Politics of censoring online content

[chipygmalion80]

2018 will go down as worst year for Internet porn. No Craigs. No Tumblr.

Really don't understand how less-BigGov types in America can't see this as MORE Big Brother regulation.

[BoredMidwest]

On 12/9/2018 at 8:18 AM, chipygmalion80 said:

2018 will go down as worst year for Internet porn. No Craigs. No Tumblr.

Really don't understand how less-BigGov types in America can't see this as MORE Big Brother regulation.

Because they're a lying pack of hypocrites?

[drscorpio]

On 12/9/2018 at 12:18 PM, chipygmalion80 said:

2018 will go down as worst year for Internet porn. No Craigs. No Tumblr.

Really don't understand how less-BigGov types in America can't see this as MORE Big Brother regulation.

Because they only care about fighting regulations on business and finance. 
They love regulating who you can fuck, what you can put in your body, how you worship, ... 

[Guest alwaysready]

I just hope they don't close down the very helpful bing.  just put in what you are hot for and click. go to vids and watch. this is in addition to xtube, etc.  I hope fumblr goes broke, and sells to someon who will invite fuckers etc  back on

[Guest neg4POZnw]

On 12/9/2018 at 10:18 AM, chipygmalion80 said:

2018 will go down as worst year for Internet porn. No Craigs. No Tumblr.

Really don't understand how less-BigGov types in America can't see this as MORE Big Brother regulation.

The impetus for this started on the regressive left not the reactionary right: an anti-sex, anti-male (predominantly Feminist) moral crusade. They started a few years back by Newspeaking all prostitution into "Human trafficing." Without anyone even fucking noticing. Insane. Or caring, really, because it hadn't impacted them. Yet. Not unlike the early 20th century when anti-prostitution crusades were  couched as a fight against "White Slavery."

Anyway, I agree with your criticism of most conservatives. But I'll extend it to most Librals too. The gov has Never been a champion of free speech. And it never will be. Regulations have never served to curb regulations. 

The only ones who seem to have cracked a history book, warned everyone, and have consistently fought this are Libertarians and a certain kind of Anarchist. 

Oh, and the adult industry. Cock bless 'em!

Hopefully frustrated boners will be the thing that gets people to finally fight back

My money is on a far more pessimistic wager, because most people are sheep and morons: Sites we love like this and Bbrt and hookup aps are next. 

 

[Scottyrim]

Totally agree AnonBareback. Conservatives are a big problem, but the hidden problem is the SJWs and the Regressive Left.

When you start saying Free Speech can be curbed on Twitter, no matter how hateful it is, because it is a private company, then how the hell do you argue that porn should be allowed on Tumblr when the same argument is made?  

[barebackfuckhole]

On this particular issue it seems to be the Democrat Liberals that are causing most of the damage. Most of these tech companies like Tumblr are in or connected to Silicon Valley in California. Silicon Valley is 99% Democrat.  RentBoy was brought down in a Democrat Liberal NYC. 

It is the Democrats not the Republicans that are in crazy uproar over a President trash talked with an alpha male saying that “sometimes you just have to grab them by the pussy”. 

It is the Democrats that feel that it is beyond criminal that a drunk 17yo boy would try to have sex with a drunk girl at a party, then this boy should not be on the Supreme Court. 

It the Hollywood Liberals that are pushing the Me Too Movement.  It is the Me Too Movement that bringing down guys like Matt Lauer because he is trying to have sex with coworkers and keeps dildos in his office drawer .

Most large American Cities are governed by Liberal Democrat mayors but yet ABS and bathhouses are being forced to close. 

The leaders at Facebook and Twitter are all Liberal Democrats but yet they want to limit free speech and kick folks off they don’t like. 

Now Republicans have their own problems with other issues but these sex issues are not it. It is the Liberal Democrats that are the most upset with everything sexual. The Liberals will respond saying no that’s not true we are for  LGBQ and transgender rights.  In my opinion they are just saying that stuff so they can get our votes. How can you be truly for us if you take everything we enjoy away from us and try to dictate our morals for us?

[Guest hodannyboi]

On 12/15/2018 at 8:54 AM, barebackfuckhole said:

Now Republicans have their own problems with other issues but these sex issues are not it.

Only because they've accepted that exterminating us all outright isn't a plan they can pull off, at least not yet.  It's hasn't even been 100 years since WWII, aka that thing that convinced most of humanity that mass exterminations of marginalized groups is uh, kind of a shitty thing to do.  There's still shelf life on that sentiment continuing to hold.

Anyway all your points I believe are valid.  But I do think it's worth noting the basic truth that for the most part Republican = White Christian = Puritanism = Purge.  They'd ship us off to the ovens the instant they had a chance, if they could.

Democrats, at worst, are just dicks, or morons.  But we can work with that.

[Guest neg4POZnw]

7 minutes ago, hodannyboi said:

But I do think it's worth noting the basic truth that for the most part Republican = White Christian = Puritanism = Purge.  They'd ship us off to the ovens the instant they had a chance, if they could.

Democrats, at worst, are just dicks, or morons.  But we can work with that.

I used to think the same way, because it used to be--basically--true. The 90's and maybe early 2000's was the last time we saw serious anti-Gay moral crusading on the part Republicans. They wised up. Not, I think, due to some enlightened awakening but for practical reasons; they now have gay guys talk at their conventions and get standing ovations ffs. 

Follow the censorship. Follow the lobbies. Follow the politicial stooges in Washington pushing this trend ...

It's dominated by Democrats who are bending over for an extreme and hysterical minority on the far Left.

What makes this most frigtening is that--unlike back in the day when repubs were Open about their bigotry--the new regressive left has managed to frame it all in terms of caring and love and unicorns. And they sincerly believe it. Which makes them far more dangerous than the conservatives ever were.

Hysterics about camps and genocide are distracting and, with respect, historically absurd. But the slide into censorship is real.

Your reference to puritanism is apt tho. But we see it again and again that the life-ruining scarlet letter is applied not by the Right but by the Left (mostly feminists and SJWs), and primarily against men of every sexual orientation.

Like the puritans ...

They call for the presumption of innocence to be eliminated when men are accused of sexual crimes ("Prove thyself not a witch, ye witch")!

What was "sinful speech" to the old puritans is now called "offensive" or "hate" speech by the new, Left, puritans. And they advocate Laws to enforce this.

They wish to prevent people from seeing or reading or hearing what is not sanctioned by their own moral code.

They publically shame, threaten, bankrupt, and silence opposition as heretical.

I'm no fan of Republicans. But in 2018 I can be confident that the vast majority of them may disagree with me or even think me a wicked "sinner" (I happily am!).. but they won't try to silence me.

I can no longer say that about most Democrats.

[barebackfuckhole]

7 hours ago, hodannyboi said:

Only because they've accepted that exterminating us all outright isn't a plan they can pull off, at least not yet.  It's hasn't even been 100 years since WWII, aka that thing that convinced most of humanity that mass exterminations of marginalized groups is uh, kind of a shitty thing to do.  There's still shelf life on that sentiment continuing to hold.

Anyway all your points I believe are valid.  But I do think it's worth noting the basic truth that for the most part Republican = White Christian = Puritanism = Purge.  They'd ship us off to the ovens the instant they had a chance, if they could.

Democrats, at worst, are just dicks, or morons.  But we can work with that.

Great reply but I challenge you to think about your statement “Republicans=White Christians=Puritanism =Purge.”

The numbers of any White Christian Puritans are really not that large .  Let’s look at most Religions in the US:

The Catholic Church accepts gays and many even have gay outreach programs. You can be openly gay in the Catholic Church they just don’t want you to have sex and be chastised. A good portion of the Catholic Church is actually run by gays, google “Catholic Gay Mafia” if you don’t believe me.

The Lutheran Church is pro gay and even has gay and lesbian ministers and the same with the Methodist Church and the  Episcopalian Church

Presbyterian some are gay talerant and other secs are not but Presbyterians Generally are “live and let live’ and don’t really outwardly challenge anything in society. 

The Southern Baptist and the Alliance Baptist are both moderate (as rated by Human Rights Campaign) even though they are against homosexuality.  They is a gay population within the church but it is closeted .

The exception to Baptist is the American Baptist Churches USA (ABCUSA). They are the radical wing of the Baptist religion. Those of folks that protest at Gay funerals and at events like Mardi Gras in New Orleans or Gay Pride Prides. The thing is though there are only about one million of them. That’s a small percentage of overall population of this country. Not much they can do other than yell loud. 

Democrats use the radical groups to try to keep us in check. See they say, you have to vote for us or these radical Christians will hurt you. The thing is these type radical Republicans Christians are so few in numbers that there not much they can do or even  obtain  power easily. (The Democrats use the same scare  tactic with the Klan (KKK). “If Republicans get in charge the Klan is going to rule”  well, just google the Klan there numbers are 3,000 Klan members nationwide. There is a lot of talk and concern about just 3,000 people).

You said White Christians, but I challenge you to talk to our Black friends that attend Black churches.  Unfortunately there is a large stigma against everything gay within that community.   

Like I said before the Republicans are no saints and have their own issues with other problems. 

I am neither Republican or Democrat but I look at issues and vote accordingly. Currently it seems to be the liberal left that wants to dictate our morals. These companies like Tumblr Facebook and Craigslist are all run by liberal Democrats.

These cities that raid ABS, cruising areas, gay sex clubs and close down websites like  Rentboy are all run by Democrat governments. 

They give us “Gay Rights” but set our morals for us and take away every everything that makes our gay culture unique. It is if they are saying, “We will give you “Rights” but you have conform and accept our Straight culture.” That’s not really giving Us a Right to be Us, that is actually just changing Us into a same-sex version of Straight America.   

 

[barebackfuckhole]

The Moderator moved this string to LGBQ Politics Section. SEE it is happening everywhere including here! This string been moved from a popular section to be in a more obscure politics section instead of leaving it were we all started at and originally intended it to be.  If we had wanted this string to be in the political section we ourselves would have written there or agreed, if asked, to have it moved. But we as responders thought it was prudent to have this important conversation in the mainstream where we original had it. No member said we should move or stop talking or take it to the Political Section. The Moderator HE made the choice for us!  If he thought it was good to move it, and it might very well be a good idea, the least he could have done was to democratically ask us first if it was okay to move the conversation. He did not and made the choice himself.  The Moderator did it and in essence censored our speech somewhat by moving the conversation to a less visited section of the blog.

Although I do not know the Moderator there is a good chance that he being from the Northeast he is influenced by the very relevant Democrat leanings and ideals we been discussing here.  Would that not be ironic to our conversation...and so it goes!

[drscorpio]

2 hours ago, barebackfuckhole said:

Although I do not know the Moderator there is a good chance that he being from the Northeast he is influenced by the very relevant Democrat leanings and ideals we been discussing here.  Would that not be ironic to our conversation...and so it goes!

Moderator's Note: I'm from Louisiana. Is that too liberal for you?

Putting conversations where they are most appropriate is not censorship. I left a link from the original thread to this one, so everyone would know where to go. I did not hide your comments or your discussion. 

[barebackfuckhole]

6 hours ago, drscorpio said:

Moderator's Note: I'm from Louisiana. Is that too liberal for you?

Putting conversations where they are most appropriate is not censorship. I left a link from the original thread to this one, so everyone would know where to go. I did not hide your comments or your discussion. 

I might have it wrong but I would be very surprised and humbled if this blog is being run from Louisiana. I guess the Moderator was trying to say that he is from Louisiana and I would guess he now runs this blog from the Northeast.  It is not really where a person is from but rather where a person lives that shapes one’s liberal or conservative leanings. (Ted Cruise of Texas is from Canada but no one would say that he espouses to hold liberal Canadian values.) 

This string was moved to LGBQ Politics section but what we have been talking about is not really politics but rather a liberal vs conservative moral issues particularly as related to Tumblr. Liberalism and conservativism are not political unless you put it in a political arena. Two liberal political voting men can have different views on sexual issues with one being sexual permissive another being sexual conservative. 

Censorship is not just prohibition but censorship also can mean just suppression.  I respect that the Moderator has the right on his blog where to put what where. But with that respect, I feel it could be more democratic and in the spirit of it being “all of ours” blog that message movement would be driven mostly by the membership or some standard protocols be followed. Our conversations about Tumblr  frustration was moved to LGBQ Politics section, I then ask should not messages started in the Watersports section that step over the line into Chem tainted piss be moved to Chem Sex section? I would hope that conversations could remain. 

[drscorpio]

I am from Louisiana and live there now. I am not the owner of the site, but I am the one who split off this discussion about politics into the place it belongs. 

[drscorpio]

If there are posts in Watersports that belong in Sex with Enhancements please report them. They will get moved.