Anyone barebacked their way through the AIDS epidemic of the 1980s and early 1990s?

[RandyCubby]

barebacked my way thru the 90s and ended up poz

[bbpoznow]

have tried but very few  tops  willing 

[hungry_hole]

On 7/24/2021 at 11:16 AM, HardOneLA said:

I was a Top then and considered myself less at risk for contracting AIDs then for a bottom.

I think that this is actually true, especially in anonymous settings like saunas, where bottoms are cum-receptacles, and HIV is in cum.

Years ago I knew a guy who was a "TOTAL TOP" in his BBrt profile, portraying himself as very masculine and in-control. He always claimed he pozzed just by topping and that he never got fucked. I think that it is possible to poz exclusively by topping, 0% bottoming, but it is rare plus we must account by the problem some men have with wanting to bottom. Some men associate bottoming with a female role.

On 7/24/2021 at 11:16 AM, HardOneLA said:

...I was a Top then ... Now I'm a total bottom, raw, and loving it.  Oink!

There is a book about anonymous sex in parks from 1965. In this book the author noted that in terms of roles, the bottom role is what he calls "the base role".

 

[hntnhole]

Hey, concerned ...

Yep, I never did care for condoms.  Tried one once, and could barely get hard enough to fuck.  Back then I was a kid, loved fucking Hole (we didn't call it "raw" Hole - ALL Hole was "raw"), but it was a very stressful time.  Before HIV came to town, fucking was as commonplace as shaking hands when you met someone - everybody fucked everybody (and then, that meant pumping sperm up their gut or down their throat), and pigsex was just the way we all lived.  When guys started dying all over the place though, things slacked off a bit - the handyman in our building died right in our driveway - that was tough to handle. 

Some say that guys who Topped exclusively had less of a chance of getting pozzed because the virus was most likely to enter the tiny stretches the Cock created inside the Hole. I don't know if that's true or not.  I did stop fucking altogether for a while - guys were dropping like flies.  One of the little gay newspapers actually went out of business because they published "Celebrations of Life" notices.  All it had was page after page after page of notices, and guys stopped picking that rag up in the bars.

But, now there are a number of ways to stay healthy, so while I understand your concern, it's nothing at all like those days.  The important thing is, you follow your Lusts - wherever they take you.  Now, you can be the man you were born to be, and not die for it.  

Good luck !!!

[AlwaysOpen]

Wow, cannot believe I never saw this thread, or replied to it before now.  I was tall for my age in my teen years  and by 1972 I had a drivers lic and a family car I could borrow. Only problem was I lived in rural NY, an hour out of the city, and  being out and proud was just not a thing back then.  Luckily, the city closest to me had a porn theater, and with my height they never asked for ID . I got my eyes opened to gay sex in all the magazines I bought the 1st year I could drive- so many in fact I ended up with a trash can full of hard core porn, which I thought was well hidden off in the woods ( but which I discovered one day, was not as hidden as I thought- everything gone!) An old man was my first experience ( pre viagra, and it was pretty bad all around) I did find out thru him  about a couple other guys he had sex with, all about my age and 1 under a mile from me. I ended up with the neighbor, a year younger than me, in my ass every chance I could get. 1974 came around and I graduated high school, about then  the college town had a disco open, and I went to explore. Saw some people I knew, and, a burly girl who looking back had to be a lesbian, at some point that night told me there was another disco that just opened in the next town away, and I would probably really like it.  Called the Packing House ( it is apple country upstate after all)  I went and saw a lot of men, shirtless and that 70's look, dancing and grabbing each other. My very 1st exposure to a drag queen was that night- she was holding court and called me over due to my height, and proceeded to grab my hand, bend my index finger to my palm , and exclaim oh this boy has a big one to her circle. Naive, I asked what she meant- and she schooled me in all things gay that night, including  telling me there was a men only club in the basement, and I should go there. I had to join the club ( Hot Bunz, what else? lol)  and got buzzed in. That night I found my 1st dark room, and took at least 10 loads back there. The bar became my go to place as often as I could get away. In September, I headed off to college, in NYC- and 1974 NYC was sensory overload for a horny kid ( animal terms had not been assigned back then, but I was a pig) Oddly, I never had sex in the dorm or even with school mates, but with Times Square porn stores,Adonis male theater, Gaiety, Mans Country baths, Club Baths etc in Manhattan, I had more than enough action off campus. By 1978 and graduation, I had kept tract of each new/unique fucker, and had at least 2,500 guys who fucked me. I moved to Mid America, and the scene was dead, but it existed if you knew the cruising places, or if you went to St Louis on the weekends and the bars and Club Bath. When I met the man who would be my partner in 1981, the man count was 4,500. We did a long distance (6 hrs) relationship for almost 3 years, and while apart a guy has needs, so I was still cruising ( and I doubt he was being celibate too)  We moved into a house together and he wanted monogamy, which I really tried to adhere to, but still  had some straying . And as a lot of people will tell you, after a year or two of the same sex routine , no matter how much you care for someone, it just doesn't hit that button. Especially if you want the kitchen sink sundae, and he is just interested in a vanilla cone. He was often on the road weekends, and I was at the ABS or the roadside rest area getting some action. It was also at this point I was diagnosed  {1987} Post diagnosis our sex life totally died, even with a basket full of condoms I bought to provide him with  a safer fuck.  (I think the few times we did have sex was likely the only time I had a rubber fuck in all my life) I went into a lull after the HIV diagnosis, and steadfastly refused to go on AZT. After 6 months, he wanted to open the relationship up, we could play around, but never bring the trick to the house, and no getting involved, etc. I had a field day. The rest area was a wooded, red neck adventure land. ABS were plentiful, the park by the zoo had  more fuck trails than my ass after a busy night, and thanks to Drummer, I was finding more and more of my kink side. By the time we split in 2000 ( he had broken his own rule and gotten emotionally involved with a guy) my unique , different cock count was almost 10,000. I quit  one job I had  and transferred to South Florida with the 2nd job I had to begin  the next chapter of my life. And Ft Lauderdale in the 90's and early 2000's was wild- a lot of bar sex, sex clubs, computers were coming into use, sites like ManHunt were being used by guys for fast sex. And I had  as much as I could manage and still work. Now, some 20 years later, my raw cock/cum count is likely  upwards of 25,000 different men. Some I still play with now and then,  but the last 18 months has really toned down my slut in a way HIV never did.  Oh, and I did finally get on meds in 2001, mostly from all the toll stress the previous 3  years had done to me. Maybe I am a genetically gifted person, or lucky, but now at 34 years since diagnosis, I have not had any hospitalizations due to the virus, and with 1 pill a day have been undetectable 18 years. Oh, 1 other thing in a long tale - I am one of those 110% bottoms. I honestly can count the few times in 50 years of sex  that I ever fucked someone- the ex may have gotten it 5 times, and 4 of the times was when I was really pissed off at him lol.

[ItsCasey]

Yes, in the late 80's.  I was just a dumb teen that didn't think about what could have happened.

I worked in a bath house and often stayed and played after my shift.

Never caught HIV but now I am chasing (go figure).

[downtownswallow]

I saw too many wither and die miserable deaths.  During the heighth of AIDS. I was celibate for a number of years...condomed encounters only.  Later...very slowly...a friend or two became my Breeding Tops.  I was in several monogamous relationships and as AIDS waned and drug treatments emerged, I began having a regular sex life.  It wasn't a wonderful period if you're a Bottom craving bareback and breeding.  But I'm alive.

[PupLucca]

On 5/30/2017 at 7:25 AM, concerned1 said:

I was just wondering if there is anyone still alive today who genuinely barebacked their way through the AIDS epidemic of 1981 to 1996 (from the year the first AIDS cases were reported to the year that antiretroviral drugs were introduced). The 1981 - 1996 period, was when an AIDS or HIV diagnosis meant certain death. If you were diagnosed with AIDS in those early days, you'd start making your own funeral arrangements. No treatments were available to treat the AIDS virus (later named "HIV") itself (except AZT which didn't really work for most people....and if it did work, it only did so for so long) ...in this period, the only thing that could be done was to treat opportunistic infections as and when they occurred - and if you were diagnosed with HIV but not AIDS (that is, if you were in the asymptomatic stage) you were basically just waiting to eventually get sick. I cannot imagine what it must have been like with an HIV+ diagnosis, but being healthy, and waiting every day for that first KS lesion to appear...or for that first sore chest and bad cough to appear which would turn out to be pneumonia. it must have been a really awful time to be diagnosed with AIDS/HIV.

Because it was such a terrifying time, and because a diagnosis was very bad news back then, I know that eventually most sexually active/promiscuous gay and bisexual men started practicing only safe(r) sex (sex with condoms). However, I imagine there were those who just , for whatever reason, continued to fuck raw (baffling that people would during those horrific days, but there must have been those who did). I wonder if any such people "made it through" those years, without becoming infected. I think if anyone did, it would be absolutely amazing to hear from them. No doubt there are those who will say they did, but are lying (for whatever reason). But I wonder if there are any people who genuinely kept on having BB sex ....indiscriminately with many anonymous strangers in the pre-1996/antiretroviral days  and never got HIV? I would personally doubt it very much. And certainly not anyone who was living in the San Francisco Castro street gay village and New York City Greenwich village where AIDS was at it's worst. But imagine if there were such people? Wow, that would be so incredible and fascinating and would beg the question: HOW?

I was 12 in 1982 when I first started taking raw cock and loads.  The AIDS epidemic was constantly on the news so it was hard to escape. But, I didn’t put any thought to there being a chance I could get it. It wasn’t until many years and loads later that I made the decision to chase and eventually becoming Poz. During the late 80’s as I started going to the gay bars and working in them that I noticed friends and customers being there one day and never returning as they had succumb to Aids. I think about the friends I’ve lost and the talent and beauty to never be seen again very often. 

[Guest]

On 9/16/2021 at 10:56 AM, Pnpguyny said:

I have a friend in his 60's who bareback bottomed all through the aids crisis. He said he did the condom thing for like a month and decided raw sex was worth dying  of aids for.  He said he used to go pre-lubed to some pier in the village bend over and let anyone fuck him.  Just about all of his friends died but hes still here. 

Is he HIV-? I completely stopped having sex with men when GRIDS/AIDS first happened. I am bisexual so I then had sex with only women who were not IV drug users, and condoms were used as I did not want to be a single dad or burden a lady with being a single/co-parent because I shot my cum loads in her pussy and bred her.

[Guest]

On 9/17/2021 at 4:03 PM, hungry_hole said:

I think that this is actually true, especially in anonymous settings like saunas, where bottoms are cum-receptacles, and HIV is in cum.

Years ago I knew a guy who was a "TOTAL TOP" in his BBrt profile, portraying himself as very masculine and in-control. He always claimed he pozzed just by topping and that he never got fucked. I think that it is possible to poz exclusively by topping, 0% bottoming, but it is rare plus we must account by the problem some men have with wanting to bottom. Some men associate bottoming with a female role.

There is a book about anonymous sex in parks from 1965. In this book the author noted that in terms of roles, the bottom role is what he calls "the base role".

 

You can get pozzed by being a raw top, and even by sucking cock. But while most get HIV from being a bottom it can happen from being BB top and while getting HIV from sucking cock is rare it is not completely impossible. I know men who were pozzed from sucking cock but they told me how they had cuts, sores, broken skin, or had recently seen a dentist or brushed/flossed their teeth.

[StlBottom]

never required from anyone who fucked me.  never carried them with me.  A few used them, a few didn't, and a few said no thanks.  I never cleaned out, was always up front with that information.

Read about a study published by the nih, that found those who cleaned out had a significantly higher chance of being infected.  Theory was cleaning removed the protective barrier normally found in the colon.  Worked for me.  

[hungry_hole]

The Internet made popular the concepts of bareback and the top and bottom roles. Before AIDS guys just had sex and nobody asked for condoms because there was no fear of pregnancy. Guys fucked or got fucked and I liked getting fucked and having guys cuming inside but I never spoke of myself as a bottom.

In the early 80's I was at a sauna in Toronto and for the first time a guy wanted to put on a condom to fuck me. I said "What the fuck!" and didn't have sex but he told me about a disease spreading in gay men. As everyone else I had to stop fucking, or wear condoms as I did for a few years. When I went to parks my fetish then was to hang the condoms with loads near me, so I managed to accept condoms, but not for long.

My best time as a bottom  was in the early 90's when I decided to ditch condoms forever, at a time when there were no good treatments for HIV and of course no PrEP.

At the saunas, guys were willing to fuck without a condom but only a few were willing to get fucked bareback, and less bred by anonymous cum. For barebacking, most guys relied on relationships and sex at the bathhouses was supposed to always be with condoms. 

I remember that in the early 90's, when I was getting fucked bareback at the sauna, most guys would say "I'm getting ready to cum. Do you want me to pull out?", something I haven't heard in years. After I said something like "No! Cum deep inside me!" they would go crazy because holes wanting their cum were hard to find.

It was fun because sometimes when I arrived at the sauna and some guy who had already bred me was there, I knew he would eventually breed me again that night. Later, with Meds and then PrEP bareback bottoms began to appear creating too much competition.

 

[Seedthissub]

One of my first experiences was in sleazy 80s Times Square. I would take the train in and suck cock at the theaters. One night I took loads bb from a few guys. Worried for a long time 

[toolman1966]

Became active in the late '80s at ABS, parks, bathroom stalls, his place, my place, bath houses, and cheap motels.  Sometimes a condom was use but very little.  I traveled around the central part of the U.S. and accidentally bumped into customers and married guys on the "downlow" in my community.  Sometimes we looked the other way pretending we didn't see each and other times we hooked up.  Career changes 15 years ago took away my traveling for work so I lost track of some guys.  But I know a few who died of Aids and just this past week a former wife who was gifted by her "downlow husband" died of complications.  

I have been PrEP for close to 7 yrs and it has sided effects.  It can damage kidneys & even lower your bone density.  Almost 6 months ago, in my bi annual checkup, test showed a slight change in my kidney health and I may need to stop PrEP in the future.  when asked about what would replace it, the female nurse practitioner answer, "Absence of risky behavior".  I just laughed! 

[toolman1966]

On 4/4/2022 at 2:48 PM, TotalTop said:

You can get pozzed by being a raw top, and even by sucking cock. But while most get HIV from being a bottom it can happen from being BB top and while getting HIV from sucking cock is rare it is not completely impossible. I know men who were pozzed from sucking cock but they told me how they had cuts, sores, broken skin, or had recently seen a dentist or brushed/flossed their teeth.

If you don't have good dental hygiene, a little bleeding gum its possible !