Bottom technique

[PozToxVersPig]

2 minutes ago, NWUSHorny said:

Unfortunately there are both tops and bottoms that can't seem to figure out the physics of how to fuck. I'm pretty adaptable so I can find something that will work with most, but not all guys. Locally I run into a lot of guys that only fuck in one position, typically one that isn't all that comfortable for me either as a top or bottom.

So I think I'm pretty fucking good, but every time I see a thread like this and a comment like "cant seem to figure out the physics" - I then wonder - is there something I am missing that could make me better?  I'm learning all I can about FF to get better, I don't know what I don't know.  So what are they not figuring out that they should?  

Even with my new PA I'm trying to learn as much as I can...and it's not just quantity of experience.  

[Erik62]

6 hours ago, miticax said:

Was looking at some videos and what I've noticed is that bottoms when in doggie they sit mostly still, as in just taking the pumping from the top and no moving against the tops dick or do much.as in just servicing the top and let him control everything.

So mostly for tops the ask is if that's how you like it, or do you want for the bottom to also move, or clench his sphincter as you are pushing?

Not sure on the pattern for other positions, would like to hear your thoughts 

When I'm being fucked doggy & my Top is angry & really ploughing into my cunt, I always try to push back when he is driving forward. The impact has my cunt spasming & gripping his cock tight, until he begins to move back. I remain still when he is just trying to bury his cock deep up into my especially with a large cock. Of course if my Top wants me still, he of course gets exactly what he wants. 

[NWUSHorny]

3 hours ago, PozToxVersPig said:

So I think I'm pretty fucking good, but every time I see a thread like this and a comment like "cant seem to figure out the physics" - I then wonder - is there something I am missing that could make me better?  I'm learning all I can about FF to get better, I don't know what I don't know.  So what are they not figuring out that they should?  

Even with my new PA I'm trying to learn as much as I can...and it's not just quantity of experience.  

Generally it is guys who hold there bodies to stiff, in my opinion you have to at least somewhat have to meld your body to the same shape as your partner, both bottom and top. It can become a bigger problem with height differences for guys who insist on only standing or doggy, I'm 6'2 so I learned long ago how to adjust to make it possible to make it work with significant height differences, but not all guys get it. That said I'm sure I've successfully fucked or been fucked by more than 99% of the guys I've tried with, but some were a lot more enjoyable than others.

[PozToxVersPig]

1 minute ago, NWUSHorny said:

Generally it is guys who hold there bodies to stiff, in my opinion you have to at least somewhat have to meld your body to the same shape as your partner, both bottom and top. It can become a bigger problem with height differences for guys who insist on only standing or doggy, I'm 6'2 so I learned long ago how to adjust to make it possible to make it work with significant height differences, but not all guys get it. That said I'm sure I've successfully fucked or been fucked by more than 99% of the guys I've tried with, but some were a lot more enjoyable than others.

Alright,  I feel like I'm not mnissing any major league knowledge then! 🙂 Cheers to sharing....knowledge 🙂

[PozToxVersPig]

I was doing some AI shit tonight, and I remember this thread, so I thought I'd ask AI what the Top 10 most advanced techniques fgay bottoms should use to please tops. 🙂

• Master Pelvic Floor Control

Train your sphincter and pelvic muscles (via Kegels or anal exercises) to rhythmically squeeze and release around the top's penis. Time contractions with thrusts—tighten on pull-out, relax on push-in—for intense friction that can make tops finish faster and harder.

• Ride Actively in Cowboy/Reverse Cowboy

Take the top position and grind, bounce, or twerk with varied rhythms. Control depth and angle to hit your prostate while giving the top a visual show and relieving their effort—many tops love watching and feeling you take charge.

• Vocal Enthusiasm and Dirty Talk

Moan genuinely, praise the top ("You feel so good inside me," "Harder, own me"), and use possessive or submissive phrases tailored to their kinks. Verbal feedback amplifies their arousal by making them feel desired and powerful.

• Push Back and Meet Thrusts

In doggy or missionary, actively arch your back, push hips backward, or grind in circles to create deeper, more dynamic penetration. This adds intensity without the top doing all the work, turning passive receiving into collaborative fucking.

• Incorporate Nipple Play or Body Worship

While being penetrated, reach back/up to tease the top's nipples, chest, or neck—pinch, twist, or lick. Combine with kissing, biting their shoulder, or running hands over their body to stimulate multiple erogenous zones simultaneously.

• Experiment with Friction and Lube Play

For experienced sessions, use slightly less lube temporarily for tighter sensation (reapply as needed to avoid discomfort). Or switch to silicone lube for longer-lasting slickness, allowing extended pounding that builds overwhelming pleasure for the top.

• Prostate-Focused Angle Guidance

Direct the top to angles that indirectly stimulate you more (e.g., legs up in missionary), leading to involuntary muscle spasms or hands-free orgasms. Your heightened reactions (clenching, moaning) transfer intense feedback to them.

• Edging and Pace Control

Signal or guide the top to slow down near climax, then ramp up—clench deliberately during edges. This prolongs sessions and builds to explosive finishes, making the eventual release feel mind-blowing for both.

• Multi-Sensory Teasing

Use essential oils for massages pre-sex, bite/collarbone play, or light scratching during thrusts. Add spontaneity like sudden role switches or trash talk to keep energy high and unpredictable.

Post-Nut Intimacy or Round Two Tease

• After the top finishes, keep them inside while clenching softly, cuddle aggressively, or whisper about wanting more. This extends the afterglow and often leads to quicker, more intense second rounds—tops love feeling irresistibly wanted

Every top has unique turn-ons, so ask what drives them wild and adapt. Practice solo with toys to refine skills like muscle control. With experience, these can turn good sex into unforgettable. Stay safe and have fun!

[NordicBtm]

25 minutes ago, PozToxVersPig said:

I was doing some AI shit tonight, and I remember this thread, so I thought I'd ask AI what the Top 10 most advanced techniques fgay bottoms should use to please tops. 🙂

• Master Pelvic Floor Control

Train your sphincter and pelvic muscles (via Kegels or anal exercises) to rhythmically squeeze and release around the top's penis. Time contractions with thrusts—tighten on pull-out, relax on push-in—for intense friction that can make tops finish faster and harder.

• Ride Actively in Cowboy/Reverse Cowboy

Take the top position and grind, bounce, or twerk with varied rhythms. Control depth and angle to hit your prostate while giving the top a visual show and relieving their effort—many tops love watching and feeling you take charge.

• Vocal Enthusiasm and Dirty Talk

Moan genuinely, praise the top ("You feel so good inside me," "Harder, own me"), and use possessive or submissive phrases tailored to their kinks. Verbal feedback amplifies their arousal by making them feel desired and powerful.

• Push Back and Meet Thrusts

In doggy or missionary, actively arch your back, push hips backward, or grind in circles to create deeper, more dynamic penetration. This adds intensity without the top doing all the work, turning passive receiving into collaborative fucking.

• Incorporate Nipple Play or Body Worship

While being penetrated, reach back/up to tease the top's nipples, chest, or neck—pinch, twist, or lick. Combine with kissing, biting their shoulder, or running hands over their body to stimulate multiple erogenous zones simultaneously.

• Experiment with Friction and Lube Play

For experienced sessions, use slightly less lube temporarily for tighter sensation (reapply as needed to avoid discomfort). Or switch to silicone lube for longer-lasting slickness, allowing extended pounding that builds overwhelming pleasure for the top.

• Prostate-Focused Angle Guidance

Direct the top to angles that indirectly stimulate you more (e.g., legs up in missionary), leading to involuntary muscle spasms or hands-free orgasms. Your heightened reactions (clenching, moaning) transfer intense feedback to them.

• Edging and Pace Control

Signal or guide the top to slow down near climax, then ramp up—clench deliberately during edges. This prolongs sessions and builds to explosive finishes, making the eventual release feel mind-blowing for both.

• Multi-Sensory Teasing

Use essential oils for massages pre-sex, bite/collarbone play, or light scratching during thrusts. Add spontaneity like sudden role switches or trash talk to keep energy high and unpredictable.

Post-Nut Intimacy or Round Two Tease

• After the top finishes, keep them inside while clenching softly, cuddle aggressively, or whisper about wanting more. This extends the afterglow and often leads to quicker, more intense second rounds—tops love feeling irresistibly wanted

Every top has unique turn-ons, so ask what drives them wild and adapt. Practice solo with toys to refine skills like muscle control. With experience, these can turn good sex into unforgettable. Stay safe and have fun!

Surprisingly accurate, I noticed I do almost all of those things frequently. Clenching on out strokes, verbal feedback, and trying to meet thrusts when appropriate. Though here you should remind ChatGPT that the bottom should read the tops guidance on staying still or moving to avoid the situations discussed where the top just wants to take control (for example doggy), otherwise great summary!

[Bokkierob]

There’s no right answer, only personal preferences. When I’m fucking doggy I need to control my sub so I prefer him to stay quite still. Having said that I’ve fucked so many different men, each with their own preferences and I’m proud to say I’ve seeded every one of them. When I’m fucking Drew doggy I lock him into my rhythm - I put my arm around his neck and pull him tightly into me. With each thrust I slam into his arse he pushes back to meet my cock and when I’m shooting my load he knows to push back hard until I’ve drained my balls inside him.

[theplayerking]

When fucking doggy I want the bottom to arch his back and not pull away (or push his ass back on my dick slightly as I’m thrusting). 

Edited yesterday at 04:02 PM by theplayerking

[edward21uk]

When a Bottom, I just take all the direction - hard verbal or slapping - from the breeding Top. He'll get what he wants.

Mouth closed and ears open and listen. Hole up and open, knees bent, face down and groan for Him. 

And say thank-you after He's loaded you hole, and suck his meat clean. It's just being polite.

[edward21uk]

6 hours ago, Bokkierob said:

There’s no right answer, only personal preferences. When I’m fucking doggy I need to control my sub so I prefer him to stay quite still. Having said that I’ve fucked so many different men, each with their own preferences and I’m proud to say I’ve seeded every one of them. When I’m fucking Drew doggy I lock him into my rhythm - I put my arm around his neck and pull him tightly into me. With each thrust I slam into his arse he pushes back to meet my cock and when I’m shooting my load he knows to push back hard until I’ve drained my balls inside him.

I think I need to be on the end of your cock so you can show me 🤔 HMU (In London too). 

[NWUSHorny]

10 hours ago, PozToxVersPig said:

I was doing some AI shit tonight, and I remember this thread, so I thought I'd ask AI what the Top 10 most advanced techniques fgay bottoms should use to please tops. 🙂

• Master Pelvic Floor Control

Train your sphincter and pelvic muscles (via Kegels or anal exercises) to rhythmically squeeze and release around the top's penis. Time contractions with thrusts—tighten on pull-out, relax on push-in—for intense friction that can make tops finish faster and harder.

• Ride Actively in Cowboy/Reverse Cowboy

Take the top position and grind, bounce, or twerk with varied rhythms. Control depth and angle to hit your prostate while giving the top a visual show and relieving their effort—many tops love watching and feeling you take charge.

• Vocal Enthusiasm and Dirty Talk

Moan genuinely, praise the top ("You feel so good inside me," "Harder, own me"), and use possessive or submissive phrases tailored to their kinks. Verbal feedback amplifies their arousal by making them feel desired and powerful.

• Push Back and Meet Thrusts

In doggy or missionary, actively arch your back, push hips backward, or grind in circles to create deeper, more dynamic penetration. This adds intensity without the top doing all the work, turning passive receiving into collaborative fucking.

• Incorporate Nipple Play or Body Worship

While being penetrated, reach back/up to tease the top's nipples, chest, or neck—pinch, twist, or lick. Combine with kissing, biting their shoulder, or running hands over their body to stimulate multiple erogenous zones simultaneously.

• Experiment with Friction and Lube Play

For experienced sessions, use slightly less lube temporarily for tighter sensation (reapply as needed to avoid discomfort). Or switch to silicone lube for longer-lasting slickness, allowing extended pounding that builds overwhelming pleasure for the top.

• Prostate-Focused Angle Guidance

Direct the top to angles that indirectly stimulate you more (e.g., legs up in missionary), leading to involuntary muscle spasms or hands-free orgasms. Your heightened reactions (clenching, moaning) transfer intense feedback to them.

• Edging and Pace Control

Signal or guide the top to slow down near climax, then ramp up—clench deliberately during edges. This prolongs sessions and builds to explosive finishes, making the eventual release feel mind-blowing for both.

• Multi-Sensory Teasing

Use essential oils for massages pre-sex, bite/collarbone play, or light scratching during thrusts. Add spontaneity like sudden role switches or trash talk to keep energy high and unpredictable.

Post-Nut Intimacy or Round Two Tease

• After the top finishes, keep them inside while clenching softly, cuddle aggressively, or whisper about wanting more. This extends the afterglow and often leads to quicker, more intense second rounds—tops love feeling irresistibly wanted

Every top has unique turn-ons, so ask what drives them wild and adapt. Practice solo with toys to refine skills like muscle control. With experience, these can turn good sex into unforgettable. Stay safe and have fun!

I've been doing 9 out of 10 of these as long as I've been getting fucked.

Don't even think of coming near me with essential oil that shit stinks and I have had allergic reactions to some of them. 19 years in the PNW where way too many guys consider massage to be the main entree has left me extremely adverse to massage, so if you want to incorporate massage, one of us better have a dick in our ass at the same time.

[PozToxVersPig]

Just now, NWUSHorny said:

I've been doing 9 out of 10 of these as long as I've been getting fucked.

Don't even think of coming near me with essential oil that shit stinks and I have had allergic reactions to some of them. 19 years in the PNW where way too many guys consider massage to be the main entree has left me extremely adverse to massage, so if you want to incorporate massage, one of us better have a dick in our ass at the same time.

I'm from PNW (Seattle) as well.  Too much oils, incense, etc.  And old school Birkenstocks - the types with the cork bottoms 🙂
I NEVER understood "massage" as a catalyst for sex.  It's a catalyst for a nap.

[NWUSHorny]

18 minutes ago, PozToxVersPig said:

I'm from PNW (Seattle) as well.  Too much oils, incense, etc.  And old school Birkenstocks - the types with the cork bottoms 🙂
I NEVER understood "massage" as a catalyst for sex.  It's a catalyst for a nap.

There are a lot of "sexual practices" in the PNW that this native Midwesterner finds less than stimulating. I did get to spend 9 years in fuck pig heaven when I lived in Denver, so I envy your access to the kind action I love.

Edited yesterday at 06:51 PM by NWUSHorny

[PozToxVersPig]

4 minutes ago, NWUSHorny said:

There are a lot of "sexual practices" in the PNW that this native Midwesterner finds less than stimulating. I did get to spend 9 years in fuck pig heaven when I lived in Denver, so I envy your access to the kind action I love.

DM if you'd like to share, I'm curious about what those sexual practices were.  Seattle born and raised and from 15 to 35 (minus 4 years during college) very sexually active in the PNW.  I don't know if I had an impression of it being so different, but I was also on the fringe.  I suppose the one pattern was that even the sluts tended to pair off in winter for the dark months...

[tobetrained]

11 hours ago, PozToxVersPig said:

• Master Pelvic Floor Control

Train your sphincter and pelvic muscles (via Kegels or anal exercises) to rhythmically squeeze and release around the top's penis. Time contractions with thrusts—tighten on pull-out, relax on push-in—for intense friction that can make tops finish faster and harder.

I've literally been yelled at for NOT doing the opposite! -- and, yes, I started laughing and left.

There's technique but also communication... not "feelings" but "this is how I like it." I'm generally happy to accommodate with reasonable communication. One guy needed me to stay almost perfectly still -- and we played for more than 8 hours at a time.

To @NordicBtm's point: "My big issue is though that many tops will pound very hard without gripping the hips properly so either you use a bunch of muscle to counter that (fine for a few minutes) or his falls out of your hole because he slammed into you and pushed himself out. Super frustrating when tops don’t get this basic fact of physics"

Don't get me started on hip grabbing. But you did. So, I'll calm down first. ... ... ... I'm happy to do anything, but when a top won't position in doggie -- meaning the btm has to with no line of sight -- when he can just position you with a quick touch, batty. Drives me batty. I'm fit enough to hold most positions but I can't divine them.

I don't know if this is more an issue now as men have become so much more passive....or, if I've just lost patience as I've gotten older. ...hmmm.