Adam4Adam.com has become useless...

[Guest]

After experiencing so much spam / fake posts in the past I gave A4A another try, primarily looking for overseas travellers / visitors / cruise ship visitors but soon deleted it again after being continually targeted by fakesters and South East Asians (despite saying anyone messaging me must be in the country or visiting). And in any case it's really not used by guys in Australia / New Zealand so only good for maybe hooking up with American or European visitors. In regards to fake profiles and messages it was way worse than Grindr. Who in their right mind would use it eludes me.  

[Syracuseboy]

13 hours ago, BlackDude said:

I find A4A in my town full of snobby, middle age queens, Who haven’t changed their picture in five or ten years, still looking for the perfect 10. You won’t get a response from anyone unless  they are over 50 (which I don’t mind). 
 

I’m on prep now, let them keep looking. 

If your near me I would take your big back cock and load 

[NWUSHorny]

16 hours ago, badubydo said:

I’ve done given up on it. Random early morning messages, whiny ass men who cry if you don’t respond immediately to their messages or crybabies who get mad because I put in my profile I’m there to fuck and have no interest in dating. 
 

🤷🏼‍♂️

That's a major problem with all of the sites here.  Everyone is looking to date, no one wants to just hookup for a fuck.

[ErosWired]

On 4/16/2021 at 8:59 AM, IEjaculate said:

I’ll modestly disagree that Adam is “useless” though this makes the signal to noise ratio a bit lower than before. 

It’s the signal-to-noise ratio that is the downfall of all of these apps because their essential function is to facilitate communication. The genuineness of the messages received, however, has on the whole proven so unreliable that the system no longer has the internal integrity needed for a functional network.

 In terms of these apps’ usefulness as hookup tools, however, here’s my hypothesis: I’m starting to think that they don’t produce that many actual hookups because there aren’t as many men actually interested in hooking up as we assume there are. I think the number of men with the drive, willingness, and lack of inhibition to actively seek sexual intercourse is smaller than generally supposed. The apps are full of men indulging in fantasies of what it would be like to hook up, or simply looking for participatory porn to fap to. I know that the signal I’m sending is genuine, but it could be that the signal-to-noise ratio is bad because there isn’t that much actual signal out there to begin with.

[LetsPOZBreed]

Probably not just an A4A problem.  I'll admit, I haven't logged into A4A in years, but only because it's not as popular here in Europe.  

I have noticed on some apps that I get (messages/woofs/smiles/footprints/whatever they are called on that particular app) from guys that are thousands of kilometers away, and there's no reasonable possibility that we are going to meet face-to-face.  I'm sure most of them are genuine, but I don't really see what fruitful conversation can be had with them.

If it's a guy from the US, I assume he's prob genuine and looking for chat...but I'm not.  If the guy is from a third-world country with a known penchant for spam messages, I just completely block them.

[BlackDude]

1 minute ago, LetsPOZBreed said:

Probably not just an A4A problem.  I'll admit, I haven't logged into A4A in years, but only because it's not as popular here in Europe.  

I have noticed on some apps that I get (messages/woofs/smiles/footprints/whatever they are called on that particular app) from guys that are thousands of kilometers away, and there's no reasonable possibility that we are going to meet face-to-face.  I'm sure most of them are genuine, but I don't really see what fruitful conversation can be had with them.

If it's a guy from the US, I assume he's prob genuine and looking for chat...but I'm not.  If the guy is from a third-world country with a known penchant for spam messages, I just completely block them.

If a guys cute and across the pond, I’ll send a message. Although I know we probably won’t meet, I don’t see it in any harm in complimenting someone and it is always good to talk to people from other countries or cultures.

[barebackbears]

On 4/17/2021 at 2:00 PM, NWUSHorny said:

That's a major problem with all of the sites here.  Everyone is looking to date, no one wants to just hookup for a fuck.

In my day, we fucked as a way of screening potential boyfriends. 

 

[Bymike]

I drop them several years ago.  Sad to say, in time, it reaches most sites.

[Guest]

So what App is a good App for bareback hookups?   I have barebackrt but I live in a fairly small city with limited opportunities.  Grindr works for me most of the time.   How about doublelist?  

[barebackbears]

2 minutes ago, Bymike said:

I drop them several years ago.  Sad to say, in time, it reaches most sites.

Most website operators don't realize you don't have to serve everyone on the planet, and as far as hacking, spamming, and scamming go, it's best not to. 

[BiAggieGuy]

Yeah, it is not as good as it used to be.  Years ago it was the place, at least for where I live, to pick up college bois. I can't even count how many fuck buddies I met on there.

Now it is mostly worthless.  As pointed out, a lot of bots, spammers, and trolls.  Right now I'm only hooking up with one person I met on there recently.

[yngguy712]

You know these services are only as good as the people that frequent them make it. Craigslist was simple and basic yet people put in a little effort.  Gay.com was amazing. The chat… Any day of the week I could find a date in under half an hour. First year I moved to LA I went on dates 5-6 nights a week, mostly from gay.com.  I met really great guys though it, including my best friend.  Yeah you encounter some duds but you would quickly forget them as you met someone new.

A4a… used to be good because it was the only place that was free and offered full access to full res images and unlimited messages. What a concept. But yeah, if guys go on a service and make a empty or vague profile, or just one pic and no profile filled out, what's the point?  You're not special. You're either serious or not.

In Los Angeles, this laziness has made online meeting really shitty.  Mostly filled with flakes, guys not serious or too big of pussies to actually meet. Any decent group of guys I've encountered over the last 5-6 years flat out refuse to use the gay meet up apps. Too many crazies, scrubs… married guys that have so many issues… arg.  They had their own social groups where they didn't need it.  Lucky them.

For those that are looking for something more outside of the box… whether that's a relationship or kinky FWBs or random hookups… well… A4A is probably still the broadest more affordable gay meetup app there is.  Every other service, even sniffles (that is such a horrid name), make you pay to have any real use. Well ok NKP doesn't but most guys never login. They seem to forget about it. Despite it working pretty well. Even though the cruising bit on mobile doesn't let you filter by age. (wtf)   Recon, been around forever but makes you pay for strange. (to really see anything). 

I love meeting in person.  I love the chase.  I've often blocked guys on Grindr or swiped left on them and then later on encountered them at a party or event and was totally gaga over them.  Some people don't come across well through a photo and a profile. Some people are a lot more than that. I fall into thaYout category. Takes a little while in person to get to know me. And it will be not what you expect.  

That's the fun of it though.  That someone can still surprise you.   In a good way.  Not like in a creepy psycho catfish stalker kind of surprise.  You just have to know how to screen.  And guys have to try.  Yeah most guys online are not worth it. But give everyone new you meet the benefit of the doubt, start fresh… you never know what you'd be missing.  But like most things in life, it is what you make it.

 

PS. Grindr is wayyyyyyyyyyyy too expensive and they still sell your personal data (or like the last 10 years just leave your personal info out there in a open API including your HIV status for anyone to grab).  Because of this, it limits most people to whom they can see.  Most guys won't or can't pay, so they don't treat it seriously.  It turns into this it's only as good as the immediate area in which you're in.  Even using explore doesn't show you all of the guys.  I drive to the other side of LA and it's like I'm in another world.  Ok so maybe that is at least a little positive note about Grindr is that it makes you get up and go out to a new area to see new guys.

 

Is Nudies club ever coming back?  That was good. Downey Boys.       I miss New York.  Sigh

Edited April 21, 2021 by yngguy712

[IEjaculate]

yngguy712. your points are all 100% valid and consistent with the situation in NYC. 
However, those issues have been there since forever. I believe that the issue in this thread is that you still need to confront that mediocrity *plus* in recent months, one will receive random “smiles” from members 1000s of miles away with profiles completely incompatible with the recipient’s (invariably the sender is looking for love and a relationship) and no acknowledgement of the distance (eg, “coming to nyc next week”). These nonsense messages used to arrive rather infrequently but now they come several per day. 

[Guest]

Haven't had many successful hook ups vis A4A but mostly due to the types of men not so much the interface and user experience.

[viking8x6]

On 4/17/2021 at 7:06 PM, ErosWired said:

The apps are full of men indulging in fantasies of what it would be like to hook up, or simply looking for participatory porn to fap to. I know that the signal I’m sending is genuine, but it could be that the signal-to-noise ratio is bad because there isn’t that much actual signal out there to begin with.

I partly agree, but I think more of the problem is the conditionality of the signal. If I'm "logged in" to a cruise app (I use Growlr, Scruff, and Grindr mostly) I might be checking to see if I have received messages in the last day, actively cruising for "right now", actively cruising for "later this week", looking to see if a FB is online, or just looking at eye candy. The same, of course, is true for most of the people on there. So even if there's a fair bit of signal (in the admittedly enormous amount of noise), it may not be relevant signal for a given cruiser. A few of the services have some kind of nod to trying to address this (usually a setting for "what I'm looking for"), but I haven't seen any that work particularly well. It's far worse in rural areas like mine, where the amount of relevant signal that involves less than a one-hour drive each way is so small it's mostly not worth the effort.