parts of the world is that we (not just the US, but the European nations from which we descended) stole hundreds of trillions of dollars (in today's money) in resources and slave labor from "the rest of the world". And we learned, in WWII, that if we help our neighbors defend against invasion, we don't have to fight them right at our border. 

Inflation is down to almost pre-Covid levels. You seem to be thinking that because prices are still high, inflation is still high. But inflation measures GROWTH in prices, not whether they're remaining high.

That's simply false, Absolutely, categorically, false. A recession is when the economy SHRINKS (for 2 consecutive quarters). GDP growth in 2023 was higher than in 2022. I don't know whether you don't know what a recession is, or just not how to read economic charts, but this is simply wrong as a matter of fact. Unless of course you're into those KelleeeeeeAnne Conway "alternative facts".

Unfortunately, Republicans do everything possible to make sure that people DO have to struggle - they cut all forms of assistance that might help people get ahead, in order to finance massive tax cuts for the rich, which, contrary to the delusional beliefs of most on the right, do NOT trickle down in some sort of "rising tides lift all boats" crapola. Those tax cuts for the rich finance massive offshoring of wealth to tax haven countries, fourth and fifth houses in the tropics or ski resorts in Europe or wherever, yachts that have sub-yachts docked on board for shorter excursions, and the like.

What an ill-informed, misogynistic rant. It may well be true that her personal relationship with a former political leader in her state helped her career - god KNOWS that Republicans never, ever, EVER exploit personal ties to get ahead in business or anything else, right? Or is it only a problem when a Black woman does it? - but she's a lawyer who served as SF's DA for seven years, California's AG for another six, and then US Senator for four years. I'd wager she's done more with her life than anyone in this thread.

But in the interest of comparing sex practices and careers, I invite you to put forth your accomplishments in both so we can compare.

Not going to argue about politics. I believe what I believe, and you believe what you believe. Just leave it at that. Arguing politics is like 2 2-year-olds fighting over the Legos. I knew I was going to get bashed for being a majority conservative. and I don't care that saying that I'd bang Kamala repeatedly is what you think is misogynistic. It's a fact. She's a good-looking Milf and I'd leave all her holes dripping.

BTW calling me misogynistic does nothing to me. You can use the entire dictionary of words ending in ist. Never has bothered me, never will. Got better things to do like get high and jerk off and watch porn.

Edited February 25 by WillingRawVerse

[BootmanLA]

9 minutes ago, WillingRawVerse said:

Not going to argue about politics. I believe what I believe, and you believe what you believe. Just leave it at that. Arguing politics is like 2 2-year-olds fighting over the Legos. I knew I was going to get bashed for being a majority conservative. and I don't care that saying that I'd bang Kamala repeatedly is what you think is misogynistic. It's a fact. She's a good-looking Milf and I'd leave all her holes dripping.

BTW calling me misogynistic does nothing to me. You can use the entire dictionary of words ending in ist. Never has bothered me, never will. Got better things to do like get high and jerk off and watch porn.

Of course, you can believe anything you want, whether it's that the earth is flat, the moon is made of green cheese, or that Trump was tougher on the border. Doesn't change the actual FACTS, of course, but belief is whatever you want to make of it.

But in point of fact, I didn't call you misogynistic; I said your COMMENT was misogynistic, and it was. And not because you said you'd want to bang her (and lord knows, she has more taste than that, I expect), but because you denigrated all her accomplishments by saying she got them because of blow jobs.

I certainly wouldn't say that whatever you've done with your life, no matter how amazing it might be, is because you frequent outdoor sex venues and offer yourself up to any willing cock that comes along and is willing to unload in you (per your bio line on here). I would ASSUME that whatever you've done, whether it's as a governor or gas station attendant or whatever, is because you actually put forth the effort to do it. It's just a shame you can't grant that same courtesy to the Vice President. 

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12 minutes ago, BootmanLA said:

And not because you said you'd want to bang her (and lord knows, she has more taste than that, I expect), but because you denigrated all her accomplishments by saying she got them because of blow jobs.

 

Personal attacks don't fly bud. Giving you a chance to edit your post or it will be reported.

You know nothing about what women I attract. So piss off. And I'll stand by that she sucked and fucked herself to the top. Just like plenty of others. Why is it misogynistic when a woman does it, but when a man does it it's OK?

[BootmanLA]

Just now, WillingRawVerse said:

Personal attacks don't fly bud. Giving you a chance to edit your post or it will be reported.

You know nothing about what women I attract. So piss off. And I'll stand by that she sucked and fucked herself to the top. Just like plenty of others. Why is it misogynistic when a woman does it, but when a man does it it's OK?

You do seem to have a gift for inventing things you imagine I said and then asking me to defend them. I never said it was OK (or wrong) for a man to sleep his way to the top, nor for a woman to do so. I said that people who jump to pointing out that she dated a powerful politician and claim that's the only reason she ever accomplished anything in her life are rarely the sort to point out that, for instance, Hair Furor would be nothing but the owner of some generic Queens and Brooklyn apartment buildings if it wasn't for his father bankrolling his career. Personal relationships as a way of getting ahead only seem to attract negative attention from Republicans when it's a woman, or a minority, or both, who are using those personal relationships.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, BootmanLA said:

You do seem to have a gift for inventing things you imagine I said and then asking me to defend them. I never said it was OK (or wrong) for a man to sleep his way to the top, nor for a woman to do so. I said that people who jump to pointing out that she dated a powerful politician and claim that's the only reason she ever accomplished anything in her life are rarely the sort to point out that, for instance, Hair Furor would be nothing but the owner of some generic Queens and Brooklyn apartment buildings if it wasn't for his father bankrolling his career. Personal relationships as a way of getting ahead only seem to attract negative attention from Republicans when it's a woman, or a minority, or both, who are using those personal relationships.

It is the only reason where she is today. She used her sexuality to get to the top. Plain and simple. And don't give a single percentage of a fuck what you think.

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2 hours ago, WillingRawVerse said:

Republican who is more of an Independent Conservative with left leanings. Hate the current admin. Doing nothing but letting America go to shit. Open borders, teaching kids under the age of 10 about sex and racism, 34 trillion in debt with tons more spending. Not saying Republicans don't spend a lot, but some somethings need to be provided for the security of American citizens first, then the rest of the world. Not the world first. We're still crippled by inflation, the economy is in a recession, and everybody is busting their asses to make ends meet. Shouldn't have to struggle like this if there were policies in place to help American citizens.

And Kamala is just a pretty face who sucked cock to get where she is now. She has zero awareness of what's going on. I think she finally made one trip to the border after all these years of being the border czar. Stupid cunt.  Granted I'd give her a good fucking in all her holes, but that's all she is worth.

 

Brave man for commenting about this.

 

[viking8x6]

@BootmanLA @WillingRawVerse that's enough.

 

[DallasPozzible]

 

[BootmanLA]

6 hours ago, WillingRawVerse said:

I am well aware of NATO. And we fund a large majority of it when it's supposed to be 2% of GDP for all nations in NATO. And I'm not arguing against what we're doing now, but the unnecessary spending to fight a proxy war with Russia when our idiot in charge left 40 million dollars worth of high-tech military equipment in a BOTCHED withdrawal in Afghanistan. And what you think is a screed is what's happening in our current administration. The Biden Administration policies have made the United States of America the laughing stock of the world. Nobody respects Biden. He's just a baffling, incompetent puppet. 

What's the plan for Biden for 2024? Hide in his basement again?

If you say that he's not, well can't help you there..

News flash: we don't "fund NATO". You, like the fucking moron who served as our 45th president, seem to think that NATO has dues and that most countries are behind on their dues. That's not how it works.

NATO member countries are supposed to spend 2% of their GDP on THEIR OWN MILITARIES, so that they have sufficient resources to participate in a conflict if a NATO member is drawn into one. We CHOOSE to spend more than 2% of our GDP on our military, mostly because members of both parties like the defense contractors who have operations in their states and love showering them with money.

As for your perception of the world's opinion of Biden, all I can charitably say is that it's uninformed, at best. I don't see other nations' leaders rolling their eyes at comments Biden makes, as they did with Trump; I don't see foreign leaders frantically trying to "no comment" their way out of criticizing a crucial ally, the way they did repeatedly with Trump. In fact, the only people who seem to have liked Trump better are the authoritarian dictator types, like Orban, Erdogan, and, of course, his favorite, Putin.

Anyone who thinks that Europe's leaders don't respect Biden over Trump should consider what he said about what he'd do if Putin invaded a NATO country: he'd roll over and let Putin take it.

Something something Denial something something River something Egypt.

[BootmanLA]

4 hours ago, topblkmale said:

Brave man for commenting about this.

Not teaching kids about sex is one reason red states, which largely lack sex education, lead the nation in teen pregnancies and sexually transmitted infections. It's also why they lead the nation in child brides and sexual assaults on children, because when you don't have a culture that tells children from an early age that it's wrong for people to do things to certain parts of their bodies, surprise! people get away with doing just that.

And before anyone jumps in and bleats "Buh that's the parents' responsibility, famuhleeeeeeeeeeeeeee values!" that's also why most child molestations are by family members. The state won't step up and tell kids that this is a violation of their bodies, and the parents who are molesters are thrilled because they're much less likely to get caught - there's no "message" out there for the kids to hear that what Daddy or Uncle JimBob does to them when Mommy's out is wrong.

[DallasPozzible]

5 minutes ago, BootmanLA said:

And before anyone jumps in and bleats "Buh that's the parents' responsibility, famuhleeeeeeeeeeeeeee values!"

My parents were both teachers and at least somewhat progressive, but they never talked to me about sex. At some point - maybe I was about 13 - my mom had me putting away groceries when she got home from the store. In one of the sacks there was a little booklet called “What Your Teenager Needs to Know About Sex.” And that’s the only sex education I ever got. I’m not sure it harmed me, but I certainly would have been better off if my parents had been more comfortable talking about sex. And back in the 60s, we had no sex ed or even health classes. I can’t imagine what it must be like for girls not to have some form of sex ed before getting their first period. 

[BootmanLA]

1 minute ago, DallasPozzible said:

My parents were both teachers and at least somewhat progressive, but they never talked to me about sex. At some point - maybe I was about 13 - my mom had me putting away groceries when she got home from the store. In one of the sacks there was a little booklet called “What Your Teenager Needs to Know About Sex.” And that’s the only sex education I ever got. I’m not sure it harmed me, but I certainly would have been better off if my parents had been more comfortable talking about sex. And back in the 60s, we had no sex ed or even health classes. I can’t imagine what it must be like for girls not to have some form of sex ed before getting their first period. 

My parents were both conservatives, and neither of them spoke one word to me - ever - about sex. Nothing about how babies are conceived, nothing about STI's, nothing about nothing. I know that my mom must have told my sisters at least some basics about how to handle menstruation, but I don't think that she or my dad went beyond that.

The worst part, in my view, is how abuse of kids with no sex education is cyclical and repeats, especially in poorer families and even more so in single-family ones. It starts with a father or uncle or whomever molesting kids in their care; the boys grow up thinking it's normal to do that to younger kids, and the girls grow up thinking they can't say no to men who want to do things to them. Eventually the girls get pregnant - not always from the abuser, but often someone they turn to for affection in the only way they know - and they end up dropping out, going to work, and the kids end up being cared for someone in the family who keeps doing what the previous generation did. Like I said, famuhleeeeeee values.

[NWUSHorny]

I must be in a small minority, my parents while both conservative (although both of them have completely repudiated the MAGA GOP) did make an effort to have those conversations, as well as a booklet like @DallasPozziblementioned, I had an uncomfortable conversation with my dad when I was presented with the booklet (I don't remember the name of it), and several more in with both parents over the next few days. One of the more uncomfortable car rides of my life was with my dad when I was a junior in high school, we were going to tour his alma mater, he decided he needed to let me know what happens from a sexual perspective in college, thank god my mom didn't do the same, that drive was 2 hours longer. They also didn't pull me out of the sex education sections of my Jr High and High School health classes, although what I learned from the gym teachers was of rather dubious value, there were a lot of boys in my small rural school that were sent to study hall during those weeks.

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On 2/25/2024 at 4:25 PM, WillingRawVerse said:

well can't help you there

Agreed.  Thanks for your input.

[hntnhole]

17 hours ago, DallasPozzible said:

“What Your Teenager Needs to Know About Sex.”

That jogged my memory:  I can't remember exactly what grade I was in - probably Junior High - when my Dad took me downtown to the YMCA one night to hear an "expert" clinically describe what the heteronormative event we call fucking consisted of.  It was an "X happens to the woman, Y happens to the man, Z happens when they fuck" kind of thing, quite "clinical".  While I recognized a number of schoolmates (with their dads), I don't think any one of us ever talked about it at school.  

That was it, as far as my cultural sexual education went.  Thank Whatever it was only a one-night thing.