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"this was after 01/21 so I guess there are even less chances for me to be neg" Especially if you have been topping, even without PEP or PrEP the odds are still quite good that you will be negative. If these people have been long-time poz, they might well be negative or have low viral loads.

I like fucking bareback, but I also like fucking with condoms. Saturday, actually, I had the chance to direct compare the two practices while I was at Steamworks here in Toronto. I spent the first part of my visit playing with a variety of people, including fucking people with condoms. I noticed less sensation with condoms as a top, but not much less sensation. I still enjoyed myself. The second part of my visit was spent playing with one of the two guys I fuck bareback on a regular basis, an undetectable guy. We fucked each other in any number of positions, me topping and bottoming until I ended up shooting into him. That did feel better, but that related not so much mainly to the physical sensations as to doing something hot with someone I like.

I have had sex in semi-public spaces like sex clubs and bathhouses before, but only recently has some of this sex been bareback. Being witnessed having fun sex is nice regardless of whether or not there's a condom involved. From my perspective, the only difference between this public sex being with condoms and being bareback is that the latter is more transgressive, perhaps a bit more teasing: I won't be doing bareback with anyone but the guy I'm doing it with.

In my particular case, I began experimenting with bareback sex late last year. I'd had no problem following safer sex requirements, including condom usage, up to that point. One long-term partner I'd been fisting for years had begun suggesting to me that I might want to begin fucking him, too. He did not like using condoms, did know of my HIV-negative status, and suggested, on the basis of his own undetectability and the PARTNER study, that I might want to begin barebacking him. It took me some convincing, but I ended up fucking him, first doing just-the-tip then doing full-on fucking. It was a bit of a head trip for me, but eventually bareback fucking became a routine. The other person is also someone I've known for a while, an older daddy who was out about his HIV undetectability. We had been fucking with condoms for a while, but then we began fucking with condoms. First it was me fucking him, then it was him fucking me as well. We've talked about things and set boundaries--I can cum in him, he won't cum in me--and I think things will continue for the time being. No, I'm not on PrEP. Yes, I would like very much to be on PrEP. No, I don't think I'm having unsafe sex, in that HIV transmissions from long-term undetectable people are exceptionally rare and that I trust these two people to be honest to me. Can I see myself barebacking more? Maybe, if PrEP was available to me. For the time being, I'm comfortable in engaging in condomless sex with people I know well, as a sign of trust and intimacy. With other people, I'm quite happy to use condoms.

Sunday night, I went over the other the leather daddy's place. After a drink, we stripped down to our jockstraps, and began playing in his bedroom. The sex was superb. I began by entering him slowly as he lay back on the bed, kissing each other, but we then switched. He went on to fuck me superbly in any number of positions, his thick and curved dick entering me deeply. I also played with his hole, fucking him and then fisting him. We each eventually came, jacking ourselves off as each played with the other's ass.

Saturday night, I went over to my fisting friend's place. We had a lot of fun messing around: I fucked him for a bit, standing up at his living room table, then we went up to his sling where I fisted and fucked him. He has a superb ass, and I loved exploring it.

Sunday afternoon, I was playing at Roughhouse. It was my first time spending any time there: I had once gone briefly a couple of years ago but dipped away before anything happened. This time, I met up with some other people I knew already, including the daddy I'd fucked bare for a good chunk of the afternoon. I had plenty of fun with different people, sucking off one guy into leather, flipflopping other people with condoms, and playing with the daddy bare. I really liked lying back in the sling and giving the daddy my bare hole to fuck at length, until he pulled out to shoot on my crotch.

I had not anticipated developments like PrEP and TasP, at least. That the state of the medicine would advance enough that we could take a pill to ward off HIV infection if we had bareback sex--that I could have unprotected sex with someone HIV-positive and have an exceptionally low chance of contracting the virus, if he's undetectable--is astonishing.

I go regularly. I have since I moved to Toronto a decade ago. For the record, I also have consistently used condoms, with the exception of one time, maybe two, when I was stealthed. This particular guy, though, I've known him for a year. I trust him, and I've confidence in the relevant science. Plus, this sex was spectacular.

I've progressed a fair bit since the post I made last year about topping bare my undetectable poz fisting partner. https://breeding.zone/topic/30071-should-i-have-unprotected-sex-with-an-undetectable-poz-fisting-partner/ Now, I regularly top him, bareback. (I've occasionally bottomed for him bareback, but only briefly, never close to the point of orgasm.) I've also ended up cultivating something very hot, and again bareback, with another undetectable poz guy, a handsome older leather daddy. I wrote about our last encounter this Sunday past in the "Your Last Load" forum. https://breeding.zone/topic/34645-a-sling-in-the-afternoon-at-steamworks/ That's it; that's all the barebacking I'm doing. I'm consistently using condoms with other people, whether ones I know or don't know. I've no intention of changing this, unless I manage to get onto PrEP. (Maybe.) I trust the two guys--both are open about their status, both are guys I've known for a while, the daddy for a year and the fisting guy for four years. It's possible that they're misleading me, but I don't think I'm such a poor judge of character as to miss that. It's possible, I suppose, that they are mistaken, but both are on top. Knowing their status, and perhaps also knowing what I've done, I don't think I've particular reason to think I've become HIV positive, It's still a possibility, I suppose, through these two guys or other people, that I've become HIV-positive. I'm not looking forward to my HIV test for that reason, but unless I've made a huge miscalculation I expect I won't be. The science of TaSP is sound, I trust these guys, and so I don't think I've anything to fear. Does this make sense to you guys?

I had a spectacular session at Steamworks here in Toronto on Sunday. This past year has been one of experimentation. I started to bareback with a long-time fisting partner, someone undetectable. I've also had an on-and-off thing going with a late 50s leather daddy I met at Steamworks. We clicked on a lot of levels: I like smart, well-built kinky people, maybe especially if they're older than me, and I definitely like it when they like me. We had a lot of fun, the issue of our different sero-statuses not coming into play (I'm HIV-negative as of my last test, he's undetectable). Our most recent time together solo, after having talked with him about his status, I ended up topping him bareback and cumming in his hole. We since got together briefly when some of his friends visited town, but we hadn't gotten to spend much time together. I ended getting the best handjob of my life from one friend, and flipflopped, with condoms, with an energetic muscular mustached guy with a thick and pierced seven inches. I gave him almost as good as I got with my own dick, thick and just under six inches. By the time I got back to the daddy, he had already cum. Saturday, I got a message from the daddy on Recon mentioning that he was going to have some time free at Steamworks Sunday afternoon. Would I come? That was hardly a question that needed to be asked. Some prepping and a frustrating bus trip later, I made it to his sling room just after he finished being fucked by a condomed guy. The daddy greeted me with one of his wonderful kisses. We stood in the room kissing for long moments. He's a very oral man, with a wonderful tongue, and great skill at using it. We swapped blow jobs, me happily kneeling by his booted feet as I swallowed his thick six inches, he reciprocating. Eventually, he leaned back onto the sling. I approached, ate his ass, made sure I had lube, and slid in, no condom. I'm not perfect at sex by any means, but one thing I am good at is lasting long. I enjoy sex as a top--perhaps especially as a bareback top--but I just find it very difficult to cum while topping. I usually need to cum as a bottom, or while I'm jacking off. This means I can last a very long time while fucking. This happened on this occasion. I had a nice leisurely fuck, watching my dick go in and out of him and watching him lying back. I leaned over to kiss him, I held his balls and jacked his hard dick, I tweaked his nipples, I pulled out to east his ass, we talked dirty to each other, and I just kept fucking him. We left the door open part of the time, letting people in to watch. Once, I briefly swapped places with an onlooker who also entered the daddy without a condom. I did also get fucked bareback by him. The daddy was only the second person to fuck me without a condom. He did not fuck me for long, but I definitely felt it. His dick felt good entering me, entering me more easily than the times he had fucked me with a condom. We didn't last long, me sliding off the sling to swallow him whole before we returned to me fucking him. Eventually, we stopped to take a break. The daddy took a nap, I cleaned out again and waited. The next bout of fucking was great. We began with him fucking me for a bit in the sling, but then we switched. I fucked him as we were standing profile-on against the mirror, the daddy leaning forward and moaning as I plunged back and forth into him. We then switched back to the sling, when after he fucked me for a bit I ended up switching. We resumed the same as before, consistent fucking with variations. This time differed in that we kept the door open earlier, and we had many more guests coming in to look. A couple of them wanted me to fuck them, too, but I was committed to fucking the daddy. One of them fingered me for a bit as I fucked, which was nice. Another might have wanted to fuck me as well, but without a condom that was not going to happen. In the end, we ended up fucking for hours. The daddy was too worn out to come, but I was just barely able to shoot in his hole after he fingered me. We both loved the fuck.

This is your choice, but you should be aware that while you did engage in relatively higher-risk activities than topping with a condom, your risk i not nearly that high. Aidsmap has a good list of the possibilities. http://www.aidsmap.com/Estimated-risk-per-exposure/page/1324038/ Even if all of the half-dozen or so encounters you had were with people who were HIV-positive and not on medication, the odds would be very greatly against you being infected. I would say it was substantially more likely that your partners were either HIV-negative themselves or perhaps HIV-positive and on medication, knocking the chances down even further.

I can't wait for the next part.

Has anyone heard anything about the progress of PReP in Canada? I know that Québec has put the treatment on its subsidized drug plan, but has there been progress elsewhere?

Hello! Back in September, I made a post (https://breeding.zone/topic/30071-should-i-have-unprotected-sex-with-an-undetectable-poz-fisting-partner/) talking about an undetectable poz fisting partner who was suggesting I might want to play bare with him. I'd go on PReP if it was on offer locally, but it isn't owing to gaps in public health coverage, and the discussion surrounded my decision-making process. Should I? Shouldn't I? Well, we finally did it. We talked about it again, and in the middle of an extended fisting session I ended up topping him bareback. (He also ended up tapping at my back door, though I don't think he did more than just-the-tip.) Inside, it felt rather nice and warm. So. I've done it once. Should I keep doing it?

I've seen plenty of condomless sex at the local Steamworks, and I think I could make the argument based on my observations that it has become more common over time. I've also had plenty of sex with condoms at the local Steamworks. I've only had sex with condoms, by choice, and I have been turned down on only a few occasions because of my preference for condoms. (I was stealthed by one person, but I picked up on it early.) Bathhouses certainly make it possible to have sex quite easily. If one chooses, one can have this sex be bareback sex. One does not have to make this choice, however.

Update time! Last Saturday night I played with him. I topped him while fisting a few times, managing to get deeper. I also played just-the-tip with him. We did chat about his status. He reports being undetectable for eight years, mentioning a non-resident partner who fucked him bareback for six of those years without converting. Fucking isn't essential to him, but he thinks it could add something interesting. No other STDs. I'm not sure still how I feel about it. Doing this is a big step for me. I'm inclined to think that it might not be bad to try it out, but I still have some thinking to do.

"I think my biggest issue here is that it seems like you have some sort of feelings for the guy. And because you havent really had bareback sex before, you need to be okay with the idea of becoming HIV+ " I'm not comfortable with that, though. I've had plenty of sex with HIV-positive people before, including getting fucked by HIV-positive people. The issue for me is getting fucked without protection, specifically without taking protection at my end. Up to this point, protection has overwhelmingly involved condom use, with an interval of unprotected sex with someone HIV-negative I've trusted. "No one can really tell you what to do here, if you are comfortable with it, go for it, if not, don't. It should also be said though if you are going to top him, its really low risk, him topping you after fisting you.. thats quite a bit higher." Him topping me might well be a possibility. I've no reason to think he's a total bottom, and I know that I'm certainly not a total top! There was one time while I was lying in the swing when he would have if I gave the co-ahead, and whenever I've taken a fist it has been after being fucked first.

Speaking about specific sex acts, if HIV wasn't a concern I wouldn't mind first fucking him then fisting him. A fantasy of jacking off inside him might be pretty fun to realize. Asking what he means by undetectable, what threshold he's talking about, might be a good idea. Or not?

Hi! Long-time lurker, here. Many of the stories here are quite hot, but I don't bareback in my personal life. Of my many sexual partners, I've willingly had unprotected sex only a couple of times with a long-time partner. (A couple of guys slipped it into me when I was bottoming without asking, luckily without anything happening.) For the past three years, I've been involved on and off with one particular guy. An experienced fister, I met him on Recon when I started looking. Since then, we've had fun, although he's much more successful at bottoming (and how!) than I am. Besides fisting, oral sex and rimming have been on the menu, along with unshared toys. I've known that he was poz from our first chat. That didn't bother me. I'm aware of how HIV is transmitted, and how it is not transmitted, and I haven't done anything with him that would be likely to transmit it. He is only into bareback fucking, I'm not, and that's that. Recently, he has suggested to me that I might want to fuck bareback with him, on account of his undetectable HIV status. I am familiar with the research strongly suggesting that unprotected sex with a person whose HIV is well under control is as safe, at least from the perspective of HIV prevention, as protected sex with a person of unknown HIV status. Assuming that he's accurate--I have no reason to believe he is lying--I could have extra fun with him. I'm not sure at all about this, though. Part of it has to do with my lack of any protection. I'd have no problem with going on PReP, but unfortunately PReP is not covered in Ontario by medicare and I do not have an extra 800 dollars a month to spend. I also wonder if there are some questions I should be asking him, the better to be as sure as possible about my safety, and if I should be asking him these questions. Ultimately, I have sex to relax and to have fun. Among other things, I do not want my sex with anyone to be stressful, never mind risky. Thoughts?