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How Long After Infection Did You Get Fuck Flu?
jd13 replied to rawTOP's topic in HIV/AIDS & Sexual Health Issues
Yeah I must admit the thrill of the chase has a hold on me as much as the destination, and yeah I'd rather the fun not to be over. On the other hand, I have repeatedly said - on here as much as myself - that I'm not gonna test until I can be reasonably sure that that test will be poz. Bit of a fool's errand maybe, but as crap as I feel right now, I can't be sure this is fuck flu or regular flu. I have heard of one either guy in the area who had a regular flu and also got knocked out by it as I have. So yeah it could well be wishful thinking on my part tbh. And on the matter of being thrilled that I might or might not be shooting poz cum: I'm a total btm. That idea really doesn't touch me at all if I am honest. My function in sex has never been to be the one who cums. That runs so deep. My chase is for different reasons to this. Anyway, apologies if I've derailed this conversation with my current stuff - on with guys sharing their definite fuck flu stories! 😄 -
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How Long After Infection Did You Get Fuck Flu?
jd13 replied to rawTOP's topic in HIV/AIDS & Sexual Health Issues
Well, yeah, that is the only way to be certain. This could be regular flu but damn, it's a weird flu if so... -
How Long After Infection Did You Get Fuck Flu?
jd13 replied to rawTOP's topic in HIV/AIDS & Sexual Health Issues
This is strikingly similar to what I'm going through at the moment for about the past 10 or 11 days. Savagely sore throat, mild to moderate body aches, but just wiped out exhausted... for about three days, then a couple of days less so, then again hitting me hard. This cycle has gone round for the past week and a half and I'm in a rough phase right now. It's weird. No fever/chills, night sweats, rash (but a few weird body itches) or anything like that, and I tested negative for Covid, so yeah, could be a regular flu I guess, but also Starting to wonder if this is it, the thing itself...? -
My Last Three Grindr Hookups Have Been Blank Profiles
jd13 replied to jd13's topic in Your Last Load...
Gotta emphasise it's a total lottery, but yeah, there something that strangely adds to the thrill when you're about to hookup. Like: the anticipation of what kinda guy am I gonna get, he might even be hot etc, and also at the same time: I don't fucking care 🤣 Never set up a GH as I don't host but that is awesome. Also, I miss Craigslist SO BAD! -
But on the matter of Trump being a Crisis Cult... at least to the evangelicals (and let me say: crisis cult psychology doesn't operate consciously or even unconsciously in the individual: it is a kind of collective hysteria), I found these lines on the Wikipedia page for the John Frum phenomenon of Melanesia. Tell me you don't see the parallels - again, I am talking about the MAGA/Evangelical Die-Hards here, not the average American voter... "In one analysis of the cult, the figure was first known as John Broom, who was believed by followers to one day return from a distant land to sweep away the White colonials and return riches to the islands. In some versions of the story, a native man named Manehivi, using the alias "John Frum", began appearing among the native people of Tanna dressed in a Western-style coat, assuring the people he would bring them houses, clothes, food, and transport. "Others contend that John Frum was a spirit vision induced by kava, a plant with mild psychoactive properties. Said to be a manifestation of Keraperamun, this John Frum promised the dawn of a new age in which all White people, including missionaries, would depart the New Hebrides, leaving behind their goods and property for the native Melanesians. For this to happen, however, the people of Tanna had to reject all aspects of European society including money, Western education, Christianity and work on copra plantations, and they had to return to traditional kastom (the Bislama language word for customs). "In 1941, followers of John Frum rid themselves of their money in a frenzy of spending, left the missionary churches, schools, villages and plantations, and moved inland to participate in traditional feasts, dances and rituals." See [think before following links] [think before following links] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Frum for more and for citations of the above. D'you not see the parallels or is it just me?? [Edit: yes yes I know I'm totally grinding an axe here, and nobody asked me to riff on this Crisis Cult thing, but... yeah... 🤣🤣🤣 ]
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Yeah, to be honest I feel a bit bad about saying 'Trump is America'. Really I was reporting more on a British stereotype of a certain type of American characteristic that looms large in the British national consciousness. Of course it is a lot more nuanced than that. For example, it is very clear and obvious to me that Barack Obama is America too - that elevated, soaring eloquence he has... yeah, you don't find that very often anywhere else outside America either... And you're right about blaming it on 'The Other' being a standard populist playbook thing. And I recognise that a lot of the British media coverage is skewed because you are to us, after all, a foreign country. I'm fairly sure your news coverage of British politics will be similar lacking local nuance. What really resonates is what you say about those who are resisting. Not really seeing that reported in our news much here, but if you go on social media - wow wow that American resistance is visible everywhere. So yeah, I'm gonna stand that 'Trump is America' comment down, and apologise fully and completely for it. Really I was kinda reporting on a stereotypical British perception, and yeah... should've made that clear. Shouldn;t have been so unfair.
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How stupid is to propose taking a HIV test before sex?
jd13 replied to soki's topic in Making The Decision To Bareback
I... what the... holyfuckinshit there is so MUCH to unpack there! 🤣🤣🤣 -
Thanks. I was saying earlier to a guy on BBRT that I've spent so much time bent over taking it raw in the dark rooms here that I really couldn't say who has and hasn't fucked me anymore. It's entirely possible 🤣 ...and I fucking hope so. And if not, we should probably synchronise visits so that you can 😉
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I completely agree, and you give some good, detailed perspectives here from the inside of the US. I guess I was just trying to give an external, cultural perspective - not that detailed tbh - from here in Britain. Peace to you too man 😉 *** The other thing that I didn't say here, but have said elsewhere, is never underestimate the power of a Crisis Cult. Saw it a bit here with Brexit, and then the whole thing with Boris Johnson... and yeah, if I ever criticise the US for voting for Trump, never forget that Brits gave that utter fucking imbecile Boris Johnson a landslide election victory in 2019. I do believe Trump's rise owes an enormous debt to crisis cult psychology. There's something kinda 'John Frum' about the evangelicals who are devoted to him, like he is literally the Second Coming who will make all this liberal, gay rights, civil rights, women's self determination, progressive stuff just.... disappear. There's an old anthropology story about some Melanesian islanders who believed that if they danced a certain way, and prayed really hard, that Sydney Harbour Bridge would appear on the mountain, and they would become wealthy Australians. John Frum. Or the 19th century Native American Ghost Dances in response to the mass killing of all the bisons and the destruction of Plains Native cultures. The sign of something that's dying, and this is the last gasp. Psychologists call it Extinction Burst. This really has the feel of that for me...
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My experience is similar to @GuelphGuy72 . On apps and websites, I am open about being a 100% bareback btm, and during a hookup, I have never had a guy even take out a condom to fuck me. That said, if condoms are mentioned in the pre-hookup chat I will be blunt about saying no to that. In sauna/bathhouses, the vast majority of tops fuck bareback without a word. There's an occasional condom, but I just walk away from that. Sometimes the top will follow me and offer me bare, at which point I gladly give my ass. Cruising areas, I have only met one guy who absolutely insists on condoms. I've seen him about 3 or 4 times, and he always hits on me, even though I have turned his condom down each time. He won't fuck without. Everyone else either fucks bare, or will jettison the condom if I say 'bare only'. I posted a cruising 'Last Load' story recently, which included a guy who wanted to fuck me with a condom, but abandoned that idea when I promised I could make him cum in 2 minutes if he fucked me raw. Story at the link below - see Guy #1 😉
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Honestly if you work it, you can get a lot of action at Basement on a Sunday. Those dark rooms and dark corners are always busy. I even got in the sling there for a bit...
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Here in Britain, we've always seen the US as a close ally re: foreign policy, but we also keep Americans kinda at arm's length because although we share a common language, the cultural differences are huge. And I don't think Americans really realise that. But recently, even that perception of America as an ally is rapidly changing here, and that's principally because whatever your political persuasion here in Britain, most of us despise that kind of brash, vulgar, nakedly racist style of politics that Trump, Musk and Vance embody. Remember the Trump Baby Balloon? That was us. It says a lot about how we see him, how we see ourselves, and how we see 21st century America. Check this out: right now Trump has an approval rating of 13% here in the UK. Reform UK, Nigel Farage's far right political party, and the nearest political bedfellow to Trump's Republican party, is polling at around 25% Work that statistic through: half of all British people who do resonate with that far right, straight white grievance politics cannot stand Trump. That's how toxic he is over here that even the British white nationalists don't like him! That brashness, that lack of grace, or style, or dignity, that narcissism, that grandstanding... that's kind of a British stereotype about Americans anyway, and right now your government is broadcasting it in the Megawatt range. It's having a huge effect on the perception of your country here. We voted en masse for Brexit (well, I fucking didn't but anyway), and now something like 65-70% of us want a closer relationship with Europe. That must include a good many who voted Brexit, and a major reason is because America no longer feels like a friend to Britain, or Europe. I know a lot of Americans have been asking how America is going to survive a second Trump term, but here in Britain, a lot of us think, quite simply, that Trump is America, that he and his government embody so much of that sickening underbelly that America would rather not see of itself. Sorry to say these harsh things, because on an individual level, many Americans are warm, wonderful people. But fuck me, this is the underbelly bursting forth like the Alien out of John Hurt's chest. And very few of us are actually that surprised...
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ARE YOU A FAGGOT? • Do you get hard when Men order you to strip? YES • While you know you should hate being called a faggot, does it actually turn you on? YES • Are you most at ease when Men give you orders? YES SIR • When a Man spits on your face, deep down, does it somehow feel right? FUCK YES • When you jack off, do you imagine being dominated and degraded by Men? YES EVERY TIME • Do you like being fucked with other Men watching? YES I LOVE IT • Have you ever fantasized about being taken to a gay club, completely stripped and led around on a collar and leash? NOT JUST FANTASISED BUT HAVE DONE THIS (but only once) • Have you ever let a Man piss down your throat? YES OFTEN • Has a Man ever ordered you to jack off in front of a group of fully clothed Men? YES AND I DID IT If you answered YES to any of these questions, then you are a FAGGOT. YES SIR Embrace your true self. YES SIR Strip. Kneel. Beg. Obey. YES SIR I AM A FAGGOT and I am proud of this.
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For fuck's sake, that's the only thing you took away from this story? Wow, man, just wow. What a petty judgemental comment to send to a total stranger on the internet about whom - it is worth reminding you - you know nothing. You have no idea the depth to which anonymous trolls online like you bore the fuck out of me. Hush now. Since you're actually asking theese questions in good faith, I'm happy to answer 🙂 For me, breeding a hole has no pleasure whatsoever, no feeling of pleasure or even a sense of authenticity about it. It's so far away from who I am as a sexual person: my role has always been to do the work to get guys off, not get myself off. It's not merely unpleasureable... it's almost like asking me not to be gay, although that sounds a bit overdramatic tbh 🤣 One of the ways I know I'm a true and total btm is that my cock goes soft when I'm fucked, and after a few fucks, my ability to get hard again is pretty much gone for the day. I might get hard again after a guy has cum in me, but it's all too brief. The jizzjoy takes hold, but the boner doesn't. That's the sexual truth of me. My sexual identity is that my primary sexual organs are my ass and mouth. My cock is pretty much my own personal plaything when it's not locked up in chastity, but even then, i don't often cum when I get home after a sauna visit. My deep sense of satisfaction in sex comes from having given men pleasure the opportunity to cum: that's my authentic role in sex. I don;t often arrive home from a sauna visit still horny. I'm satisfied and satiated having made men cum. I sometimes cum the morning after, but not always. The implicit sugggestion in the above troll's snarky comment is that I somehow 'owe' another man my cum at the end of a sauna visit is absurd to me. No one owes anyone anything in sex: it's all about consent. I do not consent to fuck or cum in another man, ever. I consent to let men cum in me, among many other things. The implicit pressure - I suspect the above troll may not be intelligent enough to understand this subtle point, but you will - that to not do something I do not consent to is 'selfish' is laughable at best, and at worst, downright toxic. I've met guys like that, they give me the ick.
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I have an absolutely massive foot fetish. Licking feet is a huge turn-on, especially working the soles with my mouth and tongue as an act of submission, or just for the horny thrill. I posted a video of me licking feet on Tumblr recently. Bit rough and ready selfie vid but here it is, enjoy 😉 [think before following links] https://summer-of-jl.tumblr.com/post/780653647765831680/bit-rough-and-ready-but-heres-me-licking-feet Like, download, share on any platform if you like. I have a bit of an exposure fetish too 😉
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Oh this is all fucking awesome, especially that turning from a little bitch guys want to break to a power bottom riding cock. Again, another skill I don't think I could attain, simply because I'm tall, lean and athletic. Though I'm a total btm, I'm constantly told I give off top vibes, so no one's ever gonna say I wanna break that little bitch. Instead I get to surprise guys when they realise this definite top is gonna get railed like a whore 😉 But "I'm gonna break that scrawny little faggot"... fuck I wish I had the body type that guys would say that to or about me. And you're another one who can bust a nut when being fucked, so yeah another fantastic skill to have that I can't even! 🤣 But this remind me - those top vibes I give off... quite often I do attract bottom guys, because they think I'm top... and quite often, once the truth is revealed, they do end up fucking me. Not always... but I do have a track record in turning self-identified 'total bottoms' into temporary vers guys, even sometimes to a cumshot inside me. That's a skill to have, right? One I'm sure a lot of us have too 😉
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God damn I wish I could be like this. Once I cum it's all over a for bit, which is why I almost never cum during sex. Anyway, for me it's about making him cum 😉 Again, god damn I wish i could be like this too. When I'm fucked, my cock goes soft, and the only thing that will make it hard again is if the top cums inside me. getting hard is part of the jizzjoy. I am proud I go soft when fucked tbh because I think of it as the mark of a total btm, but yeah... there is a part of me that would love to be like this too. These are fucking good skills I do not have, and I think I would struggle to attain them. Awesome though, guys! 😉
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Beautifully put, man, and yes, it's a deep but often overlooked skill to have that open, responsive and enthusiastic energy when being fucked. To love that cock inside and not be shy about saying so. Yeah, I reckon that's pretty much the most important skill of all. And yeah I too just fucking love sex for sex's sake, the fun, the pleasure and release. But for me, the load is important too, his release into me. He he i'm such a hungry btm 😉
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Yet another trip to Basement sauna in Manchester last Sunday, and once again I was a busy little bee. Got fucked over the seven hours that I was there by innumerable guys… I lost count, could have been up to, or more than 30, I’m not sure… but I walked out of there with 11 loads in my ass that I know of, and 2 loads in my mouth. Lucky 13 for jd13 😉 Some highlights… First Fuck: As usual I get myself fucked within 5 mins of getting to cruising area. Publicly by a hot tattooed top guy who ignores me for the rest of the afternoon. Guess he just needed a warm-up, a cocksleeve to get hard with. Well, I needed a public fuck to neutralise those top vibes I’m always giving off… which clearly didn’t work because for the next half an hour all I encounter are bottom guys. Hot bottom guys who I’m hoping might be vers but once we get to a cubicle, or are done with kissing in the corridor, I discover are as total btm as I am. Grrrr. First Load: So I get to the dark room with the circular fuck table and apply my familiar technique. If someone grabs my cock, I grab their hand and place it firmly on my asscrack, as I grab his cock. It works. I am soon bent over the fuck table and taking it raw. A crowd begins to gather to watch, and eventually, participate. It evolves from me getting fucked, to a spitroast situation, to three of us bottoms getting fucked all face inwards on this fuck table. It’s hot. We’re kissing each other while getting pounded, a three-way kiss, which is always a little strange but fun. I start to feel a familiar crescendo inside me, and then, behind me, a gasp, a howl, and my top cums inside me. It’s fucking amazing as it’s the first load of the day. Must be potent as the jizzjoy hits me even through all the heat of the room and the thrill of the fucking. Recognised By The Fuck Alone: My top pulls out, but immediately I feel another cock slide into me. I love it when this happens – straight from one to another – and somehow this fuck rhythm feels familiar. I know this feeling inside me but can’t put it into words. I rise up and look round to see who’s fucking me, but it’s too dark and I’m too high on jizzjoy to be able to focus properly anyway. (Sidenote: I’m also mostly blind in my right eye, so dark rooms are a lot darker for me than they are for most people) Anyway, this fuck continues nicely for about 20 minutes, as the other two bottoms fall away. Fuck me, I remember being fucked like this before. In a way that’s perfect for me, that makes me howl with how good it feels, like lock and key, lock and fucking key. I think I moan this out loud at one point: “Lock and fucking key, man” Eventually, he pulls out without cumming – “sorry, I just got here” – comes to my front and gives me a big kiss, and at last I recognise him. We have fucked before, and I half-knew him by his fuck rhythm alone. A guy I’ve swapped names with as each time we’ve fucked previously, we’ve really connected. Black guy with dreads, short but lithe body, a smile to die for, and really gentle manner. He’s vers, and I bet he’s as amazing as a btm as he is as a top. Normally we jump into a cubicle, but he says he’ll see me later. Sadly, this time around, I don’t, apart from a corridor chat, but anyway, yeah… beautiful man. And I knew the way he fucked 😉 Epic Blow Job: Well, from here on I start trawling the dark rooms, getting myself fucked. They’re all pretty hot fucks, but I don’t know… I’m just being a load collector I think, which isn’t bad, tops up the jizzjoy, but nothing that distinctive is really happening. Grab cock, grab ass, bend over, slide in, fuck fuck fuck me cum in me gasp gasp fuck yeah bye. More jizzjoy. Not bad, but it’s starting to feel functional… In the midst of this I do meet a guy that doesn’t like to fuck ass, but – as I shortly find out when he says that I can suck him off – he does like to fuck skull. And he does. Today, apparently my gag reflex has decided to work, which is annoying, but I put it in its place by ignoring it every time it fires off, and slamming his tasty cock right down my throat, before giving him control of my head. He fucks my throat until I have cramp in my jaw, but I daren’t stop, because he is shooting buckets of rpecum, and far above me on my knees, he is gasping and howling for a long time. I think he is edging with my skull. This goes on for about five minutes which is a) too long for me and the cramp in my jaw, but b) brilliant for him, edging away. You know that b) is the important one for me: I take the pain of a) and let this man carry on, of course I do. It’s my job here, to allow myself to be his edging toy. Eventually he shoots his load, and it is BUCKETS! I normally like to hold it all in my mouth until he’s finished shooting me, but this is so much I’m having to gulp some down in the moments between his cock still sliding down my throat. Gulp gulp gulp noises as he cums, which makes him give a dirty laugh. “Fuck ye-e-a-ah-ha-ha” I hold him inside my mouth for a while, tasting that cum and precum. My mouth is literally filled here and I’m desperate not to drip any out, so I slowly pull off his cock, stand up, grab his hands and put them around my throat, so he can feel me swallow his big load in the darkness. He laughs again. I kiss his neck, give him a hug and say thank you before he walks away. Engineer: I take a bit of a break at this point, but when I return, I walk straight into the arms of a tall black guy, mid-40s to mid-50s I’d say, glasses, naked like me and the bearing of a gentleman. He invites me with some decorum to join him in a cubicle, and it is so delightfully polite. Of course, I don’t refuse because he is also deliciously hot, but in we go, and I am straight down on my knees to suck him. It’s a big, girthy cock. 10 inches plus, and wide. Now, I can take big and girthy, but it’s been a few hours by now, and my time out wasn’t really as long as I should’ve taken. I’m just too horny and hyperactive to stop for too long. I tell him that wow, he’s got a big one, but work my way down it anyway, which he seems to enjoy. He plays a hand on the back of my head and then lifts me up. “Yeah” I say “ Sorry, I’m pretty tired right now” “It’s okay. I can be gentle” …as he lightly turns me around with seductive hands, to get me ready for a standing fuck. We all know I’m, going to take this cock no matter how tired I am, but as he slides in, I realise he is true to his word. The fuck is slow-rhythmed, like a rower. He slides in, glides all the way in, then pulls firmly almost all the way out, then back in with this lovely pacing. (Sidenote: a day later, when he contacts me on Scruff to say thanks, I see his profile is listed as btm, but he has some delightful skills as a top) Gliding in and out of me seems to hit all my ecstasy buttons: the head of his cock sliding firmly past my prostate and P-spot makes me yowl each time with a shiver of pleasure, and the push inside makes my ass tighten. I show him my ‘Find the Head Of Your Cock Inside Me And SQUEEZE’ trick, which makes him chuckle in a deep voice, as I feel his hips hit my ass cheeks for the first time. Yes! I’ve taken it all, and if he’s been holding back up to this point, he knows he doesn’t have to. He tells me this by fucking me harder – never roughly, but the gentleness has risen to a firmness now, which lasts for a minute and then… “Fuck, that’s good” …as he cums inside me. And it feels goooood! We both pant and moan, and I do my usual thing of reaching round to grab his ass to push him into me. He obliges, pushes his cock deep into me, and for the first time I feel a bit of pain – and it feels goooood too 😉 Well, he pulls out, and afterward I thank him for being a bit gentler with me. There is a pang of regret in me to be honest that I didn’t just let him rail me, but there was something so gentlemanly about this guy. In response, he says “Oh, no problem. Once you gauge it by the eye, you know how much someone can take, and I knew you could take it all.” “Gauge it by the eye? You sound like an engineer!” This breaks the spell, and we both fall into each other’s arms laughing. As we make our exit from the cubicle, we’re still both chuckling, and I say I’m going to call him The Engineer from now on. He says thanks again – my god, he’s such a gentleman – and I take another break, this time for a good rest. The Finale: I go back into one of the dark rooms, and feel hands grab my ass. I immediately bend over and someone slides his cock into my ass to fuck me standing up, before quickly cumming in me and leaving. That’s a good hit. Someone else must have been watching this from the shadows, because the moment the jizzjoy hits from the guy’s cum, I am directed over to the fuck bench at the far end by this Someone Else, bent over and immediately fucked hard. No words, no sounds just a hard and immediately rough fuck. A third person must have been there – more on him in a bit – because my face finds his cock and starts to suck. This third guy grabs my head and starts to facefuck me, but I have to stop and focus on the fuck. Which suddenly gets a lot rougher as he puts two fingers in while he’s fucking me. Now, I don’t usually like this, but I’m a sub so I will take it. It fucking hurts now, and I’m not shy in howling in pain. The top does not stop fucking me or exploring my ass with both fingers and cock, but still no words, no sound from him, not even laughter or an expression of enjoyment at my pain and discomfort. Without taking a break from the fuck rhythm I am pretty sure he slides in a third finger… possibly a fourth a bit later on… as the pain hits new highs. This is not a pleasurable fuck, but as a masochist there is enjoyment in the pain, that I am being of service to his sadistic needs. This goes on for about ten minutes, until honestly I can’t take any more. An audience has gathered round to watch – I’m guessing they don’t know about the fingers – and I’ve got hands all over me. I’m honestly maxed out by all the sensations, hands grabbing my arms, running through my hair, tweaking my nipples, grabbing my cock. There are even fingers exploring my mouth and this fuck with three or four fingers just does not stop. Eventually, stupidly, I blurt out: “I need to slow down for a bit”, and both cock and fingers are immediately removed from me, and that Someone Else leaves. I never see who he was. There isn’t time for regrets though, as the guy who was in front of me and who I briefly sucked has been there the whole time. I’m guessing some of the hands were his. He immediately grabs me once he sees I’m free. “Turn around I’m gonna fuck you” I’m exhausted but I do as I’m told, standing bent in an odd position with my ass resting on the edge of the fuck bench, but hole still presented so he can fuck me while sitting on the bench. His fuck rhythm is a dream compared to the rough fuck with fingers, and there is a lot of hip thrust like he’s working his midriff to get inside me. He soon tells me to lie down on the fuck bench with my legs on his shoulders, and at last I can properly relax and enjoy his hip thrust midriff fuck rhythm properly. After about ten minutes of this fuck – actually a bit healing after all the pain – he cums in me, and I have never seen the like. Most guys when they cum, there might be gasping, howling, fuck yeah, hot breath and so on, but this guy releases a short series of VERY LOUD staccato bursts, like OH-OH-O’ as he floods my ass with his cum. We writhe around in each other’s sweat for a while before he helps me to my feet, emerge into the light and chat for a bit. Lovely guy, Manchester-born but Turkish/Middle-Eastern origin. He’s got that pretty face and eyes I love from that region of the world. So sexy. Well I dial around for a bit looking for one final load in my ass before I leave. A few more fucks and some close calls, but nothing doing, until I find that Manchester/Turkish guy once more. I tell him I just need one more load, and he offers. This time we go to a cubicle, and get a proper connection going on., Another good hip thrusting fuck rhythm, another series of staccato OH-OH-O’ bursts as he cums in me, and I am ready to leave, fully fucked, flying with jizzjoy, filled with strangers’ cum as always. It's 36+ hours later as I write this and those 11 loads are still inside me, steadily absorbing. Cum inside me guys… 😉
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