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Yeah, I would be into it for sure.

I think if the size and stiffness can be maintained, then it's all good. Just ads to the no half-measures, no compromises sex we're entitled to.

I do. But it's damn hard. And getting hard all the time, seems.

Wow! Sounds pretty heavy-duty. To each his own, certainly. Just, glad I've not been in any scene like that.

Ok. That's a fun fantasy, but for that to sound "natural" as you put it, a person would have to actually talk like that all the time - syntax, grammar, vocabulary, the whole enchilada. And who does? Really? Deranged, porno-obsessed, axe murderers?

My experience of these kinds of groups is that assuming you can get one together (no easy task), then the structure that the group forms, once settled, is a very unstable one. The casual "friends" begin to see each other outside of the group in rather more intimate surroundings and in smaller numbers, usually even numbers. Two being a popular even number for this sort of thing. Get where this is going? The couples that form because group members went out to date, are themselves often unstable. One partner invariably wants the new couple to withdraw from the group sexcapades - which they do. But then the other partner usually ends up sneaking back because he likes it more than home life, or because he leans a little more top, and the group pressures / guilts him into it. Eventually the less orgy oriented partner finds out about his BF's sneaking - they always do. This leads to major drama in the group, both at orgy time and otherwise. Group members will like one or the other of the now former couple. Maybe they were friends before the group with this one or his ex. Either way, the group splits along lines of allegiance.... orgies become very awkward and tense. There might even be a fist fight or two.... and I'm not talking about the homo erotic type some people might be conjuring in their minds right now. It gets so bad the members start dropping away very rapidly and the group dissolves.

I love the way you think! Please teach me! :-) (humbly at your feet)

That last paragraph is FUCKING hot!

losttop, First let me say, you did the right thing consulting friends, family, and even total strangers on the Internet. I do the very same thing. In my experience, eliciting the snap decisions and distance judgments of people who know little to nothing about the object of your choice, or you, or even both is absolutely the finest way to make a reasoned informed decision. In fact, the value of the fickle consensus of the "herd" as a deciding criteria increases as the importance of your choice increases. Use this simple comparator to see what I mean: Choice to be made | Importance of the opinions of the uninformed ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The latest fashions (makes me look fat yes/no) | Very important Haircut (Need I say more?) | Super very important Life partner (thumbs up/down) | Vital. Don't make a move without this input Second, who knows better you and your partner; your inner-most thoughts, intentions, and aspirations alone and together, especially in the private moments when things are not looking so good, or one of you is in great need? Arms-length parties and total strangers, of course! Certainly, not you or your partner. It was wise of you to remove the both of you from the making of this decision. You would have almost certainly chosen incorrectly. Don't' trust yourself. That's the motto here. Third, Bravo for moving immediately to another city. Nothing helps to cement in yours and others' minds the correctness of well considered decision than great distance and the enormous trouble and expense it adds to any foolish attempt to reconsider. Another way to look at this is to realize what you have done is a time honored combat tactic. It's called "retreat". But, you have enhanced this old trick with the brilliance of a of master such as Stalin by compounding your partner's experience of the break-up with the emotional impact of the suddenness (or secret forethought, you didn't' specify) of your departure. That will teach him! This is more than simply the retreat tactic; it is the Scorched Earth Strategy. Way to go for thinking strategically in your relationship! As we all know, love is war, and if you don't win you loose. Last point, For Crying Out Load - don't listen to me or anyone else on here! Please, slow down. Stop scorching and moving, and asking anyone who can speak or type their opinion, and get to a professional. Build trust with that person so that you are able to share freely and unreservedly what is really going on for you. If you aren't getting that with the professional you find at first - find another. When you find someone who "gets" you - and you know what I mean by that, I think - then put stock in that person's opinion. My guess is, he or she will, help you to build up a sense of trusting in yourself, then turn the tables, and show you that yours is the only opinion that will ever matter.

That has got to be the hottest fuckin video I have EVER seen!

I doubt I can speak for the whole lifestyle, but I will back you up on that. I for one, despite any fantasy, want to live to a ripe OLD age.

Sometimes a test for total (or free) testosterone level is not revealing. Make sure your doc also tests for SHBG.

If he's the one initiating those more piggy things, then it sounds like you are being invited to push the envelope - that much you know already. As to how far....maybe in your role play no doesn't always mean no and that's the limit pushing aspect, I don't know. But ask yourself this - if he said no and REALLY meant it, would you know the difference? If so, then the two of you share kind of trust that let's you just start pushing until you hear that no - then back off a tiny bit. It may not be "no" forever - as even more trust grows between you in time.

Hot. One lucky bf!

Me too. Get's me going like nothin else