LKMike Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 So, if I was infected Thursday, when would I first be infectious to someone else? Am I safe until I hit the acute stage, or am I infectious as soon as I become infected? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pozguyinchi Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 I am not sure exactly but I didn’t become sick for a couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKMike Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 I don't seem able to find the time frame you actually become infectious. Is when you get sick or before that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaserCurious Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 The problem with trying to figure that out is that exposure does not equal infection. Unless you did a blood slam or something to guarantee infection, you may not even become infectious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKMike Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 I just had regular anal sex, was told I was exposed to infection. Presuming I was, and I do have the infection, when will I be infectious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators viking8x6 Posted November 11, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 I cannot find any good information on this. I suspect it is because there are few cases where doctors have good information about the actual time of infection, so most studies are done based on the time of seroconversion. My best guess is that it would depend on the genome of the infecting virus and on the immune system of the person being infected, and that it is likely around the time of initial symptoms (2-6 weeks after infection) but could be before or after that. But that is definitely an educated guess. If you care, get a viral load test - there are reasonably good data about the relationship between viral load and infectiousness. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKMike Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) Thank you for the information. My regular tops are all undetectable, and I would not want to put them at risk. Edited November 11, 2019 by LKMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leatherpunk16 Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 This is a good question. What exactly is the timeline for such a thing? We read stories with sex partners saying "their very last NEG load" right during the sex when they got a poz load. It hasn't had time to work its magic. He might still have a NEG one tomorrow, or the day after. There's no logical way it transforms you that instantaneously. I doubt even the superbugs do that so soon! Prove me wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pozlover1 Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Here’s the usual timeline as I understand it. Your mileage may vary. The virus builds exponentially from infection. So it is possible but unlikely. The Fuck Flu is your body’s reaction to your antibodies, and the measurable presence of those are what usually are used to determine “poz”. A more expensive test measures your viral load and can pick it up sooner. Your Viral Load (toxicity) peaks for a while around that time, and during this period of time infecting another person through anal sex is nearly a “one and done”. After a month give or take, your viral load levels off to less than a sure thing if you are trying to gift someone or keep from it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKMike Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Thinking about it, there has to be one moment when your not, and the next you are. I am sure I am safe for now, just wondering if it happened, when that tipping moment is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators viking8x6 Posted November 11, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, LKMike said: Thank you for the information. My regular tops are all undetectable, and I would not want to put them at risk. If your regular tops are undetectable, you would not be putting them at any significant risk anyway, because they are already infected with HIV and already taking a multi-drug ART regimen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKMike Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 From what I have read, that's true as long as it's the same strain. If it isn't, it could be really bad for them. Thinking about it, there has to be one moment when your not, and the next you are. I am sure I am safe for now, just wondering if it happened, when that tipping moment is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyG Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 I don't think there's a tipping point. You start off only slightly infectious then it increases till it peaks. It's a sliding scale, and at what point it becomes high enough to infect someone depends on a lot of other things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigforpoz Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) I was told by an AIDS gifter that one is highly toxic when you seroconvert (fuck flu) which takes a few weeks after infection! If you choose not to take meds after Seroconversion, you should still be infectious! The reason to start meds right away after infection is mostly to keep from spreading it! Edited November 11, 2019 by kevy1109 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV6 Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 All I know is firstly, from charts that have been published by Aids organisations on HIV progression to Aids, that the virus load gets high soon after infection, then drops dramatically as the body has some success in fighting it. But the virus strikes back, the VL load starting to rise slowly and surely, with rapid growth in years 8-10 out of the usual 10 years to Aids for normal HIV1. Faster for tge Cuban CRF19 strain, slower for HIV2. Secondly, I know an unmedicated poz trans girl who was pozzed 1.5 years ago and she recently successfully pozzed a trans girlfriend chaser with just several fucks within a month. So this is a good indicator. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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