Guest hungandmean Posted July 13, 2020 Report Share Posted July 13, 2020 8 hours ago, BootmanLA said: Trump is not a capitalist. He took tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars from his father and ran most of his business ventures into bankruptcy. In the process, by stiffing hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of contractors who did work for him, he caused many of them to go into bankruptcy as well. He was so notorious for defaulting not only on vendor payments but on loans that starting more than twenty years ago, no American bank would lend him anything for even the smallest business venture. He was saved from yet additional bankruptcies by (a) laundering hundreds of millions of dollars for the Russian mob, mostly through Deutsche Bank, (b) hiring out his name to every two-bit fraudulent scammer of a foreign developer who used Trump's name to steal millions (or more) in local money, with Trump always getting his cut, and (c) pretending to be a billionaire developer on TV by being the kind of sociopathic asshole everyone in the business world already knew him to be. As has been noted by analyst after analyst, his so-called wealth has been vastly overstated for decades. At one point, in a deposition, he admitted over half his "wealth" was what he - and nobody else - considered his "brand" worth, and that it varied depending on how he felt that day. Of course, this is nothing new for a developer who builds a 58-story building and declares it to be 68 stories tall because he skipped ten numbers when it came to numbering floors. Everything about him is a con job, a scam, outright theft, or simply false. But hey, if that's the kind of business dealings you think are admirable, that's great - it tells us a lot about you. As for your comments on socialism: leaving aside your conflation of various and sundry kinds of socialism and non-socialism as all essentially the same thing - while ignoring that much of Europe's modern governance has socialist underpinnings - I'll just comment that I'm glad to hear you are so vehemently against socialism. Of course, it has made some inroads here in the U.S. - most prominently in the form of Social Security and Medicare - so I'm especially glad to know you're planning to reject any and all benefits under those systems - as surely you wouldn't want to be labeled a hypocrite for benefiting from socialist programs. Dude you're trying to introduce logic to a guy who thinks because he attended an autopsy of someone with a medical condition he can't even quantify beyond, "Profoundly disabled," that it makes him smarter than you. He's at best a joke and at worst someone with a serious mental impairment. I'd tell him to eat shit, but then i'd be advocating for cannibalism. You're best to just disengage from his nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BootmanLA Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 3:51 AM, hungandmean said: Dude you're trying to introduce logic to a guy who thinks because he attended an autopsy of someone with a medical condition he can't even quantify beyond, "Profoundly disabled," that it makes him smarter than you. He's at best a joke and at worst someone with a serious mental impairment. I'd tell him to eat shit, but then i'd be advocating for cannibalism. You're best to just disengage from his nonsense. I don't do it to debate him so much as to make it clear to others that his arguments are silly. Too many people are unwilling to challenge insanity when they encounter it, either out of fear of confrontation, excessive politeness, or the mistaken idea that because everyone can have an opinion, all opinions are equal and worthy of respect. I call BS on that. People need to see that normalizing a malignant narcissistic sociopath is a bad thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyarizona Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 same shit, different century. "communism" = "socialism" = "progressivism." it didn't work in the 20th century & it's never going to work in the 21st century, no matter what you call it. the tide has turned, & the whole globe is headed back to a more conservative way of looking at things & dealing with things. the "democrats" have overplayed their hand, as they always, invariably do. they become more irrelevant week by week, with their rioting & their looting & their killing & their anarchy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BootmanLA Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 Hint: liberals aren't crying. They're laughing at the Trumpanzees who can't see they're being hustled by a third-rate con man whose con is falling apart around them as they speak. I mean, who could really compete with the president's spokesperson who said that Trump has decreed that schools need to open and "science shouldn't stand in the way of that". Well. That'll show that pesky science who's boss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BootmanLA Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Here's an eye-popping fact: Before Donald Trump became president, weekly first-time claims for unemployment (that is, newly unemployed people) had never exceeded one million. That has now happened SEVENTEEN weeks in a row. Seventeen weeks of more than a million people becoming newly unemployed and filing for unemployment. The current official unemployment rate exceeds 11%. It peaked at 10% early in Barack Obama's term and declined thereafter (slower than anyone would have liked, but still). The same folks who were calling for Obama's head then are strangely silent now, even though we currently have the highest unemployment rate since WWII. And this is before many of the bailouts received in the last few months, like the billions given to prop up airlines, expire. Meanwhile the death toll from CoViD is closing in on 140,000, is accelerating in most states, and is not likely to slow down over the next several months. But hey - buy Goya beans, because the Trumps think they're just swell. That's certainly a worthwhile use of time and the prestige of the presidency. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyarizona Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Trolling the "progressives" is so much fun; they have No Sense Of Humor whatsoever....... & they're all, invariably, DEFENSIVE. Being "defensive" is always a losing strategy, but none of them ever had any training in DEBATE, so that's not surprising! The Left is collapsing so fast it's almost like they've stepped into the quicksand they created! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BootmanLA Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 FWIW, I have an excellent sense of humor. I just don't find Nazis, white supremacists, or racists funny. As for debate: far be it from me to question the debate tactics of someone who tries to make his point with pithy misquotes overlaid onto photographs as though they were, you know, actually reasoned arguments. And it's especially funny to watch such a person claim others are "defensive" when his entire schtick consists of defending a white supremacist president. But hey, what do I know? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyarizona Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 You Leftist clowns are just completely hysterical in your desperation to paint guys like me as the enemy! It's so funny to watch your temper tantrums when you try to "debate" someone who holds a political view that is different from your own! Your emotional breakdowns & your hissy fits just show that you have no leg to stand on. How about trying LOGIC, if you have such a strong argument? Socialism & the whole "progressive" agenda have tried & failed for over 100 years. TRUMP 2020! Make America Great Again! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hungandmean Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Shitposting about how great my president is as everyone around me dies to a pandemic while the president tweets about beans.... to own the libs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyarizona Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 hungandmean needs a grammar teacher AND somebody who can teach him about statistics --- the death rate for the "virus" is less than 1/2 of 1 percent. The death rate for the "virus" is less than that of the yearly flu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyarizona Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Still burning down cities, "progressives"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Bottom Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 On 10/31/2019 at 12:23 AM, dirtyarizona said: I like pretty much everything about President Trump, but 2 things stand out: He's not part of the political class, at all, & he has managed to give 10 million "Progressives"/Wanna-be Socialists malignant hypertension! (Malignant hypertension means high blood that causes someone to have a deadly stroke!) TRUMP 2020 --- Make America Great Again! Proves the point that there are only 2 kinds of Trumptards, Stupid or evil (or a mix of both) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Bottom Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 On 11/1/2019 at 7:13 AM, Ranger Rick said: Democrats have made it clear they hate people like me; white guys who live in mid-America. They call us deplorables, bitter-clingers, and sneer at us from their positions of power. For all Donald Trump;'s myriad faults, he doesn't seem to hate people like me. So, there's that at least. He loves people like you who are as stupid and ignorant as he is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BootmanLA Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 9 hours ago, dirtyarizona said: Still burning down cities, "progressives"? Still burning crosses, white supremacists? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyarizona Posted July 19, 2020 Report Share Posted July 19, 2020 I like President Trump because he enjoys a good laugh, & he is not afraid to make fun of his feckless opposition. He knows they're clowns, & he knows clowns crave being laughed at! Jesus you communists & socialists (oops, I mean "progressives"!) are a humorless bunch! Oh that's right --- "Revolution" is a very serious matter! (I bet a lot of you are still cherishing your moth-eaten Che Guevera t-shirts!) Well guess what ---your revolution is never coming to America --- That dream/nightmare ended in 2016 on the night Hillary lost the election. How many of you are there? 5,000? 10,000? There is no way 320 million citizens are going to ever even let you get close to first base. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, citizens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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