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If this small sampling is representative of the population of Poz men in general, those results are sobering. Either they represent a radical increase in the spread of HIV, and a failure of control efforts, in the last decade, or they represent a grim picture of pre-ART mortality.

If you remember the 1976 sci-fi film Logan’s Run, you may recall a scene in which Logan is in his room turning a rotating selection of people available for casual intimate contact. The concept actually predicted Tinder by decades, because he was literally swiping the selection to the side to visually reject candidates he didn’t want. The surprise comes when he makes his choice and the person actually steps out of the life-size frame into his room - what he has been turning is in fact essentially a carousel of people who have put themselves in the slots to make themselves available as potential hookups. Just imagine - the convenience of the apps combined with the immediacy of cruising. No flaking, no ghosting, no games; you don’t get on the carousel unless you’re actually DTF, and you don’t pull someone off the carousel unless likewise. My question is, would you rather be riding the carousel, or turning it? I would be a rider, every time. I probably wouldn’t be the most frequently selected, and would probably have to deal with being ‘swiped’ more often than not, but I am inspired to by best sexual service by a man who indicates that he wants me. How about you? Rider or Turner?

HAL, I’ve been alone in space for three months and I really need to nut. Show me some hot porn. I’M SORRY, DAVE, I’M AFRAID I CAN’T DO THAT.

To make a high-quality portrait of them when they were young…doing what? I ask only because the other uses you’ve been practicing have a particular context…in which case, to get the desired result, it might be necessary to add terms like ‘getting frisky’ or ‘canoodling’…

I’m sorry to have to tell you that if you have to ask for ideas about how to dominate a submissive, you are not the person who should be doing this. The experience will almost certainly be a disappointing for him at some level. At worst, it could be risky. The Domination/submission dynamic works when it works because two symbiotic psychologies enhance one another; the Dominant has an inner drive and desire to control, while the submissive has an inner need to feel powerless. If either drive is absent, the other drive has only its own energy to draw from, and it is seldom enough. You are clearly not a Dominant, or you would know how to make this submissive feel used and owned without asking, and would relish the thought. You are also obviously not yourself a submissive, because if you were, you would have an innate understanding of what would make this submissive feel used and owned, and would not need to ask. In my (considerable) experience, attempts by non-BDSM practitioners (referred to in the lifestyle as ‘vanillas’) to scene with those in the subculture rarely go well. The BDSM person can meet the vanilla on vanilla terms well enough, and have an acceptable non-BDSM scene, but it doesn’t work the other way. If you have an interest in BDSM but are not experienced in it, I strongly recommend that you observe some scenes, and then participate at an entry level, before trying to organize anything, let alone set up a bespoke scene for an individual. There are all manner of things that could go pear-shaped if you lure BDSM players to a scene knowing nothing about the standards, expectations, codes, and variations of practice (myriad) that they could bring with them, and if you can’t spell out, will assume. A submissive is not just a bottom, and ‘subspace’ is a very real state of mind that a submissive can enter, and seeks too enter. When in that state, the submissive is acutely vulnerable, and inexperienced players can cause harm, and fail to provide the requisite aftercare. If you are inexperienced, on no account should you place, or allow anyone to place, the submissive in bondage of any kind, for any duration whatsoever. I urge you to consider whether you have the experience to provide the scene you propose, or whether it might be better to offer a more mainstream experience, at least until you have had a chance to become initiated into the lifestyle.

Indeed, and even if information is edited or an account is deleted, that doesn’t necessarily remove material that others may have quoted in their own posts. Once you post, it’s sort of like pissing in a pond - good luck getting all your piss back out. Which makes me think of the perpetually inebriated W.C. Fields, who once explained that he never drank water because fish fuck in it.

One other note for persons finding themselves compromised because people they did not intend have become aware of their account - if the really compromising material is images you’ve posted, or specific revealing information in certain posts, it’s possible for the Moderators to remove or edit out that content without going to the extreme of an account deletion. It’s not convenient for them, so I wouldn’t make a habit of it, but they’re generally agreeable about assisting in crisis situations, and it usually doesn’t take the extended waiting period an account deletion requires because of the considerable time required for that procedure, and the backlog the site owner has to work through. If you do elect to contact a Moderator for content removal or editing, be prepared to direct him to the specific posts/images in question. Don’t say, ‘Please remove all my posts where I unwisely used my real name’ or ‘Please edit out all instances of my phone number’. They don’t have the time or inclination to read through your whole body of posts to hunt down every instance. And I don’t know if there’s a means to delete all the images you attached to posts at once, but I doubt it, so be prepared to specify the post and the image you want removed. Don’t make them hunt for it. As to images you may have uploaded to the Gallery, or to a personal Album, you can delete those yourself. You can delete an entire album by going to your profile, clicking the Albums tab, selecting the album you want, clicking the ‘Manage Album’ button, and choosing ‘Delete Album’. A similar process works for individual images. Don’t wipe them and then harass the Moderators to un-wipe them - they’re Mods, not magicians.

It cannot be repeated often enough that an account here is only anonymous if the user exercises discretion in the information he reveals. It takes astonishingly little specific information to identify a person with an internet search. If you post, for instance, an actual phone number associated with your regular identity, a searcher can in short order determine your full name and address, and with that information can go on to unearth much else about you that may be online - which, if you’re a social media over-sharer, could be a fuckton of information. If a man posts here that he is a cum-guzzling faggot, he had better be prepared to own that statement at some point, because Breedingzone is not a secret hideout - it’s a public place, visible to anyone who types the URL, and searchable by anyone who can use Google. Don’t believe me? Go to Google and type ‘Breedingzone’ and your username, and hit enter. In fact, you might try just Googling your username and seeing what materializes. (Might want to make sure you’re sitting down first.) If someone, someday, confronts me with my identity here - and God knows I’ve described it in detail - my response will be to shrug and say, “So?” You can’t blackmail me with it (so much for that fantasy) because I was prepared for the worst when I hit ‘send’. But I’m not looking for trouble, either - I don’t post information about my real identity so obvious that it can be seen from space. Will greater discretion, perhaps there will be less call for account deletion.

There are three different ‘neighbors’ mentioned in the thread, but we are not actually dealing with this question at all - this is a necro thread started two years ago, and everybody now giving the OP advice on what to do is wasting their time. The train has left the station. It’s not even as though the advice is particularly useful in a sense of what to do in a similar situation, because the situation described is so specific and unusual. The OP might, however, consider replying to the thread an informing the group about his ultimate decision at the time, and any result.

Do you think it all would have followed the same trajectory if he hadn’t actually touched you that first time? Or if there hadn’t been others watching? Not to suggest that you wouldn’t then have been into guys, I just wonder if thoughts of the guy and the incident would have persisted with you.

One handy tip for charging while cumdumping in el cheap-o motels - sometimes you’ll get into the room and discover that there’s no electrical outlet anywhere near the bed. What’s usually happened is that the head of the bed butts up against a single outlet on the walk somewhere around its middle, and the cords for both bedside lamps are run behind the bed and plugged in out of sight. You can try to pull the mattress out a bit, find the outlet, and swap your charger for one of the lamp plugs. If your setup is anything like mine, you’re not going to be needing both those lamps anyway, if you need either at all. Just remember to plug the lamp back in when you’re done. Portable power supply chargers can be a life-saver, too. Regarding lube, I’m on record multiple places with my recommendation about a preference for semi-solid, cream-type, organic-based lubes, but whatever you choose, note @KylerIsTrash’s emphasis on the twist-squirt top. Above all else, you want a lube the Tops can’t spill, because if they can, they will. Every. Fucking. Time. And then you have either a mess on the carpet, or a skating-rink-of-death right where the Top needs to be able to anchor his feet for thrusting. Personally, I keep my main go-to lube within my own reach, but not available to the Tops, and provide them with a small supply of something manageable in case they feel that they need it. But they won’t really - I make it my business to ensure that my cunt stays slick enough for use.

I’m nothing special either, and like you, I very seldom go home unfucked when I make the effort to go out in search of the connection. But I think that’s the point - half of winning the game is showing up to play. There may well be a surplus of bottoms, but they’re not all equally putting their asses out there in real time in a real way such that they might really contend for the available cock. For every one like me and you, there’s a multiple of wish-that-were-me bottoms who sit behind their screens and don’t actually try. Honestly - how hard is it really to end up with a cock in your cunt if someone like me can have over 1,000 men having fucked him? All I’ve done has been to show up and present my naked ass (suitably prepped). I don’t even proactively try to persuade men, I just announce my presence and take what comes. So it may be that looking at the total number of declared bottoms is actually a misleading measure - perhaps we should be asking whether there’s a surplus of functional, active, DTF bottoms.

This really is interesting. So far, though the sampling of respondents is still fairly small, about 60% have faked an orgasm. I did not expect the number to be that high among males, it being harder for men to do so successfully than for women. Part of the reason I asked the question is that my orgasms when being fucked are almost exclusively anal or prostate orgasms, and I was trained to have them in series, which is not true of most men (and trust me, not something anybody really wants), and I sometimes wonder whether men think I’m faking. If a Top tells me he likes a long fuck, I’ll go ahead and warn him up front that I’m going to be cumming a lot, and that I can’t help it, so there’s no surprise, and no doubt, because it’s so ridiculously easy to make me orgasm that way. But if I was expected to ejaculate it would be another story. That would take some doing. It’s not impossible to make me shoot, but there’s no way I could fake a penile orgasm, even if I was inserted in someone, which of course doesn’t occur.

Ask yourself first, what do you anticipate that the output would be? You’re the one who provided the parameters, so you’re the one feeding expectations into the system. For instance, you selected ‘gym’ as a descriptor. That will automatically deselect men without a certain type of physique. And that, of course, is what you want, or you wouldn’t have chosen the term. But your choice of the term reflects a preexisting bias among gay men for a certain type of physique, a type unnaturally overrepresented in porn, and not illustrative of the actual population of older, hairy, greying guys. What would you get if you just entered ‘older, hairy, graying’? It might be revealing to do both and compare the results, but bear in mind that it’s all about context, too. ‘Older’ than what? What a twentysomething considers an older guy almost certainly isn’t the same as what I consider an older guy. A similarly ambiguous question would relate to ‘average’. Let’s say you ask the AI to produce images of guys with an average cock length. Which average is the AI going to consult? There’s the scientifically determined human male average, there’s the average of lengths described for male porn stars (who make up a disproportionate share of the imagery available to the AI), and there’s the agglomerated average that might be derived from all self-reported cock lengths from all male users in the dataset who report - and as we know quite well from our experience here, that ‘average’ skews long by multiple internet inches. So what will you end up with? I have no idea, but based on the garbage-in-garbage-out principle, my money would be on you still getting cocks at the high end of average or larger.

What an eloquent way to end a discussion with “Shut up.” I suppose your AI wrote that, too? My arguments are in direct, considered response to the points you, or rather the AI, present. No insult is intended. You did, however, attempt to undertake a practical pleasantry at my expense (contrary to the advice of your AI), so you must be prepared to accept the potential negative results of your decision. If your decision to attempt to make me look foolish (however unsuccessful) ended up reflecting poorly on you, that is a debit to your own account. One might also suggest that one does oneself no favor by publicly proclaiming that an artificial intelligence produced a better response than his actual intelligence could have done. It’s akin to saying, “That Fleshlight fucks better than my ass.” Be reassured - I have no intention of any further conversation with you/it.

What would I think upon learning that your previous response was written by an AI in response to your prompts? My response would be to thank you for illustrating my point perfectly - the AI clearly captured, distilled, concentrated, and regurgitated exactly the biases you wanted to express - even better, as you claim, then you could have yourself. Your whole exercise is undermined when you ask it if it would like you to tell it what happens, and it responds that it would be interested. No, it would not. It’s a fucking pile of algorithms. It can’t, and doesn’t, have likes and dislikes. It doesn’t have curiosity, therefore it doesn’t have interests. You’re chatting away with it as though it’s a person, and there’s no one there. You even call it “him” - you assign it a gender. That’s all a reflection of your own bias. It doesn’t have a cock, bro. As to the content, it’s not even particularly insightful. You asked it a general question about ethics, and got a rather general reply about ethics. Its analysis of the psychosocial dynamic is also kind of textbook. You say you’re not sure you’ll have a lot more to say - of course you won’t. You didn’t even say what you said. Because your brain didn’t do the honest thinking to generate it, it has nothing to add. And here’s the kicker, dude, and the thing that’s going to make AI so pernicious - now that I know that anything you write might not be genuine, I’m never going to believe you’ve written another word you say, or give credit for any of it. If we can’t tell the difference between you and fake-you, we can’t trust any of you. I’m not afraid of the unknown - I spent a career that included climbing into pitch-dark holes that no human being had ever entered before. It’s the known that frightens me. Human beings have demonstrated, from the first caveman who ever picked up a stick and decided it would be a good idea to hit someone with it, to the most recent naïve guy who decided to use AI to misrepresent his own ability to make an argument, that whenever we’re presented with a new technology, we will abuse it. You think we shouldn’t dive into the deep end and that there will be unforeseen complications? No shit. The foreseen complications are bad enough. That’s why 1,100 high-profile men and women in fields associated with AI have co-signed an open letter calling for an immediate 6-month halt to further AI development until its profound risks to civilization can be assessed. Read the letter here: [think before following links] [think before following links] https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/ Signatories to the letter are now approaching 30,000. Elon Musk was one of the originals, and he’s been funding the damn thing. But since I’m functionally having this discussion with an AI, I’m just going to fully ethically tell the AI to go fuck itself, because it has no self-respect to be disrespected, and no feelings to hurt.

Exactly so. Which is why this is so concerning since we’re talking about humans. Have you met us? We’re terrible, as a species, at doing the right thing if it requires effort - and thinking requires effort. Humans have the ability to think independently, but God knows not that many of them actually do it. And genuine human interactions? Try Grindr and see how long it takes to achieve a genuine human interaction whilst leveraging technology. The perspective that you obtain from an AI is not an unbiased objective viewpoint by virtue of the fact that the machine itself does not hold a bias; any result it may produce is only as good as A) the available dataset from which it draws, and B) the nature and structure of the query posed to it, which may inherently draw bias. The AI’s source material isn’t some neutral, balanced, factual, true well of information - it’s an amalgam of the information that humans have fed into it, information riddled with bias from every angle. If a query is asked in such a way as to leverage a given bias, then that bias is likely to be reinforced. Example: A person asks an AI to write a paragraph proving that the Earth is flat. Now, the Earth is not flat. That’s been thoroughly debunked. But the query didn’t ask for that information, so instead, the closest match to what is requested is the misinformation published by those whose agenda is to prove that it is. If a (nutjob) human can make a case that sounds convincing enough to persuade another human, so can the AI. The AI will simply take the bias fed into it, distill it, concentrate it, and feed it back out. And the AI won’t actually know the difference, and won’t actually care, because caring is not something it can be programmed to do. Programming an AI to have knowledge is one thing - programming it to have wisdom is something quite different. In terms of an AI’s usefulness in providing an alternative viewpoint that might shed light on cultural trends, etc., I would point out that truly meaningful analysis of datasets is achieved through careful planning of study methodology. I fear there will be a tendency for people to treat AI like a “black box” where you enter in a question and an answer pops out, all neat and tidy, and no one has to fuss with all that complicated science or confusing math or annoying logic. The AI said it’s true, so it must be true, right? Because that’s the way most people treat the Internet already, and once the AI relieves them of the necessity to think, it will be the natural progression. It’s not that I take a dim view of what artificial intelligence is capable of, you understand - it’s that I have a very fatalistic view of what humans are going to do with it. Our track record with technology sucks ass.

Except it’s entirely different. You can’t ask an AI what’s pleasing to it, because an AI doesn’t experience pleasure - or indeed, any emotion at all. You’re projecting human qualities onto a system that only seems to have them because it mimics their output. If you want to look at an AI’s output, compare it to your own, and contemplate the difference, that’s fine, but don’t be under the impression that you’re actually comparing your way of looking at things with another human being’s. If you ask me and Topblackmale what’s attractive, and get two different answers, at least you’re getting answers filtered by the same humanity that you have, and the machine lacks. A friend was telling me about a guy’s results when he asked an AI to use a pick-up line on a date. My response was, why would you as an AI for something like that? You could train an AI to parrot back a series of conditional responses, but you couldn’t train it to want to think of a pick-up line, or feel a need to think of a pick-up line, because it isn’t sentient, has no emotional needs or empathy, and isn’t actually relating to a human being. Just yesterday a friend told me that he had been Best Man at another friend’s wedding, and had asked ChatGPT to write his Best Man’s speech, which it did, and which he used. I was appalled. This was a thing he had been asked to put his thought and his heart into, and he put neither. In an age when it is rapidly becoming more and more vital that human beings begin to think, AI is about to take us in exactly the opposite direction, to a state in which people don’t have to use their minds to do anything - they’ll just let the machine do it. The ironic thing about all this is that I was a Star Wars child - Star Wars came out when I was in elementary school, and for the last half-century I have desperately longed for the day when I could have a real droid like Artoo and Threepio. Yet I’ll be damned before I let these AI machines do my thinking for me.

Though a great deal of what gets posted in this area is rather suspect, this is not the fiction section. And there seems to be some confusion, as the OP asked this question almost two years ago - advice on what he should do is unlikely to be of any use to him now.

I just got a Jack Hunter dildo, medium size, from MrHankey’sToys. Medium size, my ass. I got it because the previous one I got from them, a Rentman, is just a shade to big for me to use in general opening-up, as it’s pretty consistently about 8” circumference along the shaft, and is better used for stretching. I wanted this new one just to slide in and out to get ready for cock-taking. In hindsight there’s not a lot of difference between 7.5” and 8” around when it’s shoved 8” up your ass. Plus, this new one has about an inch more insertable length. The big difference is that I can tolerate holding the new one fully inserted inside me longer than the other one, long enough for a prostate orgasm to kick in on its own. The thing basically emptied my prostate in one ongoing ejaculation, and I wasn’t even fully hard. MrHankey’s dildos are great, with realistic feel, but if you’re thinking of getting one, pay careful attention to the dimensions (most come in multiple sizes) and once you decide what size you want, buy the next smaller one.

I do wonder how many bottoms end up making moaning sounds they aren’t really feeling because they’ve come to think it’s what you ‘should’ be doing, or what you ‘should’ sound like on the basis of porn?

I’ve made this question a poll so you can answer truthfully without shame. Be honest. Have you ever faked it? Why?

I was using emulate in the simple sense of ‘match by imitation’, meaning only that the cumdump takes on the role of the hole the peg fits into - that being the same thing females are biologically designed for. I did not intend to imply emulate in the sense of ‘striving to equal or surpass’, though in my own case I would be delighted to achieve a state in which my cunt could deliver a breeding experience truly on a par with the anatomy actually made for the purpose. The way I meant it was more along the lines of ‘acts in place of’. It must be pointed out that there are some cumdumps who do emulate females, at least to some degree, with transvestism and sissification, but this is certainly a subset.

How does AI evaluate an utterly subjective parameter like ‘attractive’ in an objective way? The only way would be to use an algorithm that assesses what is tagged as ‘attractive’ in other contexts - but the contexts it’s using for source data are already heavily biased by the same media and cultural pressures that cause idealized and unrealistic senses of what constitutes human attractiveness. Because the AI has no human quality to counterbalance the algorithmic conclusion, the result is simply more concentrated idealization and bias.

I’m the very, very last person to give anyone advice about dating, but this is what you’d lead with? I know we barely know each other, but let’s talk about what you need to do to qualify for this relationship. It’s okay, I have a checklist. It seems to me that one would want to suss out compatibility in a more indirect way. Tastes in music, food, recreation, pets, entertainment, etc. - start by exploring pleasurable, low-risk topics to get a feel. Share a story from childhood. Ask if the person has a favorite object, and why. People-watch and speculate about the lives of those who pass by - this can reveal many attitudes and assumptions. Politics and religion will have to be assessed at some point, but the first time out of the gate is not that point. Sex, I would think, could be a potential minefield, or not, depending on where you’re going with it and where you want it to go. Me, I would tiptoe if I went there at all.