PozBearWI

To the extent we define compulsive behavior as addition; perhaps it is; but nothing like a full on chemical additiction.

F U C K.....

As I was one of the replying posters, for the record I wasn't mad.  Not in the least.  But facts are facts (or they should be).  Cheating is by definition a violation of "rules".  Rules one ostensibly already agreed to.  So looking for rules about cheating makes absolutely no logical sense.  

But yeah rephrased "how can I cheat and get away with it?".  Sure that makes sense.  But the details aren't universally applicable.  And the consequences are typically not avoidable, eventually.  

It is a heck of a lot easier to just rip the bandaid off and have that discussion with your mate that you want or need to fuck around; and discuss what if anything that means for the relationship.  You may surprise yourself.  One of the options is that your mate replies, "sure, and I can as well".  Now if you find it uncomfortable as hell (as my previous made did in this exact situation); then really what are you trying to keep together in the first place?  

WRT Stealthing being celebrated here on BZ.  Indeed some do but most of us don't condone it.  Sure our society has always had some sort of snake oil salesman.  Selling poison while calling it elixir.  And stealthing is no different than that.  When "getting away with it" becomes the more desirable outcome; it is perhaps time to revaluate things altogether.  Living in a cooperative society calls upon us to be fair and honest.  And when we aren't history has shown it never turns out well.  

Hmmm, is NOW the time the rest of us should start flying our flag UPSIDE DOWN?

@aj99 I'm glad you can as well.

There is a massive amount of tension world wide.  I imagine hunger is part of it.  Desire for more power.  More likely hundreds of individually small things assembled together in these now dangerous times.  Are we headed towards a US Civil war?  Is it imminent?  Are we headed towards World War?  Is there anyway to instill a vision of human cooperation?  Or are we so hell bent on telling everyone else what they must do that we lost our humanity?

Nice.  Thanks for posting this @tallslenderguy.  Perhaps its my own antiquity; I think our social norms tend to put way more emphasis on the significance that exists.  I am proud of these guys for giving it a go.  Save for our plumbing there really isn't any difference.  We're humans first and I think humanity would be better off if we come to terms with that.  

When I've seen that message I've already been ignored, and thus can't ignore someone who is already ignoring me (which does sound sorta like fukken high school doesn't it???  LOL).

3 hours ago, UKFFBBBtm said:

Merica, land of the free and with the promise of freedom of speech and the American dream for all, unless you're:

- LGBTQ+

- A women

- Not white

- Not Christian 

- Anti-gun 

It does often seem that way.  And oddly those doing about half of the social castigation/block of speech are from the tips of BOTH parties.  Women might have it worse as they aren't allowed to make decisions about what happens inside their own bodies.  That's fucked up...  

I submit that the Christians are anything but Christian.  They've absconded with the name; but have become polar opposites of the namesake of that belief.  Fellow white people....  Hold up a sheet of bright white copy paper next to your face in the mirror.  Who the fuck can claim white anymore?  Enough already.  And guns...  Ugh...  A perverted second amendment.  By intent it is for mutual protection; not aggression.  

Where to from here my brothers?  Can we really just sit back and watch this continue????

Of course, while it is true I've never once been medicated for my HIV since diagnosis nine months ago.  It is also true though that my own genetics have attenuated the virus somewhat; so that I am having to balance the risk of combining HIV meds with other stuff I take and choosing the least bad option.  

"rules to follow when cheating...."  Seriously someone put those words together?  Cheating is by definition a violation of "rules".  Cheating is thus NOT following rules.  Therefore any rules one might list are, out of the box, moot.  The point of this was ?????

I also have a controversial website; and wonder what my peril might be in the coming months?  Election worker here, locally elected as well.  And site owner of a perhaps even more controversial site.  

I not only hope we all vote, but that we take time to consider the trajectory humanity seems to be taking (not just the US); and make choices that help our freedoms and not just that we wish to be free OF.  

I put month and year in the title as this topic should I hope become moot as new actions and decisions unfold.  

Remember when Republicans complained about "activist courts"?   They're back!!!!

So ever since SCOTUS ruling yesterday the significance of it is settling into my thoughts.  Where to from here obviously is whatever actually happens.  But now that we have this new permission given the President, perhaps our current president needs to proceed with the obvious and intended use of that controversial decision. 

A SCOTUS decision this weighty should have been unanimous.  That it wasn't, and is squarely at the D/R line (is this our modern mason/dixon line?).  Are we at the threshold of civil war?  We appear to be at a social impasse (although why we have to be here seems to me stupid and optional if we choose).  

It feels like we are AT the point of having to make some very difficult social choices.

Pozzed last year, still not on meds.  

boolean is an either or choice.  Think of it as opposite choices.  In the instant case one will let us operate under our current constitution and potentially amend it as it was designed.  The other choice is to rip up the whole thing and start over.  While starting over is what humans have done over time; in our case I submit it is unnecessary and definitely ill advised.  

3 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

It's almost certainly a legally separate company, possibly with multiple layers of partnerships and/or LLCs and/or other entities to provide some legal distance between him and the company. What that means is that it's possible the company could survive, depending on how fast and how thoroughly it cuts ties with him, but there's no guarantee that will be successful. The more 4mf and he are "associated" in people's minds, the harder it will be.

I have to believe though that as  site it will get additional scrutiny

@BootmanLA I would argue if there were evidence to support my argument.  But I hope the whole thing doesn't fall apart of things like property rights will be up for debate again.

Yup exactly @viking8x6  And since then per it's designed it has become more inclusive.  Not without its fits and starts but on balance better.  Rather than tear it down my hope is we'll make it better.  It's been awhile since we've made constitutional amendments but the plumbing is there to allow it.

11 hours ago, hardandhorny1337 said:

The amount of fakes on that is unreal.

Indeed, once Grindr sold the volume of daily spam exploded; at least here in Wisconsin

It is a boolean choice; we either go for the skilled snake oil salesman and buy his snake oil, and all that implies, or we don't.  Are we hiring an entertainer or a president?  Joe with notes (teleprompter; staff fed teleprompter, or whatever) has the skill and moxie to explain his several contributions to the benefit of our imperfect economy.  It is clearly a hell of a lot better than it was, even though many prices have gone up.  Those who own property are damned happy to see values increasing as they've been pretty stagnant, at least here in middle USA for a couple of decades.  Now, it is concerning that corporations are buying up property which used to be the market for ordinary citizens; but Trump isn't going to solve that except by eminent domain.  

We've a pretty great system in place that was designed to do a lot for the many rather than massive lots for the few.  

31 minutes ago, viking8x6 said:

Tell me more! I'm pretty sure I need some...

 

With you studly friend, of course you need more, and I do from you as well.  That special medicine your prostate produces....  

Oh lord indeed.  TV media especially has become a master of unnecessary overkill.  Who gives a crap what the polls say 12 months out?  In recent years they seem to be wrong more than they're right and thus what is the point?  And can we stop with the over emphasis on "breaking news" which more often than not are simply updates (and minor ones at that) for yesterday's news.  It was so much better when news was a service to the public rather than the advertising investment for big pharma.  And really, I am supposed to tell my doctor what to prescribe?  Ask your doctor about "doigivafuk"!  Cripes it has lead me to record ANY TV I watch so I can skip ahead over the 75% utter bullcrap they claim to be news.  

Newspapers not so much better which is disappointing as I rather like them over TV.  We've a pretty decent local paper here and yet the two hired reporters lack talent.  Thankfully the editor is quite good, but he can't do it all and run once of the few remaining local newspapers.  

Indeed we should each respect our own limits as we see fit.  If the guy is asking after we fucked; really what's the point?  I would probably first respond with "I didn't crap on your dick did I".  If he says, no, i meant do you have A$^DS?  I would reply I am poz with a well controlled but detectable viral load, no other STI's.  Hopefully this would lead to a mutually productive conversation.  But if not....  

On 6/16/2024 at 5:18 PM, BootmanLA said:

 

I agree that this guy's ignorance is staggering (but sadly all too common), and that it's on him to protect himself. But I still think it's a shit thing to do to lie and tell someone you're "clean" (thus giving in to his archaic and insulting language, and reinforcing his stupid ideas about safety). I'd opt for directness and education (and if he didn't want to fuck after that, well, I doubt seriously he's a good enough fuck to put up with that kind of bullshit.

Indeed we could choose to make this a teaching moment but I doubt it would be effective.  But, perhaps the most productive thing to do would be to say much of what's been said in the preceding posts.  First, while it is good he eventually asked, asking after the fact is going to amend what I might have said had we begun with that question.  I don't take offense to "clean".  Ignorance abounds these days so why should we be surprised?  I would explain what I do for sexual health concluding with my numbers (as I am not literally U=U; but a VL of 680 is a massively lower risk than an average unmedicated guy.).  But I would want to have explains doxyPEP, what and HIV test does and does not show (specifically that it is a test to see if one is positive for HIV.  It does not test to see if you're NEG.  For most of us here we know of the window period.  

I suspect I would not get far before he would bail; but honestly, would that really be a loss?   🙂

Seems like a fuck flu should be setting in soon.....