Male Sexual Hierarchy

[hntnhole]

Well ........ just opened where it said the title was ...... saw it there in the listing of documents or pf's or whatever, but it wouldn't open up again ...... I don't know what to do ..... 

[ErosWired]

I apologize to anyone having trouble using the form - it appears to work fine for some people but not for others, probably depending on how their computer or device is configured to read PDF files. I’ll try to come up with an alternative method, but in the meantime, anyone is welcome to message me with a list of their answers as a choice of 1 to 8 for each question, and I’ll send you the result.

[Guest]

I don't personally go for the heirarchy roles, posturing, role play, etc. If someone else wants to do this it is fine. If a man or woman or whoever wants me to be dominant and they are into kink or power exchange I will do this but only after we have communicated well, they have told me their boundaries or limits or hard no, desires, and we have set up safe words and a safe signal. 

[Guest]

On 5/5/2022 at 12:41 AM, ErosWired said:

I just happened to stumble across this just after I posted the topic:

I have met men who like being called certain slurs during sex, or during sex they basically want to be "treated like a prison bitch" fucked hard or "forced" to suck cock, or basically be a "hole" for a man or men who use them and own their ass for pleasure and their own immediate sexual needs always come first.  Nowadays men into submission, bondage, or being a consensual slave tend to love wearing those chastity devices around their cock. It is not for me as I like seeing men get hard, cum, and have access to his cock and balls; but if others want to do this it is fine for them.

[Guest]

On 5/6/2022 at 1:19 PM, PendragonSpirit said:

I'm going to be one of those people who doesn't subscribe to the idea of a "hierarchy" (and don't get me started on the whole "alpha" thing.) 

My reasoning is thus: that "hierarchy" would be entirely subjective to the individual. If anything, we have a very symbiotic relationship with one another. Sure, you could say that "alpha top men" are at the peak of some pyramid or whatever, but.. honestly, without bottoms, who are the tops topping? Similarly, without tops, who are the bottoms getting plowed by?

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with a little roleplay in the bedroom (or theater.. alleyway... park... car.. etc.) But in the end, for a satisfying sexual life, we all sort of rely on having the other groups available.

Yeah the self described 'Alpha' role is odd to me as well. If someone is dominant, agressive, etc. They would not need to keep proclaiming this constantly. I guess maybe the 'alpha' types are really insecure? Or they are more into just online role play? I have been doing power exchange for decades, have been to bars and the leather contests or events, and in real life or in person I have never met anyone who openly talked about being an 'Alpha' but I only ever see or read this term online on Tumblr, in porn titles, profiles on sex sites, etc.

[Guest]

On 5/5/2022 at 1:18 PM, highcountrybb said:

There’s nothing “manly” or masculine about men having sex with other men, regardless of top/bottom. Both are faggots, betas and at the very bottom of the sexual pyramid. We are in many ways, subhuman. We’re not really male/men as we’re “faggot” - a totally different species altogether. It is best that we embrace this biological fact and teach it to the world. “Please, do not judge me, for I am a faggot, and I was thus born this way.”

Margie: “Well hello, Valerie, this must be your son?”

Valerie: “No, Margie, this is my faggot. I don’t have a male child. I have a daughter and a faggot.”

 

 

If you need to believe this during sex to get hard and shoot your load, or like to think this about yourself as a person and in your life that is your issue, but do not project your own sex/gender issues onto everyone else.

[BannedWord]

So I've tried this now in Preview and Adobe Acrobat Reader on Mac OS 12.3.1. The results only show as zeroes and don't really update. 😟 Sad as there's probably a good deal of work behind this to make it functional, but I like the idea. 

[Guest]

On 5/10/2022 at 11:05 AM, onlyraw said:

I think your problem is trying to understand if there is “A” hierarchy 

I think most relationships have a hierarchy when it comes to sex -(there are a few that I am sure are real equal partnerships)

but the others have a multitude of hierarchies

there is your basic Top and Bottom 

but you also have:

TOPS and bottoms

power tops and power bottoms 

DOMS and subs

Basic Cum dumps and  faggot cum dumps, but also Proud cum dumps

And (especially on here) you have breeders, poz breeders, and even toxic breeders

the list is endless- and when you think you have listed them all you can double it by adding the vers guys

the tricky part is not to carry our sexual hierarchies out into the outside world- just because a guy is a no limits little dicked faggot cum dump whore and urinal in chastity   When it comes to sex - that shouldn’t impact how we interact outside of sex

The tricky part is finding the right guy that is the other half of what we are looking for sexually - and making sure - no mater what the position/role you are that it is the position/ role that they want to play with you 

 

What about just plain old bottoms who only want it BB? I have a gay friend who is a total bottom like to the point where he only wants to get fucked when he has sex, and it has to be raw or BB no barriers. He has sucked cock and licked ass but it was only to get the top man hard to keep him hard and so my friend can take as many cum loads as possible from a man or men during sex. If they cum in his mouth when he sucks them he will swallow but he would prefer and wants their cock and cum up his ass where it belongs, and he loves being owned and used by men for their pleasure and as a cum rag or cum dump, taking care of their needs and hard cocks milking loads out of them up his ass, and giving him multiple full body prostate and anal orgasms, and an ass full of cum. He has never topped and has zero desire to.

[rock-cock-jock]

I think this might delve into a deeper question of why do guys become tops, bottoms and versatiles. These axes can be pretty dynamic too imo, because at least for me, it depends on my mood, the chemistry with the other guy, age, level of horniness/laziness, etc. Or maybe vers guys are just more wibbly wobbly.

[phukhole]

42 minutes ago, TotalTop said:

Yeah the self described 'Alpha' role is odd to me as well. If someone is dominant, agressive, etc. They would not need to keep proclaiming this constantly....

My rule of thumb is "If you have to tell someone you're SOMETHING, you're not."

[phukhole]

18 hours ago, ErosWired said:

How interesting - Given content of your usual posts here I would have expected the EA, but as you so often talk about bottoming I would have imagined you coming out EAG. Did you notice, by any chance, how close your G-Axis number (3rd figure) came to 4? If it was in the high 3s, that would reflect the duality of an inclination for Topping while accounting for the pleasure you take in bottoming. Vers guys will normally land closer to the middle of the range on the G-Axis. Also, the G-Axis doesn’t just assess role preference, but also the way a person views his masculinity. So a Vers guy who might otherwise be on the line might tip over to Inseminator if he thinks of himself in strongly or exclusively male terms.

I admit, I didn't look at my G axis. I DO think of myself in strongly male terms.   I don't think of myself as a female in that respect, but a male who wants another male.  I can appreciate the female role and, intellectually, understand the "make me your bitch/knock me up" type of mindset, but I can't really get into it myself. It seems like play-acting when I try.  I'm not THAT submissive, even when I bottom, which might be why i prefer short anon scenes to longer drawn out scenes.  Conversely, I tend to be a little more dominant when I top, but not much.

[Japbtm]

I just have an itch that needs taken care of… or some nights I can’t sleep and getting fuck by a few guys helps… what does that make me? 

[NWUSHorny]

I got EAI, I don't really like the title, but the description is pretty accurate. I would question if you are fully taking into account versatility, I enjoy being penetrated and inseminated just as much as I enjoy penetrating and inseminating.

[hntnhole]

5 hours ago, rock-cock-jock said:

These axes can be pretty dynamic too imo,

I would agree, and they can become that way for different reasons.  Some men are simply "born" more dominant than other men, and Topping is an extension of that in-born need.  Some men are born with a more "sharing" bent, and while preferring to Top, can bottom if/when the specific situation calls them, however strictly that situation is created in his mind.  I think there's a bit of fluidity available, if Tops are emotionally able to handle stepping outside their preferred role occasionally.  

[ErosWired]

2 hours ago, NWUSHorny said:

I got EAI, I don't really like the title, but the description is pretty accurate. I would question if you are fully taking into account versatility, I enjoy being penetrated and inseminated just as much as I enjoy penetrating and inseminating.

When it comes to versatility, it’s important to look at the scores in context. Guys land closer to the center of the model as the figures for each axis get closer to 4.0 from either direction. Because the field is demarcated into quadrants there’s no way to ‘straddle the line’, but a guy could score as, for instance, an Inseminator but still take cock nearly half the time. His position in the field, near the center, is what reveals that he is truly versatile.