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Chatting to a guy on bbrts and he’s organised two nights of ‘parties’ in London where he’ll be blindfolded and tied down.

He says he’ll only accept neg or undetectable guys. I suggested he use prep but he says it doesn’t agree with him. I told him he risks getting knocked up and that I hoped all the men were being truthful but he replied “guys aren’t like that” meaning they wouldn’t lie. 

I know it’s none of my business, but he’s either naive or secretly wants pozzing. Not sure there’s any other advice I can (or should) give. 

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At the end of the day, I believe that everyone has a responsibility to themselves first - anyone who's neg and wants to stay that way needs to ensure that THEY take the appropriate precautions (PrEP/condoms etc).

Anyone neg, who barebacks, without PrEP, is taking a chance of converting and this is a risk that THEY themselves (no-one else) are taking (since they themselves will have to live with the consequences of their actions).

It's unfortunate, in this case, that this person tried PrEP and doesn't get on with it (assuming that they are telling the truth); however, if they bareback, then this is still a chance that they themselves are taking.

Unless this person is a good mate of yours, your best bet is to stay out of it.

 

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14 hours ago, BareYorkshire said:

I know it’s none of my business, but he’s either naive or secretly wants pozzing. Not sure there’s any other advice I can (or should) give. 

I think you've explained what he's willing to hear. (Any man who thinks "guys aren't like that" is delusional.) If he becomes poz, well, you warned him. 

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1 hour ago, evilqueerpig said:

"Guys don't lie"...yea, right...I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale...cheap.

I have some prime oasis land in the Ohio desert that I'll sell cheap too. It will be a great addition to your bridge!

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21 hours ago, BareYorkshire said:

Chatting to a guy on bbrts and he’s organised two nights of ‘parties’ in London where he’ll be blindfolded and tied down.

He says he’ll only accept neg or undetectable guys. I suggested he use prep but he says it doesn’t agree with him. I told him he risks getting knocked up and that I hoped all the men were being truthful but he replied “guys aren’t like that” meaning they wouldn’t lie. 

I know it’s none of my business, but he’s either naive or secretly wants pozzing. Not sure there’s any other advice I can (or should) give. 

Sometimes you just have to remember is after giving advice is it will not stop someone doing a party if they're attracted to that and of course chems will be involved.... He won't know what's hit him...... You tried so wouldn't feel anything if he later tells he's now poz. 

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On 4/8/2022 at 3:27 AM, BareYorkshire said:

Chatting to a guy on bbrts and he’s organised two nights of ‘parties’ in London where he’ll be blindfolded and tied down.

He says he’ll only accept neg or undetectable guys. I suggested he use prep but he says it doesn’t agree with him. I told him he risks getting knocked up and that I hoped all the men were being truthful but he replied “guys aren’t like that” meaning they wouldn’t lie. 

I know it’s none of my business, but he’s either naive or secretly wants pozzing. Not sure there’s any other advice I can (or should) give. 

that’s what some of us do before we accept that we aren’t regular cumdumps, but we are actually chasers. my boyfriend made me realize that by taking ALL loads and going to places where pigs go to fuck cumdumps I was already taking a lot more poz loads than I thought. also made me realize that I had to know poz guys were breeding me on the regular in bathhouses, porn theatres and cruising spots especially, where they were all anonymous breeders. no risk of an anonymous cumdump getting pissed at you for knocking us up cause we have no idea who you are, your name, your number, or in my case even what they look like. plus we are taking so many random loads it could be anyone. plus even though I hadn’t admitted it, I was often hoping the guy or guys fucking me were toxic. I even had guys that were secretly whoring me out exclusively to poz men but telling me the men were neg but I kinda suspected they were trying to get me pozzed. once men made me realize that I’m a chaser, I realized I was deluding myself thinking there was any chance I could stay neg being the community cumdumpster I am. he will figure it out sooner or later. better sooner so he can enjoy it.

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On 4/8/2022 at 12:27 AM, BareYorkshire said:

Chatting to a guy on bbrts and he’s organised two nights of ‘parties’ in London where he’ll be blindfolded and tied down.

He says he’ll only accept neg or undetectable guys. I suggested he use prep but he says it doesn’t agree with him. I told him he risks getting knocked up and that I hoped all the men were being truthful but he replied “guys aren’t like that” meaning they wouldn’t lie. 

I know it’s none of my business, but he’s either naive or secretly wants pozzing. Not sure there’s any other advice I can (or should) give. 

I am confused. prep doesnt agree with him? doesnt he know he will have to be on a similar if not exact same drug once he gets knocked up if he wants to live longer than 8-10 years. 

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I always think that anyone on BBRT who says “neg only” and isn’t on PrEP is either pretty naive or wanting to convert, but not yet ready to admit it.  I tend to think it is naive more often than not. In this case, I struggle to believe anyone can be that naive. I’d stay out of it to be honest. His sexual health is his responsibility and you risk being being blamed for not talking him out of it if he converts, and if you talk it out of him, you may get blamed for talking him out of a sex session.

Unless he is someone you actually think of as a friend I’d stay out of it.

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3 minutes ago, iman2004 said:

I always think that anyone on BBRT who says “neg only” and isn’t on PrEP is either pretty naive or wanting to convert, but not yet ready to admit it.  I tend to think it is naive more often than not. In this case, I struggle to believe anyone can be that naive. I’d stay out of it to be honest. His sexual health is his responsibility and you risk being being blamed for not talking him out of it if he converts, and if you talk it out of him, you may get blamed for talking him out of a sex session.

Unless he is someone you actually think of as a friend I’d stay out of it.

Bollocks. I thought 'neg' meant negotiable

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On 4/8/2022 at 8:27 AM, BareYorkshire said:

Chatting to a guy on bbrts and he’s organised two nights of ‘parties’ in London where he’ll be blindfolded and tied down.

He says he’ll only accept neg or undetectable guys. I suggested he use prep but he says it doesn’t agree with him. I told him he risks getting knocked up and that I hoped all the men were being truthful but he replied “guys aren’t like that” meaning they wouldn’t lie. 

I know it’s none of my business, but he’s either naive or secretly wants pozzing. Not sure there’s any other advice I can (or should) give. 

As someone once said, the best way to give advice is to give it honestly but to be indifferent about whether it is taken or not. You’ve done all you can. Time will tell if his faith in his intended casual sexual partners is misplaced or not. 

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