Why is this poz thing so exciting?

[Satyr99]

On 9/6/2022 at 4:42 PM, BareLover666 said:

My theory is that fetishising HIV and Aids is a coping technique we use, to be able to still enjoy sex because when you grew up seeing what it does it would scare you senseless otherwise. 

I'm sure you're right: doesnt stop the coping technique being incredibly exciting though, does it?

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Satyr99 said:

I'm sure you're right: doesnt stop the coping technique being incredibly exciting though, does it?

I don't know if I'm right. But thank you anyway.

I've never fetishised anything to the extent it replaced the core of my sexuality: Being attracted to another man; or to other men (plural) for that matter..

[garsento]

I suspect, simply, that a lot of people do like risk in sex. This relates to a lot of things, but HIV is one thing. That medical science has advanced to the point where people with HIV under treatment cannot transmit the virus and people on PrEP cannot contact the virus makes this particular fetish all the more practical for these days. I use "practical" to denote a choice that is not life altering.

It becomes something you can play with, even, in form if not in reality. I mean, it is true that someone on PrEP getting fisted and fucked and bred by a long-term undetectable top in 2022 is technically taking poz loads, right?

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, garsento said:

I suspect, simply, that a lot of people do like risk in sex. This relates to a lot of things, but HIV is one thing. That medical science has advanced to the point where people with HIV under treatment cannot transmit the virus and people on PrEP cannot contact the virus makes this particular fetish all the more practical for these days. I use "practical" to denote a choice that is not life altering.

It becomes something you can play with, even, in form if not in reality. I mean, it is true that someone on PrEP getting fisted and fucked and bred by a long-term undetectable top in 2022 is technically taking poz loads, right?

The risk of catching Syphilis before it was curable and could drive you insane, never stopped the spread.

Perhaps we as humans are just not that rational.

[garsento]

4 minutes ago, BareLover666 said:

The risk of catching Syphilis before it was curable and could drive you insane, never stopped the spread.

Perhaps we as humans are just not that rational.

People do often tend to believe that the worst will never happen to them. This may be the same thing.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, garsento said:

People do often tend to believe that the worst will never happen to them. This may be the same thing.

on the other hand, one cannot live thinking every worst thing will happen to them.

[viking8x6]

2 hours ago, BareLover666 said:

Perhaps we as humans are just not that rational.

My hypothesis is that humans (some more so than others) have an innate tendency to push the boundaries of the safe and the possible. Such a trait would explain a great many things that are otherwise puzzling - the classic examples being geographical exploration beyond the bounds of the hospitable, or even the habitable - the South Pole, Everest, the Moon...

[NoFucksGiven]

7 minutes ago, viking8x6 said:

My hypothesis is that humans (some more so than others) have an innate tendency to push the boundaries of the safe and the possible. Such a trait would explain a great many things that are otherwise puzzling - the classic examples being geographical exploration beyond the bounds of the hospitable, or even the habitable - the South Pole, Everest, the Moon...

I made a similar point earlier in the thread. Obviously, one can’t generalise why any human being does or risks anything. Call it an adrenaline rush or flirting with danger or whatever. And everyone knows the [banned word] is attractive, just as prohibition of anything - be it sex, drugs or alcohol - is the trigger of defiance. 

[NoFucksGiven]

Just now, RawPlug said:

I made a similar point earlier in the thread. Obviously, one can’t generalise why any human being does or risks anything. Call it an adrenaline rush or flirting with danger or whatever. And everyone knows the [banned word] is attractive, just as prohibition of anything - be it sex, drugs or alcohol - is the trigger of defiance. 

Goodness, I used a word I would never have thought was on the banned list. Maybe it has a lesser connotation over here. You live and learn (then die and forget it all!).

[garsento]

58 minutes ago, BareLover666 said:

on the other hand, one cannot live thinking every worst thing will happen to them.

That is true, but I think that living that way can risk of normalizing very risky situations.

The only way I can imagine properly living would be to constantly gauging situations, to be able to distinguish between high- and low-risk situations as things change.

[Guest]

31 minutes ago, viking8x6 said:

My hypothesis is that humans (some more so than others) have an innate tendency to push the boundaries of the safe and the possible. Such a trait would explain a great many things that are otherwise puzzling - the classic examples being geographical exploration beyond the bounds of the hospitable, or even the habitable - the South Pole, Everest, the Moon...

I knew I deserved a fucking Knighthood or at least a gold medal (which I'd probably pawn off) for being who I am. 😉 

[BootmanLA]

30 minutes ago, RawPlug said:

Goodness, I used a word I would never have thought was on the banned list. Maybe it has a lesser connotation over here. You live and learn (then die and forget it all!).

I suspect you used the word for "forbidden" that is derived from various Polynesian terms - for instance, used for idols that shouldn't be touched (see the Brady Bunch goes to Hawaii episodes). If so: that's because use of that word almost always leads to discussion of illegal activities like child porn and pedophilia. 

I just recommend remembering to use "forbidden" instead. 

[NoFucksGiven]

1 minute ago, BootmanLA said:

I suspect you used the word for "forbidden" that is derived from various Polynesian terms - for instance, used for idols that shouldn't be touched (see the Brady Bunch goes to Hawaii episodes). If so: that's because use of that word almost always leads to discussion of illegal activities like child porn and pedophilia. 

I just recommend remembering to use "forbidden" instead. 

You are quite correct. I used it in all innocence (and it’s not often I’m innocent these days). I will remember in future. 

[BootmanLA]

7 minutes ago, RawPlug said:

You are quite correct. I used it in all innocence (and it’s not often I’m innocent these days). I will remember in future. 

For what it's worth: I don't think it gets tallied as an infraction because the banned word filter stops it from ever appearing. It only becomes an infraction when you do something to deliberately get around the word - by deliberately misspelling it, for instance, in a way that's easily readable but that the filter misses. THAT is something that, when they catch it, gets a slapdown - and for good reason, because it's a sign you knew the rule and deliberately broke it. 

[PozBearWI]

On 9/6/2022 at 5:25 AM, cman54 said:

For myself as I get older the thought of getting pozzed seems to turn me on more and more over the years. I am not on prep and I don`t ever plan on taking it.  There is something sexy to me about be fertile to a poz no meds dick. I do like to talk about poz stuff with guys but at a bathhouse I will not as status and I`ll take any dick that I like . It is more about the guy and his dick then it is wether he is poz or neg. or whatever. I will top when hard but more of a bottom guy. Definitely want his cum deep in my ass. Whatever happens because of it I`ll deal with later.

I am at a stage in life where if I were to convert it is pretty much a dead heat that other factors will kill me before HIV.  So the motivation to avoid has declined for me.  That said, I've made it this far in life raw only and neg after all these years.  The majority of that PrEP wasn't even a thing.  Still, I am not "needing" to seroconvert either.  With a certain amount of confirmed natural immunity; combined with the fact that the only poz guys I know are undetectable I don't see the point in PrEP for me any longer.   

Poz talk during sex truly turns me on; as illogical as that is.  But I love it and on those occasions where it comes up, participate.