Exclusion and Inclusion

[tallslenderguy]

i don't know what else to call this thread, i have so many thoughts and feelings running through me right now.  One item off the list is, i have come to think of the Republican party as exclusive. i haven't always thought that way.  i used to think there was a place for LGBTQ+ people in the Republican party, but Trump has elevated the extremist component in the party to the point that i think they pose a threat to LGBTQ+ people, and to minorities in general.

"Conform or be cast out." i've experienced this personally. i know first hand the thought processes and results when extremists have power. 

As i was leaving the gym yesterday, there was a guy in a compensatory pick up making a purposeful spectacle of himself, hot-rodding up and down the street with a large American flag flying from a pole in the bed of the truck, and an almost equal in size flag flying underneath with this: 

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He's not alone. i live in a town of 50k in Oregon, and there are more than a few trucks with similar displays. i did a search of who sells this sort of thing and found this particular item is "Sold Out."  Check out the link, the material they sell is very informative of the approach and mentality some very vocal Trump supporters have. They're the ones that concern me mo, i could easily see this guy throwing a beer bottle at the 'faggots' walking on the street, or worse. 

This is how the owner explains his merchandise: 

Our Goals and Mission

At this very moment, our first and very own Keep on Trumpin’ store is operating along the Grand Strand! We hope to serve you and your family with all of the things you could ever need! Our Goal at TSS and our Keep On Trumpin’ store is to provide you with a way to laugh at your frustrations. We should all strive to be our best selves, while still holding firm to our beliefs. Come and hang out!

[think before following links] https://trumpsuperstore.com/product-category/political-flags/

 Historical precedent shows people like this come out of the woodwork when a civilized government is no longer in power to hold them at bay. 

[topblkmale]

 

You might need a break from politics right now.

Seriously.

I'm unsubscribing from a lot of online political content until after the election.

I'm focusing my energy on finding a replacement cum-dump bottom for the two I lost this year.

Life is too short.

 

[tallslenderguy]

3 minutes ago, topblkmale said:

 

You might need a break from politics right now.

Seriously.

I'm unsubscribing from a lot of online political content until after the election.

I'm focusing my energy on finding a replacement cum-dump bottom for the two I lost this year.

Life is too short.

 

Nah... i'm fine. i don't really dedicate a great deal of time or energy to politics. Yesterday i painted all the trim on my porch, the day before i stained it and the cedar shingles on the gables of my house. Picked blackberries in my garden, made tomato juice from the harvest. Got bred. 

Meanwhile, i think the process of selecting who is in power can affect our every day life... finding a mate to fuck with included in the mix. 

Wish i lived in Your neighborhood, i'd love to be Your regular cum-dump. ❤️

[BootmanLA]

53 minutes ago, topblkmale said:

 

You might need a break from politics right now.

Seriously.

I'm unsubscribing from a lot of online political content until after the election.

I'm focusing my energy on finding a replacement cum-dump bottom for the two I lost this year.

Life is too short.

 

Hope that if Trump wins, they pick up the cumdump when they pick you up, so you can keep indulging your needs while they're herding us into detention. Wouldn't want you to have to "go without".

[topblkmale]

1 minute ago, BootmanLA said:

Hope that if Trump wins, they pick up the cumdump when they pick you up, so you can keep indulging your needs while they're herding us into detention. Wouldn't want you to have to "go without".

 

LOL

Prison cum-dumps. I'm here for it.

 

[BootmanLA]

3 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

i don't know what else to call this thread, i have so many thoughts and feelings running through me right now.  One item off the list is, i have come to think of the Republican party as exclusive. i haven't always thought that way.  i used to think there was a place for LGBTQ+ people in the Republican party, but Trump has elevated the extremist component in the party to the point that i think they pose a threat to LGBTQ+ people, and to minorities in general.

I used to delude myself, too, into thinking there was a place for LGBTQ+ people in the Republican Party. There never has been. The "Log Cabin Republicans" and similar groups have always been shunted to the side, denied any role in political conventions, delegate selection, and the like, and only tolerated because they were ripe for plucking campaign donations with the promises of tax breaks for the rich (or near-rich) among them.

Most Republican members of Congress who were outed or came out while in office were defeated for re-election or retired that same term. There were a couple of exceptions, but none lasted more than a term or two after going public. And in fact, only ONE openly gay person has ever been initially elected to Congress (that is, openly gay at the time of his first election) - George Santos, who, as we all know, is almost certainly a serial fraudster.

No openly gay person has ever been elected to statewide state (that is, non-US Senate) office in any state from the Republican Party. Nor has any closeted gay Republican been elected to statewide state office and then come out. Every openly LGBTQ+ statewide elected official, at the state level, has been a Democrat, as have roughly 97% of members of Congress who are LGBTQ+.

Small wonder considering that the national GOP platform still uses code words like "Sanctity of Marriage" and expressly denounces anything to do with transgender individuals.

[Poz50something]

20 minutes ago, BootmanLA said:

Small wonder considering that the national GOP platform still uses code words like "Sanctity of Marriage" and expressly denounces anything to do with transgender individuals.

Sanctity of marriage, when Gingrich left his dying wife in hospital and divorced her on her deathbed. 
The hate that same-sex marriage engenders in Republicans is beyond comprehension. How did my marriage affect theirs? 

[BlackDude]

All of this because Donald Trump didn’t want to pay his trick tab. 
 

And I think there is a place in the Republican Party for gays. Look at Fox and Friends. 

[hntnhole]

21 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

compensatory

HAHAHAHAHA .... you get the Gold Star of the Day for your efforts at maintaining decency in the face of those who lack it.  

17 hours ago, BlackDude said:

Look at Fox and Friends

When I bought my tv, I had it altered before they brought it; it won't even go to the Fux channel (unless there's a good game on).  At least pre-season is finally here !!!

[PupBoiRapeSlut]

On 8/14/2024 at 5:03 PM, topblkmale said:

 

LOL

Prison cum-dumps. I'm here for it.

 

I hope I’d be the one they choose to shove in your cell as your new prison bitch for you to use raw whenever you want 

[hntnhole]

On 8/14/2024 at 5:14 PM, BootmanLA said:

"Log Cabin Republicans"

We once had neighbors that lived close by.  They apparently thought that my other half and I were similar to them, and shortly after moving into the 'hood, they made (social) overtures to us. 

The T was tall, good-looking, and a wasp through and through.  He was also an officer in the local LCR's, looking down his long, thin nose at all kinds of gays for all kinds of reasons.  The bottom was decent looking, but so damn vain - he thought he was so beautiful he couldn't be bothered with anyone that wasn't at least approaching his own beauty.  I never thought quite so highly, but that's not the point. 

Those two thought they just shit crushed pineapple.  Both could go on and on ad nauseum about how the "everybody fucks everybody" gays were ruining every other gay guys lives, blah blah blah.  But the divorce came quick and fast, when each was discovered cheating (with outside guys). Fortunately though, soon after that debacle, one of them got transferred to another office, and they had to move away.  

And no, we didn't offer to help them pack.  

Moral: Talk is cheap.  It's not what we say that counts, it's what we do that counts.  

[Rillion]

I used to be a Republican. Grew up in a conservative section of Southern California. My mother worked for a defense contractor and we were very anti Soviet. In 1992 I watched Pat Buchanan get enthusiastic cheers at the GOP convention in Houston as he declared a cultural war against gays and realized that with the fall of the Soviet Union the evangelical Christians were taking over the party. 

I voted for Clinton in 92 and left the party (voted third party in 96 because of Clinton signing DOMA and DADT but Democratic in all the elections since). I have become more liberal as the Republican party has become regressive. For a long while I was the outlier in my family as they continued to support Republicans despite being pro-choice and pro LGBT equality because of me. 

Trump changed things. My mother could not support Trump because of his ass kissing of Putin and seeing how the Republican party morphed into a cult of personality she left the party in 2018 and has voted straight ticket Democratic ever since.

My nephews and nieces have come of age in a more accepting society and are Democrats or independents, with my niece being even more liberal than I am (AOC is her favorite politician). 

This upcoming election may well be the GOP's last stand. Their base is shrinking and just turning out their existing voters may no longer be enough to win elections. Honestly if it were not for the Electoral College favoring the Republican party, they would have lost every Presidential election except one starting with that 1992 election. So GOP, how is that cultural war you declared back in 1992 working out for you? 

Edited August 21 by Rillion

[tallslenderguy]

17 hours ago, Rillion said:

I have become more liberal as the Republican party has become regressive.

^^This^^

One doesn't even have to be or become more progressive to contrast to the regressive Republican cult members driving their party into the ground. 

[BootmanLA]

18 hours ago, Rillion said:

Honestly if it were not for the Electoral College favoring the Republican party, they would have lost every Presidential election except one starting with that 1992 election. So GOP, how is that cultural war you declared back in 1992 working out for you? 

They wouldn't have won that one (2004) either, except for having squeezed out an Electoral College win despite the popular vote in 2000. Without Shrub's win in 2000, the response to 9/11 would have almost certainly focused exclusively on Afghanistan, where Bin Laden was operating, We wouldn't have invaded Iraq, losing many thousands of American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives. And by the time 2004 rolled around, we probably would have been reasonably satisfied with Gore, and re-elected him, as American voters are reluctant to change presidential parties in the middle of a "hot" war.

[BootmanLA]

4 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

They wouldn't have won that one (2004) either, except for having squeezed out an Electoral College win despite the popular vote in 2000. Without Shrub's win in 2000, the response to 9/11 would have almost certainly focused exclusively on Afghanistan, where Bin Laden was operating, We wouldn't have invaded Iraq, losing many thousands of American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives. And by the time 2004 rolled around, we probably would have been reasonably satisfied with Gore, and re-elected him, as American voters are reluctant to change presidential parties in the middle of a "hot" war.

And I'll note that a president Gore would have likely pushed to rein in the financial excesses that led to the great recession, which might have meant a smooth transition to Obama instead of the GOP collapse under Shrub that pummeled McCain so badly. So many problems of this current century stem from the shitty way Florida administered its elections with knockoff cheap-brand punch cards.