Poll if you no longer doing apps.

[hntnhole]

12 hours ago, AirmaxUK said:

Support the businesses or we'll lose them

AMEN to that !!!

[AltarOfPleasure]

I too miss bathhouses and BBRT. I use Sniffies and Grindr now.  I find it really matters to take the time to use good pics. It's not about having the best body, but creating appealing images. Rotate often so guys don't get used to your icon.  I know where Im at in NY has more guys, but I still get content loads wherever I go using the apps. In fact it's those early mid 20's guys that like us Daddies.  I think the biggest challenge is to use the platform like the younger guys and that takes effort, but well worth it. I still get multiple loads when I actively use them. Meaning at the GH using Sniffies so nearby guys see someone is there. Grinder has the biggest net just need to filter out the wholesome guys

[SomewhereonNeptune]

17 hours ago, AirmaxUK said:

Support the businesses or we'll lose them.  

On the surface I'd agree. There's a "but" coming.

Several months ago (when it was actually somewhat cold in Orlando), I checked out a couple gay bars in the area. Got to one that will remain nameless but is known for having a maze-like back yard where pretty much anything goes on. Got there, realized I was really low on cash, hit their ATM for $40. Got hit with a $9 ATM Service Fee! WTF!?!? This is just further shittification of LGBTQ businesses when they piss on their punters like that.

(For those who want to know, the fees got more outrageous as you wanted more cash).

I want more local businesses. I'd like it if people supported them. I'd outright love it if they supported us rather than do stupid shit that leaves bad impressions and doesn't engender you to return. In this case, I won't be. 

[AirmaxUK]

5 hours ago, SomewhereonNeptune said:

On the surface I'd agree. There's a "but" coming.

Several months ago (when it was actually somewhat cold in Orlando), I checked out a couple gay bars in the area. Got to one that will remain nameless but is known for having a maze-like back yard where pretty much anything goes on. Got there, realized I was really low on cash, hit their ATM for $40. Got hit with a $9 ATM Service Fee! WTF!?!? This is just further shittification of LGBTQ businesses when they piss on their punters like that.

(For those who want to know, the fees got more outrageous as you wanted more cash).

I want more local businesses. I'd like it if people supported them. I'd outright love it if they supported us rather than do stupid shit that leaves bad impressions and doesn't engender you to return. In this case, I won't be. 

Granted that's not a great experience - maybe things are different in the US, but is it not the ATM provider that imposes and profits from those fees, not the venue where it is located?  Venue owners might not even realise the charges programmed into the machine as they wouldn't use it themselves. 

Apple Watch is my favourite tool for paying for drinks in these kinds of places - no need to carry cash in pockets that might go missing in the darker corners. I can leave my phone in a locker where it is safe and not a distraction.  Many places in Europe you use your cloakroom ticket number as a tab and pay when leaving (electronic or cash).  

[NWUSHorny]

I mostly use them when I travel, and there are definitely places in the world where they work. Where I live about the only thing they've ever been good for is amplifying my sexual frustration, but the same is true for rt cruising there too. 

[allrise]

I still have FB’s I met on bbrt and squirt from years back. nowadays it is mostly trash esp in big cities - fake profiles and time wasters.  One just have to prepared for no-show and not plan too much around potential meet-ups.
Having said that I recently met some guys on bbrt and squirt who came over to my hotel in London and dump their loads, nice. I like these married men away on business and horny to fuck.
In semi-rural areas, they are more genuine - guys giving info which locations good for cruising etc and then offering to show you the way 😁

[PozBearWI]

There really isn't a single good one.  I used to like Scruff but they booted me.  I never found out why; but it wasn't too long after I seroconverted.  I guess I was to keep that a secret???  

Grindr hit or miss.  BBRT sadly almost always a miss.  NKP almost always a miss.  BZ isn't a hookup site so I never approach it that way.  But there isn't anyone I chat with here who I wouldn't gladly enjoy a naked romp with...  

I see some of my fellow poz guys are just outright putting neg.  And honestly I don't see that changes the risk significantly if at all.  PrEP is clearly an option for those who want to avoid HIV, so why is this even a question.  HPV, HSV were never even mentioned.  They were just widely accepted, at least in my circles.  

[SomewhereonNeptune]

10 hours ago, AirmaxUK said:

Granted that's not a great experience - maybe things are different in the US, but is it not the ATM provider that imposes and profits from those fees, not the venue where it is located?  Venue owners might not even realise the charges programmed into the machine as they wouldn't use it themselves. 

Trust me, they know. So the ATM machine is the same kind (probably same provider) that I'd find in any bodega I shopped at in New York, which is a much more expensive place. The most I'd ever pay -- and trust me, I would only use those on very rare occasions -- is about $3-$4 for a fee. Clearly, the ATM owner is placing the machine there, charging the fee, and then making a deal with the venue owner to include an additional fee for them that's just tacked on. 

Keep in mind, this was a cash-only establishment, so they don't want to pay any merchant fees to Visa/Mastercard/American Express/Discover. I can't blame them, it's a total fucking monopoly that just makes money and provides a service for which they could charge probably a third of what they do. And the banks, card issuers, and the lot are in on the scam. So cash-only is fine with me, but gauging the punters for the 'privilege' of convenience to get cash without finding an outside ATM is just mercenary in nature.

[SomewhereonNeptune]

2 hours ago, PozBearWI said:

Grindr hit or miss.  BBRT sadly almost always a miss.  NKP almost always a miss.  BZ isn't a hookup site so I never approach it that way.  But there isn't anyone I chat with here who I wouldn't gladly enjoy a naked romp with...  

So I think I might have a different perspective. NKP has been a large miss for me, more talk than anything concrete. BBRT? That's  iffy but I've made more headway there than elsewhere. Adam4Adam seems to be treated in gay circles as their version of eHarmony, and it yields nothing at all. But I'd say I've had better conversations here that could have more potential for meeting than any of the other four (I totally gave up on Grindr).

2 hours ago, PozBearWI said:

I see some of my fellow poz guys are just outright putting neg.  And honestly I don't see that changes the risk significantly if at all.  

Are you saying that the guys on these sites are falsely saying they're negative but are actually poz? Is this possibly a first step toward stealthing, or just a step to not reveal that until a more detailed conversation occurs? And of those Poz guys, how many of those you know are on meds/undectable versus detectable?

[PozBearWI]

1 hour ago, SomewhereonNeptune said:

So I think I might have a different perspective. NKP has been a large miss for me, more talk than anything concrete. BBRT? That's  iffy but I've made more headway there than elsewhere. Adam4Adam seems to be treated in gay circles as their version of eHarmony, and it yields nothing at all. But I'd say I've had better conversations here that could have more potential for meeting than any of the other four (I totally gave up on Grindr).

Are you saying that the guys on these sites are falsely saying they're negative but are actually poz? Is this possibly a first step toward stealthing, or just a step to not reveal that until a more detailed conversation occurs? And of those Poz guys, how many of those you know are on meds/undectable versus detectable?

I don't know for certain the motivation.  But I know that were I on meds I present less a risk than purportedly "neg" guys who often just don't know.  So why not put 'neg' on PrEP and get hit up more?

[SomewhereonNeptune]

1 hour ago, PozBearWI said:

I don't know for certain the motivation.  But I know that were I on meds I present less a risk than purportedly "neg" guys who often just don't know.  So why not put 'neg' on PrEP and get hit up more?

It's the mystery behind that lack of an answer. Creates a sense of intrigue and danger. 🤣

[Iker80]

Apps are still working for me, but always mixed results. Flaky guys, possibly fake ones, they've always been there. The real guys who want to meet though, it's no trouble, very easily 30-60 minutes from hi to being in person with that kind of guy. One guy was nearby and was about 20 minutes from hi to being nuts deep inside him. I really liked his energy :) Most times, if it's going to happen, it happens quickly with a guy. Long term chat mostly doesn't lead to much - but sometimes it leads to the best meets. I'll do it sometimes if the guy is unavailable for believable reason and I have a good feeling about him. Bi married guys can take longer to meet. I'll also talk a while if a guy is fun to talk with, it's alright sometimes, pics and talking are fun. The thing with an app is you can get to talk longer and I've had some long conversations with guys and really got to know what they like, and discovered we're a great match, and eventually met. I only invest the time in each guy I feel good about, don't go over that or it's not fun any more. And a good meet with a new guy, they happen when they happen, some things can't be made to happen right away.

[badubydo]

Grindr has turned to absolute shit. Way too many scammers. And the amount of ads is asinine. 
 

sniffles is getting close. And limiting the area where you can message people on a “free” account is ridiculous 

[Hole4u]

For me BBRT is kind of petering out. But, still have a decent amount of FBs on there and sometimes can coordinate a hookup or meetup. 
 

I have had limited luck here but that was years ago and was more of a meetup thing like I’m going to be here at x taking loads and two random guys from here came and loaded me. 
 

Sniffies is my go to but limited to when I’m at a theater, cruising site etc. 

 

If I’m out of town for work then sniffies and Grindr can work. But it’s work. 
 

think the biggest problem is back in the day when you were horny and wanted to get off you  went to a place where everyone else is doing the same thing. Now on the apps, people are using them like pornhub and just stroking one out with a little interaction and when the cum, they disappear. 

[muscmtl]

3 hours ago, Iker80 said:

Apps are still working for me, but always mixed results. Flaky guys, possibly fake ones, they've always been there. The real guys who want to meet though, it's no trouble, very easily 30-60 minutes from hi to being in person with that kind of guy. One guy was nearby and was about 20 minutes from hi to being nuts deep inside him. I really liked his energy 🙂 Most times, if it's going to happen, it happens quickly with a guy. Long term chat mostly doesn't lead to much - but sometimes it leads to the best meets. I'll do it sometimes if the guy is unavailable for believable reason and I have a good feeling about him. Bi married guys can take longer to meet. I'll also talk a while if a guy is fun to talk with, it's alright sometimes, pics and talking are fun. The thing with an app is you can get to talk longer and I've had some long conversations with guys and really got to know what they like, and discovered we're a great match, and eventually met. I only invest the time in each guy I feel good about, don't go over that or it's not fun any more. And a good meet with a new guy, they happen when they happen, some things can't be made to happen right away.

Hummmm.. lemme guess, you hot and get cruised a lot.