Self respect and humanity

[BootmanLA]

I would just throw out, for consideration, that for a lot of members of this site, the whole thing is one big masturbation exercise, and they get turned on writing things like "he treated me like worthless trash for the ten years we were together, and i loved it" when in reality, they'd throw a foot-stomping bitch-slapping screaming hissy fit if "he" failed to text that he was going to be late for dinner.

In other words, not only is the idea of being treated this way a fantasy for some, it's probably largely a fantasy that it even happens at all. As I've written before, there's a wide swath of members here whose every post is some version of "Look at MEEEEEEEEEE, Daddy!" - cries for validation in the only way they think this site can provide, by pretending to be the most degenerate, trashiest person on the site - only to be topped shortly thereafter by the next member saying "Me too plus this...". 

I've reached the point of not taking seriously any of these people who claim to enjoy that kind of treatment. I'm sure a small percentage of them are real, but honestly, there are too many fakes to bother with sorting through to find the ones who might genuinely benefit from support.

[littlemarcus]

i think it comes back to the "safe, sane and consensual" thing. 

In public / real-life i'm confident and have no self-esteem issues. 

In sexual play, i love being at the absolute bottom and being treated that way. i love being humiliated and degraded, i love it when a Top treats me as an object,  mere fuckmeat, when they use me for their pleasure without any consideration of their own. 

If a Top knows that someone has low self-esteem or self-respect in the first place and uses sex to push them down even further though, then that's cruising over into abusive behavior in my opinion.

[anonCUMtainer]

I LOVE this topic / thread and I am posting this comment to bring it back forward - as 'it' (this thread) needs to re-surface so that everyone can read and re-read @gaypigbb

Set the fantasies and fetishes aside for one moment and read the Original Post.

[subbottomguy]

I don’t have any issue with what guys using me or watching think, I enjoy being used and being seen as trash doesn’t effect me

[hntnhole]

6 hours ago, anonCUMtainer said:

Set the fantasies and fetishes aside for one moment and read the Original Post.

Well done, anonCUMtainer !!

[KindaBasic]

I never have considered myself worthless trash. You all should feel honored that I allow you anywhere near my hole. 😜

[ktopper]

I do not like degrading sex and will not participate in it. I have on a very few occasions engaged in some light S&M (mostly verbal) when a bottom wanted it but I do not think of him as worthless trash, I only do it to enhance HIS pleasure. That's the thing, sex should be pleasurable for all parties involved and respect should be automatic.  It should be playful even. A bottom who desires hardcore humiliation and genuine pain has psychological issues and is possibly on a path to self deletion and I want no part of that.

I don't want to sound preachy about this but I do have strong feelings on this topic.

[AlB]

When I’m being bred I’m full of worth to the top who needs to breed; when I’m breeding the bottom I’m breeding is the most valuable thing to me until my balls are drained and my need to breed is done.  Could I get all meta and existential about it and say any hole is just a hole either when I’m the hole or I’m using one?  Sure; and sometimes the moment takes me and/or the other guy there and it’s hot for that moment.  But like every other high (or low in that case) life goes on.

When we find ourselves in a situation where a guy we’re play with or usually when we’re contemplating playing with him and find he thinks that way or treats us that way then it’s a non-starter … for us.  Every guy’s kink is his own right (short of actual harm to others) and we don’t judge; but we do make our choice about participating.