Language disconnects

[NWUSHorny]

I feel like I've had this same discussion about what constitutes "sex", not just "making love" at gay bathhouses, ABS, and other cruising spots in Portland, Seattle and Vancouver hundreds of times over the years. It's not just a Gen Z thing, I was having it with people here since before they were sexually aware, and probably since before some of them were born.

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[BruxoCub]

I’ve crossed into intimacy with people at bathhouses in moments of lust, but I wouldn’t say I was making love. Every encounter is different, and everyone has their own threshold for what feels too intimate in a hookup. For some men, kissing is off the table; for others, it’s essential.

While both are physical acts, it’s simplistic to treat “making love” as purely innocent intimacy.
Sex is something you do with someone; making love is something you share with someone.

My bathhouse motto tho:
"I'm into havin' sex, I ain't into makin' love"
- 50 Cent - In da Club

[hntnhole]

48 minutes ago, BruxoCub said:

Sex is something you do with someone; making love is something you share with someone.

True, and there is something akin to "making love" when that particular thing, characteristic, whatever, that just turns your crank is present in the other guy. 

For example, I just so happen to adore a hairy hole, for a number of reasons, and while I don't demean 'making love" at all, it's possible to get really close to "making love" when a physical characteristic that really pushes your buttons is present.

[NWUSHorny]

My problem is that I've heard the arguments that holding hands, cuddling up with, making out, doing role play, and numerous other things that do not involve a dick let alone penetration all constitute gay sex. I'm presuming that the guys making those arguments in a bathhouse would say that holding hands is sex and a way to make love.

Edited 26 minutes ago by NWUSHorny