Poz50something Posted Wednesday at 11:06 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 11:06 PM Seems to me that they finally got Austin Wolf on actual statuary child rape. This all began with the ‘gay celeb’ sharing coercive sex and outright child rape videos…I am perplexed…did the distribution of pedophile videos not count? There have been many cases where people were imprisoned for much less. As far as what he is, and whether the child gave consent, a child cannot give consent to a sex act. And Wolf will have register as a sex offender. 1 1 Quote
Poz50something Posted Thursday at 02:49 AM Report Posted Thursday at 02:49 AM On 6/24/2025 at 8:35 PM, brnbk said: . If a 14 or 15 yr old with some kind of license driving a car gets into an accident are you going to say he is a minor and therefore cannot be held responsible for his actions? Some situations do require us to ignore the fact that the individual is a minor and look at his actions as an adult. Any 14 or 15 year old isn't permitted to drive in any province in Canada, and if one was caught driving, you can be sure the parents would be prosecuted. But driving falls within the permitted actions of 16 year olds. Sex with an adult isn't. Was it just Austin's responsibility or does the 15 yr old in question share some responsibility as well? As the adult, oh yeah. There's no excuse for not finding out the partner's age. Moreiver, as an adult fil, star, he is responsible as well. . The fact that Mr. Wolf has consistently met men for sex, almost at the rate or twice a day for the past twenty years , shows how committed and loving he is. meeting MEN - yes....meeting an underage boy, (yeah he's a BOY at that age) NO. Who is this other adult? Irrelevant, as it's simply for prurient interests of leering fans..... If it was a text message, how did the two come into contact. I mean its not like Austin is a teacher and used his position to get young underage peoples number. It is actually more likely that the young angel contacted Austin rather than the other way around. May I ask, why did this young angel travel to another state to have sex with an Adult? Did he know that he would be breaking the law and put his sexual partner - the older guy- at substantial risk. as we tend to punish adults in cases where they have sex with minors, because we assume that they gave the mental capacity to distinguish right from wrong - Wolf knew he was doing something illegal, period. Your use of 'young angel' is unnecessary..you are imputing thst there was a devious action on the part of the 15 year old boy to get Wolf in trouble. Can we do that? Wolf also shared files, including the brutal rape of a 10 year old...so we kinda have to deduce that his intentions were. If Austin is to been punished for breaking the law, so should this young angel— and be tried as a juvenile criminal. I don't understand how you came to this conclusion...even if the the child wanted to meet for sex, how is he considered to have given his consent, when children cannot consent to sex? He's the victim here.... Wolf was the adult....how is the child a juvenile criminal? Quote
ffabbian Posted Thursday at 03:31 AM Report Posted Thursday at 03:31 AM I don't condone adults having sex with underage teens but I disagree that every adult is equally guilty. My friends 14 year old son had a grindr profile and snuck out at night to hook up. If that went to court I would disagree that the adult hook ups did something wrong. When I was underage I had sex with a lot of men. It was pre- internet and looking for it in adult spaces. There is no reason for them to question my age, I coerced it in a place where I should not have been and pretended to be something that I wasn't. I feel that they did nothing wrong but the ones that knew broke the law. Quote
timidrawbttm Posted Thursday at 01:34 PM Report Posted Thursday at 01:34 PM On 6/28/2024 at 4:14 PM, Justaholeff said: Beauty is definitely on the inside! It doesn't matter how big that dick is OR how good looking you are if you're ugly on the inside...you UGLY! Yeah, just look at Ron Jeremy....wait, nevermind 1 Quote
brnbk Posted 22 hours ago Report Posted 22 hours ago On 6/25/2025 at 10:37 AM, ellentonboy said: READ THE LAW. You're an idiot. Defending a convicted pedophile? You actually think that Wolf didn't know he was not of legal age? .............................................YOU DO REALIZE YOU ARE DEFENDING A CHILD MOLESTER WHO ACCEPTED A PLEA DEAL AND ADMITTED HIS GUILT IN COURT. Oh, and for the record, your profile reads you are a Canadian Yelling pedophille is not going to change the complexity of the case, nor is calling the guy arguing the case names like Idiot, Canadian eh, etc. scare me from stating what I think. What I have stated is not "nonsense" but a nuanced understanding of the Law. Pedpophiles are btw, people who have an interest in pre-puberty children¹. Young individuals hit puberty around 11 to 13 yrs of age and slowly start developing an interest and understanding of sex. Children who where earlier believed in the stork delivering babies story find the story hard to be true and begin their transition towards adulthood learning the about the human body and life. This transition is not necessarily smooth and neither is it universally similar. Some kids start earlier than others. Some kids are interested in the opposite gender and some to their own. Some are interested in their own race and some other races. Some find certain body types attractive while some find other types repulsive. There is great diversity in what the young person wants. The Law in its wisdom at some point decided an age of consent to try to facilitate this transition. I believe its intentions where noble and good when formulated but it ignores some of the ground reality of our times and perhaps of all times. What is strange about the U.S. is that it is the country which invented the modern pornography industry and yet has one of the highest age of consent in the developed world. . Many European and South American jurisdiction have much lower ages of consent, around 14 to 16 I believe. Before you form a judgement on Austin's behavior, I want to pose some questions to you: Do you think your neighbors would treat you well, if they got to know that you routinely have casual sex not just with one but sometimes with multiple men! Agh. I am sure your coworkers in your office will start avoiding you if they know you have had casual sex with stranger multiple times in the last month or year. Thus, before you start judging other peoples sexual behaviours and situations, first try to see how society views you and then try to give some thought to the yardsticks we use to judge others. Austin Wolf is an exemplary gay celebrity who made a lousy decision. However, he is not a rapist or pedophille or any such things. I will stick to the present charge against him ie of inducing a minor or rather actually having illicit sex with him. I have addressed my thoughts on his previous charges in another post. The judge owes it the community and the cause of justice to find out more about this little angel. How many people has he had sex with? how many people has he contacted over social media or texted for sex. How did this sexual encounter see the light of day. Did his parents report him to the police for having sex with an adult porn star? Because you have made personal, xenophobic and quite frankly, rather racialized observations about me- Canadian etc, that are unfair and uncalled for I am going to state something about your profile. You do have a headless shot? Is that really intentional? you don't have the balls (or butt, if you prefer) to show your face to the world on a barebacking site, but u want to throw arrows at Austin Wolf who has been an Out gay celebrity for almost 20 years for an alleged crime that honestly seems just too bizarre to be true. and for the record, my biggest question if on an app if you see a top stud whose profile says Canadian, are u going to pass him just because of his nationality? In a sauna when you are frolicking with guys, are u going to say No to a Top who is not from the U.S. ? On 6/25/2025 at 7:06 PM, Poz50something said: As far as what he is, and whether the child gave consent, a child cannot give consent to a sex act. And Wolf will have register as a sex offender. A 15 yr old guy who apparently travelled interstate to have sex with a adult porn star and another adult, and who likely has been sexual with a lot of adults and young adults his age is not a child, but a misguided youth who does not care about the consequences of his actions. This young angel's behavior during this sinful and shameful mélange is again proof that he is not a child. Did these two grown men behave like devils and hold this innocent angel down and force their sexual desires on him OR did this guy willingly and wantonly have sex with these grown men because of his out of his own volition and to satisfy his own curiosity or pleasure or worse a habit that he has acquired and started to enjoy, the unfortunately illegal fantasy of having sex with handsome porn stars like Austin? It sounds to me that the latter case is true as at no point did this young angel or his parents contact the police and this illicit act only came to light when the police started investigating Austin. The two situations are radically different and I believe Austin should be judged based on what actually happened. People do sexually illicit things all the time, affairs with their best friend's wife, cheat on their wives or husbands with prostitutes or escorts, leave marriages inspite of being married for 30 years etc. These things are immoral but not illegal. It does seem that the law in the U.S. at the moment seems to suggest that Austin is the guilty party but don't forget there was a time in the not so distant past in the US, where sodomy ie sex between two men, even if adults, could land them in jail and the distant past where cheating on your wife i.e. adultery could land u in jail as well. The law must be fair to all parties. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ¹Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,psychiatric diagnostic criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[4] People with the disorder are often referred to as pedophiles (or paedophiles). - [think before following links] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Text Revision, 5th Edition. American Psychiatric Publishing. 2022. pp. 794–796. ISBN 978-0-89042-575-6. 1 Quote
brnbk Posted 22 hours ago Report Posted 22 hours ago On 6/24/2025 at 1:36 PM, PervBugChaser said: exactly. I wonder how many guys here started to have sex at underage. Quote
muscmtl Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago What noone talks about is the fact of being rejected by a 50 yrs old when u 14 years old messes you up bad. You get into the "not even hot enuff for a pedophile" territory. So to all the older men who said yes to a horny teen, thank you. Quote
muscmtl Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago On 6/25/2025 at 7:06 PM, Poz50something said: Seems to me that they finally got Austin Wolf on actual statuary child rape. This all began with the ‘gay celeb’ sharing coercive sex and outright child rape videos…I am perplexed…did the distribution of pedophile videos not count? There have been many cases where people were imprisoned for much less. As far as what he is, and whether the child gave consent, a child cannot give consent to a sex act. And Wolf will have register as a sex offender. Wolf is an asshole, confirmed douche, so no one cries over him. 1 Quote
Toadstool Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, muscmtl said: What noone talks about is the fact of being rejected by a 50 yrs old when u 14 years old messes you up bad. You get into the "not even hot enuff for a pedophile" territory. So to all the older men who said yes to a horny teen, thank you. I relate to this so much! It really messed with me when I was rejected too. 1 Quote
brnbk Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago On 6/25/2025 at 10:49 PM, Poz50something said: Any 14 or 15 year old isn't permitted to drive in any province in Canada, and if one was caught driving, you can be sure the parents would be prosecuted. But driving falls within the permitted actions of 16 year old's. Sex with an adult isn't. You are incorrect, there. Alberta allows 14 yrs old to get on a learner's driver and 15 yr olds can do the same in the three Northern Territories.¹ On 6/25/2025 at 10:49 PM, Poz50something said: as we tend to punish adults in cases where they have sex with minors, because we assume that they gave the mental capacity to distinguish right from wrong - Wolf knew he was doing something illegal, period. Your use of 'young angel' is unnecessary. You are imputing that there was a devious action on the part of the 15 year old boy to get Wolf in trouble. The minor in this case acted like an adult. He wanted to have sex with Austin Wolf, presumably because Austin is the type of stud he fantasizes about or is willing to have sex with until he finds his ideal mate. If a 15 yr old can drive a car.. he can most likely decide if he wants to have sex or not. I am not for a second advocating that teenagers should have sex with older guy. I strongly believe that in an ideal society where gay are truly accepted and treated as regular and normal folk and gay marriage is universally accepted: gays would be almost exclusively be monogamous. However we do not live in the ideal society, at least yet, and the law and social guidelines need to take into account the way human being in that society actually are and live their lives. A poll here on BZ where about 1350 members have responded shows that the majority of them 27% had anal sex between the ages of 13 and 16 and the age category that came sex i.e. 20% where between the ages of 10 to 20.² I believe the courts needs to listen to how gay men actually live their lives rather than how they ought to perhaps in an ideal world. This young gentleman is not necessarily devious, at least I hope not, but he was callous and blind to the possible consequences of his actions. He must be held equally responsible for the mess he knew he was going to get the other two men into, if he went ahead with his fantasy. This young angel was not in any way coerced by the two adults, at least, as far as I can see from the details that have been released to the public. "Persuading someone to have sex" hardly sounds like a crime to me. Of course it depends on the age and mental faculties of the person in question. I mean there can be a guy who is an adult but not of a sound mind and sex with such an adult would be wrong. Often the courts will decide to charge a juvenile as an adult because of the crimes he committed. I think, the court does need to spend some more time investigation the young gentleman in question and take a look at his actions before it makes up its mind about Austin OR what really happened. I do think the authorities that should release more details of the case so that the public can make up their mind as to who is guilty here. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ¹[think before following links] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver's_licences_in_Canada ² 11 hours ago, brnbk said: Quote
partying.hard Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago (edited) So, Austin Wolfe. I’ve known him for years. At most, a distant acquaintance. Never had sex. Never wanted to. I’ve been in same room, same party, with him about 20 times. He always creeped me out. He gave weird vibes. And he was downright rude to people who did not fit his physical expectations. To me, beautiful people come in all different shapes and sizes. He trash-talked people because of their perceived lack of physical beauty. So, as far as that goes, I’m glad he got what he deserved. His time in prison is not going to be easy. He may be able to fuck some Twinks who are locked up with him. But it’s not the sexual fantasy many of us jerk off too. Big ni88er Bubba is going to fuck him, and fuck him hard. Child molesters are treated like scum in prison. Being locked away has not been good for him. He doesn’t get the high protein meals he’s used to. He hasn’t had access to a gym. None of the facials and massages he is used to. I know someone who has seen him three times in the last months and says he looks haggard. Weathered. Granted, he is aging. He’s almost as old as I am! 😉. But he’s not the pretty man, the muscle stud, he used to be. As you can tell, I’m not as biggest fan. I’ve gone online to the court system. I’ve read all of the charging documents against him. More than likely, I am guessing like in most cases, they didn’t find all of his transgressions. And even of the things they found, prosecutors only include those most egregious cases where they think they can Prove the case. Caveat: when I was in my mid to late teens, I was already having very promiscuous sex. Some of it was with other teens, some of it was with guys who were adults. I never was abused nor forced to do anything against my will. Not only was I willing, I probably was the instigator many times. In a strict legal interpretation, those men could have been arrested and prosecuted. As a 15-year-old, I was fully developed. Hair on my chest and ass, full bush with big dick. Several of the men I hooked up with freaked when they found out how old I really was. Edited 4 hours ago by partying.hard 2 1 Quote
fuckholedc Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago (edited) The initial charging documents emphasized Wolf's possession and alleged online distribution of child pornography (using Telegram), like hundreds of such files. By child they specifically meant children under 12 ("SMITH possessed sexually explicit images of minors, including images of prepubescent minors and minors who had not attained 12 years of age.") Some of these files allegedly depict beating and rape of a child around 10 years of age. These initial charges are truly horrific, if true. If he is actually on trial currently for statutory rape, then either the two child pornography charges couldn't be supported or they added the charge in order to secure a conviction or they dropped the child pornography charges entirely and just went with the statutory rape charge. The age of consent in NY state is 17 years old. and the minor involved was allegedly 15 at the time. They are either going to throw the book at him because they couldn't sufficiently prove the two child pornography counts (which are horrific if remotely true) or they are going to add those charges in a separate case. Did the prosecutor drop the child pornography charges and if so why? It might have been the case that Wolf/Smith wasn't really aware that the young man was under 17 (even though it is reported that Wolf/Smith said he did know that - so there seems to be some kabuki [as in the Japanese theatrical form] going on here). This would have been easy enough to assert by his defense lawyer at any rate and would have been probably difficult to challenge. Perhaps he has been advised to essentially plead guilty to the lesser charge in order to avoid some kind of legal problems that arose with the prosecutor's case? Incredibly it appears that the child pornography charges only carry a 10 year sentence while the Advocate claims that the statutory rape charge is 10 yrs to life. Either way, 10 years to life for having engaged in consensual statutory rape seems excessive (although those terms are NOT at all excessive for the child pornography charges [except that life imprisonment is an excessive punishment in modern countries] ). Edited 3 hours ago by fuckholedc Quote
Moderators drscorpio Posted 3 hours ago Moderators Report Posted 3 hours ago Moderator's Note: Please keep this discussion civil and refrain from personal attacks on one another. I would prefer not to have to shut it down. This is just my opinion from here on out. Austin Wolfe was ALLOWED to plead out to this one charge. In return, charges for possession and distribution of child pornography much of which did involve prepubescent children which would seem to indicate he does have those proclivities were dropped. ["Those videos depicted children as young as infants, including a video showing a 10-year-old child bound and raped."] Almost certainly what that means is there were reasons prosecutors feared they could not successfully get a conviction on those charges meaning there were probably legal technicalities a lawyer could bring up. Instead they chose to prosecute him on a charge which they can prove which was the count of enticement of a minor. Also, there was doubtless intense negotiations between prosecutors and his defense team before this plea deal was offered. His willingness to plead to this charge which carries a sentence of 10 years to life indicates that he was willing to take that penalty to make the rest of it go away. I have certainly been approached by underage guys on hookup apps. I agree that morally they bear some of the responsibility if they get a grown man into bed. I agree we should be able to count on those providers ensuring the minimum age for using them is met. I also agree that some 15 year olds know who they want to fuck, and in my mind should be able to make those decisions without ruining their partner's life. But there are also some 15 year olds inexperienced enough to make them subject to manipulation and exploitation by those who know how to play these games better. The only solution I can think of to protect the ones who aren't able to protect themselves if for there to be a legal age of consent. Depending on where you are the Age of Consent in the USA is 16, 17, or 18. Nowhere in the country is a 15 year old legal. I have certainly known guys as young as 13 who could easily pass for 18, but that is pretty rare. Given Wolfe was also in possession of porn involving children as young as infants, I am not willing to give him a pass on this particular teen passing for old enough. Quote
muscmtl Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, partying.hard said: So, Austin Wolfe. I’ve known him for years. At most, a distant acquaintance. Never had sex. Never wanted to. I’ve been in same room, same party, with him about 20 times. He always creeped me out. He gave weird vibes. And he was downright rude to people who did not fit his physical expectations. To me, beautiful people come in all different shapes and sizes. He trash-talked people because of their perceived lack of physical beauty. So, as far as that goes, I’m glad he got what he deserved. His time in prison is not going to be easy. He may be able to fuck some Twinks who are locked up with him. But it’s not the sexual fantasy many of us jerk off too. Big ni88er Bubba is going to fuck him, and fuck him hard. Child molesters are treated like scum in prison. Being locked away has not been good for him. He doesn’t get the high protein meals he’s used to. He hasn’t had access to a gym. None of the facials and massages he is used to. I know someone who has seen him three times in the last months and says he looks haggard. Weathered. Granted, he is aging. He’s almost as old as I am! 😉. But he’s not the pretty man, the muscle stud, he used to be. As you can tell, I’m not as biggest fan. I’ve gone online to the court system. I’ve read all of the charging documents against him. More than likely, I am guessing like in most cases, they didn’t find all of his transgressions. And even of the things they found, prosecutors only include those most egregious cases where they think they can Prove the case. Caveat: when I was in my mid to late teens, I was already having very promiscuous sex. Some of it was with other teens, some of it was with guys who were adults. I never was abused nor forced to do anything against my will. Not only was I willing, I probably was the instigator many times. In a strict legal interpretation, those men could have been arrested and prosecuted. As a 15-year-old, I was fully developed. Hair on my chest and ass, full bush with big dick. Several of the men I hooked up with freaked when they found out how old I really was. Also met him, and preaching to the choir. I ll add this, he worked really really hard at being macho butch, cuz once drunk all those lovely flaming traits came out screaming 1 Quote
BergenGuy Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago On 6/24/2025 at 8:35 PM, brnbk said: The fact that Mr. Wolf has consistently met men for sex, almost at the rate or twice a day for the past twenty years , shows how committed and loving he is. Perhaps as a sex performer, he just loves to give, and make people sexually happy. Could this young angel have heard of the reputation of Austin and taken advantage of it? I'm sure that Mr. Wolf has turned down many men who wanted sex with him during his lifetime. He is not incapable of saying "no." Quote May I ask, why did this young angel travel to another state to have sex with an Adult? Did he know that he would be breaking the law and put his sexual partner - the older guy- at substantial risk. Did he understand what he was fantasizing about and did, was a crime under the eyes of the law. I believe anyone who breaks the law willingly needs to face the consequences of it. If Austin is to been punished for breaking the law, so should this young angel— and be tried as a juvenile criminal. We don't know where the young man lived, but crossing state lines into NYC can be as simple taking a short train or subway ride. The metro area is so integrated that it might not have occurred to him that he was crossing states lines or that it mattered. Fifteen year-olds typically are not well-versed in federal law. As for punishing the young man, I don't know that it is illegal for a minor to have sex with an adult, only that it is illegal for an adult to have sex with a minor. It can be argued that this young man was mature and more than willing to have sex with Mr. Wolf, and that 18 is an arbitrary number for age of consent. Perhaps. But, an objective number is the only way the law can work. Trying to base things on whether the young person involved is mature enough to make these decisions would make the law too unpredictable for everyone involved, especially the adult. 1 Quote
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