TownTravellerMan

The way this is phrased is wild. It's essentially asking if you will rape someone. I think some guys fantasize rape and confuse it with forced play or being taken. I mean I wouldn't put it past some guys to actually really want to get forced and not able to say no but I don't think they distinguish the difference that if it's in any kind of controlled or agreed to situation then it might not necessarily be completely out of their control. Because they are active and willing even if they want to surrender to their freedom and their will to say no or stop. That's fine if that's agreed on. I do like being taken by tops and men but I would not willingly put myself in a situation where I couldn't say no or get away if I needed to. In the past though I've been in very very questionable situations where some scenarios I got in were very borderline or me being able to say no or stop even when I wanted to. I've also had danger sense like situations where when I was younger and in a night club a guy kept harassing me and wouldn't leave me alone. I was 18 so I was super fresh. When the morning came because it was an after hours club he tried to follow me to my car and offered to drive me to my car. I said nope and kept walking and go to my car. I learned a few years later from another top who he is and that he was going to do everything I thought in a not fun way. His friend told me that he does to a large extend capture and tie up boys and use them pretty much against their will and whore them out. He said he didn't associate with him much and the bottoms did not really like him or feel that safe with him. I mean he was giving me creepy vibes at the club and stalking me to my car. And then once at a sex club I was servicing a guy but he was being really cruel aggressive with fucking me and having me suck him in a not fun way. He said he wanted to take me out of the club and to his basement and to tie me up. I was like nope. He tried to aggressively grab me and take me and I told him no and to back off. I also once agreed to let a guy restrain me when I was like maybe 20 who I didn't even know. I had a huge danger sense when he started to tie me up and said no I changed my mind. I did get tied up by someone later in my early 20's but it was after meeting them, talking to them and learning about them and it wasn't initially fully restrained. Later meetings I was. Those were fun and sexy time and situations though that we both agreed on. It's good to listen to your own instincts and feelings when you have them because generally they might be right. I also was in another state at one point and a very sexy guy was talking to me. He said he wanted to take me to his place and have some fun with me. Someone else stepped in and warned me that he takes boys to a place and ties them up with a mattress and drugs them up and uses them and whores them out. He did not deny this when someone told on him in front of me. He told me come on it will be fun and I was like nope. Now these situations I just described may be someone's fantasy but again these types of guys I'm describing the man does not care about the bottom or the guy they are with. They will not care how the bottom feels or thinks and what gets them off. They will take the guy and use them how they see fit and no is not in their vocabulary. Now for the less potentially dangerous situations and more fun and hot situations that have kinda borderlined on that line. Yes I have been taken at bars before and fucked by guys that I said no or stop because I was either done or not feeling it. And I was passed around when I was younger in those situations. Sometimes it was hot sometimes it wasn't. But I also knew I was putting myself in those situations. Also once in another state when meeting a guy I was unfortunately in a sketchy town. He picked me up and took me to his place and said I need to be careful because it's not a safe area. He took me to his place and he fucked me. After I said thank you and I had to get going but he said I'm not going anywhere and he's going to fuck me and use me all night. I told him no and I appreciate the time and have fun but I have to get going. He said that he was being nice to me but if I keep fighting him he will not be nice and I won't like it. He essentially restrained me and fucked and used me all night. I was not really enjoying it because I was kind of fearful. I let natural submission take over and just tried to please him and make him happy but he would not let me leave or say no to him. I just was his captive basically until morning. He said what a good boy I was and he wanted to see me again but the second he took me back and dropped me off I did not contact him again. There have been times I've gone to clubs or bath houses too if a guy tries to forcefully grab me and take me into a room or forcefully tries to fuck me and I am not wanting it or into him I do say no or tell them no thanks but if they are really aggressive I tell them to back the fuck off. It's one thing if I make eye contact and they do and there is a mutual spark and they man handle and take me. That's kinda the difference. And as for the sleeping and getting fucked that's also dicey. I've known a guy that got pozzed that way the guy he was with got him drunk and fucked and bred him at night. He was upset obviously because that's essentially date rape and also that he got pozzed that way. The point is you can put yourself in a situation that you want to be in. You can put yourself in a situation that you might be a little nervous about but might want to expand your options or test your limits. As long as it's agreed on mutual that's fine. And forced consensual fucking can be hot. But anytime a guy is taking you captive and won't let you leave and you want to leave or is fucking you and you either can't take it or don't want to and you seriously mean no or stop and they aren't. Then that is essentially rape. I am well aware that there are guys out there who will say "No stop don't it hurts take out I can't". And they are more wanting to play or pretend that they are getting forced or taken against their will. And that's fine I guess if both parties are into that. I think it's a little dicey though. You never know if a situation that you are in if you force something on someone and they say no can be taken serious and you probably don't want to find out. I like guys who are comfortable with how they want to have sex and how they want to be fucked or get fucked. If I am fucking a guy and they say stop it hurts and take it out then I will stop. I always try to let a guy i'm fucking relax on my cock and take it at their own pace initially because I want them to enjoy it. But it's hotter to me if they say "Fuck me, fuck me harder, fuck my ass, breed me." To me that's hotter then some guy pretending to not want to take it or saying it's too big and to stop and or take it out completely. I would prefer not to play with someone that either isn't enjoying it and it's too much for them or they are pretending not to enjoy it because they want it forced without actually saying they do. Just like when I got fucked recently by a big bear guy who forces his thick cock into my second, third hole? I don't tell him "Stop take it out it's too big it hurts." It does hurt sometimes but I'm not going to pretend that I don't want it. I like the pleasure with the pain sometimes. And I like pushing my own limits. And I know he can tell that it does hurt but that I am wanting to take it deeper and wanting to get fucked the way he wants to fuck me as well. This was a little ranty but I hope my examples and stories and experiences help to distinguish the actual differences between being able to say no and not being able to.

Being hugged by a big guy is definitely nice. I think that's pretty common with bears as well i think. A hug can be like a greeting but it can be also be warm and comforting. I thought about it some more a hug can be very sexual. But whether a hug is sexual or not can determine on the two people involved. Example when I get hugged by a man i think is hot my dick gets hard and leaky. And generally so does the man I'm hugging. I've discovered recently that some guys will grind their dick against you when they are hard and that's very sexual as well. And this is with clothes on. At the same time though I've hugged females and friends and no hard on or wetspot. But I think that's also a lot to do with the chemistry between people whether that's sexual or not. So I kinda did know that. However on an app let's call it grindr for the sake of the example 😭 They let you classify as man or cis man. This is apparently outside of pronouns which i believe is a completely separate thing. There is not really a gay/straight indicator on there. Which is kinda weird even for grindr but I'm new to it so maybe I missed it? But looking for it now. There are tags though and bi is one of them. But there isn't a straight tag?? So from what I've seen from several profiles it's almost like straight/bi guys are using cis man to indicate straight i generally see gay guys just put man. Just my experience and in my area doesn't mean the same for everyone. Shows how kinda fucking weird grindr is lol Also reading what someone else posted after cuddling parties is actually insane at the bath house. I can see that being a not bad concept in general but not at a bath house damn.

Well. This was probably one of the best days I've ever had. Where to begin. First off it's important to understand the events of the first post I made here about "hesitantly going back to that event" or something along those lines. I was hesitant about that event but I went anyways. I played with a few guys in the dark room and was getting fucked. And complicated stuff came up while I was there and that spun into a nightmare that I won't get into. But despite the brewing nightmare that I could not fully comprehend at the time I still stayed there. I was free after all and then I met him when I was about to leave. He was a beautiful red haired bearded man and I thought there is no way this man would be into me. But I was surprised and I cruised him a little and sat next to him and we sat next together and played. We made out, he did sort of sensory and impact play on me involving twisting my nipples, hitting me, slapping me, hitting my balls, holding my breath, and other forms of play like that. Oh yeah he spanked my ass too that was hot. We played a little in the open area and then went to a somewhat private room. We made out for hours and did forms of play and then I went to his place and spent the night. That began a series of events that have slowly led to my sexual awakening. Among the storm and chaos that was violently forming while we met he gave me the best advice. Be sex positive. Be a slut, be a cumdump, be a whore, be what you want to be but own and it do it because you want to. We have gone out a few times since then. But we have seen each other less and I haven't been the best at communicating things. It was hinted a few times that we got together that he didn't care if I fool around with others. And I have spent the night with him since then where we fooled around and did more sensual play/impact play and I had my nipples worked good. I also learned more about him and his style. I've felt since I met him that he has a lot of potential of wanting to explore things with me and he brings out a lot in me. And I bring out a lot in him. Well today we got together and had a meal and then went to a place of learning and fascination and wonder where people go to admire and observe art. I'm being coy about the place but it's an obvious public place where people like to go. Regardless of me being coy this is where the story starts I just wanted readers to understand the back story. The Public Restroom After lunch we went to the exhibit area. Before going in we sat on a bench. Up to this point we have fooled around in little in the car, in parks on a bench and that's been pretty much it. He's hinted he wants to do a lot more public play and I have sucked him in the park. He complimented me last time saying I look so good on my knees. Such a sweet man. When we sat on a public bench we made out some. He played with my cock that got hard fast and was taking the precum and licking it and having me lick it. Sharing. I sucked his finger too. Making out with him on the bench was hot and so was swapping precum. I licked him and bite him a few times because he enjoys that. He asked if I would do anything he says. I slightly paused and said yes. He said he noticed me paused which is good. And he said he wouldn't do anything I wouldn't like but I told him if it wasn't so busy I would get on my knees and suck him. He knew I would. We got up and went to the entrance of the exhibit building and made out in the front. Then we suggested we go to the bathroom. I followed him like a loyal little pup to the end stall that was larger. We both went into the same stall and locked the door latch. He kissed me and pretty much immediately ordered me on my knees. Being the good boy I am and testing my own mettle and potential without realizing it I was on my knees instantly. I licked his belly and bite it and he moaned. I rubbed my nose and mouth against his bulge. I undid his zipper and pulled down his pants. I lightly put my mouth over the cock in his underwear and licked and acted as if I was sucking him through his underwear. He groaned calling me a good boy. I pulled down his underwear and his cock was half hard with his beautiful PA on the end of it. It's a ring too but this one looked different then his previous one. I took it in my mouth and started sucking him. I remembered the second night we got together and I stayed at his place. I learned how much he really liked me to bite and chew on him. He brought out something different in me I've always liked biting but usually limited it to ears and sometimes neck and shoulders. I bite his cock slightly while sucking him. This is what he likes and he loved me biting and sucking him at the same time while sucking his cock with his PA. This PA felt different then the last one he had and it wasn't interfering as much and I could feel the metal hitting the inside of my throat. It was so fucking hot he was loving it. He said I look so damn cute and hot on my knees. He said I belong on my knees. He called me a cocksucker and said what a faggot I am. He said I'm a good faggot. I was loving sucking him and could tell that I could make him cum. Then the door opened. Motherfucker. I froze and got nervous. He expertly stood in a different area around the toilet. He motioned me to get dressed through hand gestures without saying a word. I stood and he motioned me to exit the stall and wash my hands. I kinda waited til the person left and left the stall and he left shortly behind me. I felt like I was holding my breath and trying not to breathe until we went to the giftshop area. I felt like I could let out a huge sigh and we made out a little bit before going to the gift shop and saying how fucking hot it was. We enjoyed the giftshop and then went to the exhibits. It was an amazing experience between seeing different parts of the exhibit I was manhandled. My hand was pulled, I felt him behind me several times holding me, guiding me, grabbing my shoulder, and I was just putty in his hands to shape, move, act how he wanted. I loved it and we did make out a few times in between. The exhibits were great too. When we were done we went back to the public restroom. The Public Restroom Part Two This is when I really got tested. We went back to the stall and I was excited to suck him again. He did something I would have never expected. He asked if I drank piss and said he wanted me to drink his piss. I did not hesitate. I got my knees and he took out his cock and took it in his mouth. True to his word he did piss in my mouth. To say it's been years since I've drank piss is an understatement. When I was younger..in my 20s I first tried it with someone and it was horrible I hated it. Then I tried it at a bar and it was hot I was surprised I drank it all with just a little struggle the Sir Top was surprised too. He said I was a natural piss drinker. It was also a campground area and that night I went to the showers and various men pissed on me and pissed in me. Then a few years later I went to a bar in a very popular and well known gay town. And it was also a leather bar. I don't know why I did it but at the urinal I saw a man and he looked at me and I got on my knees. I remember saying "Do you need a urinal Sir?". He called me a faggot and a good boy and said he hasn't tried it but he wanted to use a fag. He pissed in my mouth and I drank it all he was drinking beer. After I took all his piss he gave me some of his beer and poured it down my throat and said I'm a good fag boy and thanked me. That wasn't the last time I drank piss I think it was also a time at a campground but those details are hazier. Sorry to get lost in memories haha. Back to the present with the incredible man who's re-awakening me. Those memories flashed through my mind as I was drinking his piss. I was swallowing it. Now like I said it's been years so I was no fucking expert. I got a good amount of piss my my mouth cheeks like a chipmunk or slightly before that exaggerated look and feeling. I swallowed about 3 times a large amount of piss. He did not piss in a steady stream so I was not able to just keep drinking it which threw me off. There was a point where my mouth was OVERFILLED and I couldn't swallow. I unfortunately had to lean over to the toilet and spit the piss out. He pissed all over the seat. I tried to guide his beautiful PA cock to aim it into the bowl the rest of his piss but he was not trying to aim. I caught my breath afterwards and swallowed. Instinctively I grabbed the toilet paper and cleaned the seat covered in piss. I even used the toilet paper to clean the floor. I then used the toilet paper to clean his shoes a little he got some piss on his jeans. I realized later he didn't mind. But I think he liked me frantically trying to clean up the piss. He lifted me up after I cleaned everything up and he kissed me. He still made out with me even though my mouth probably smelled like piss. His piss did not taste bad though it was just excessive in volume. He got on his knees and he sucked my cock. I was fucking rock hard. He loved playing with my foreskin and making me wince. But he also alternated between sucking me. He looked so fucking hot sucking my cock with his beautiful red long beard. I pictured his beard and face covered with cum and got harder. I actually wanted to fuck him and I have fucked him before. Not publicly though. I was loving fucking his face and I pulled on his beard and he loved it. I licked and bit his face and he groaned and moaned. God he's just as good at taking as he is at giving. Before I could do more or cum I heard a door open. Motherfucker times two. This time I strategically pulled my shorts down and sat on the toilet. He stood on the side of the toilet hiding his shoe presence. I really did have to piss too so I pissed naturally while sitting which I was hoping would make me appear to be using the stall normally. To my surprise he started fingering my hole while I was on the toilet. My dick was getting so hard I prepped and cleaned myself before I went out of course but having my hole played with and fingered while sitting on a toilet pissing is very very new for me. And there aren't a lot of new things for me. After they left I got up but someone else came in. Agh god dammit again. I still had to pee though so it was kind of fine and he continued to play with my hole and I felt like so horny and was precumming while trying to pee. After they left we decided it's too risky and to bail. I spit and washed my mouth with water and washed my face with soap and water. After we got out of the bathroom and left the building I asked if that offended him and he said it did not. He said he didn't mind kissing my pissy mouth though and said it's hot that my belly is full of piss. God this man is incredible. As we walked to our cars I went into his. We made out some and I played with his pierced nipples. I loved twisting them and pulling his beard and he loved his nipples pulled hard and beard played with. I sucked his nipples too but I was a little too rough I forgot how much pressure to use with my teeth. But I recovered and remembered it has been a little since we've seen each other I remembered most everything else. This man has trained me so well from just a few encounters. We made out some more and stopped a few times when people were walking by since it was in public technically still. Talking about Our Potential This next part is more about talk but there are hot elements. There is more FUN to come after though. I openly asked and tried to clarify some things about us learning about each other and where things are going. I also stated some things that I wanted and he listened and understood and stated we will try to see each other more. We have only been seeing each other once or every two weeks. I was really happy and relieved he was open to seeing me more. And while the future is still uncertain it seems like it's something we want to explore together. He mentioned some ownership-like aspects the last time I was at his place and I hesitated then. I did not now. He suggested the idea of us meeting up a public place and playing in a future outing or even at a play area like a bath house or book store similar to how we met. And him having guys use me. I said fuck yes. I also owned up to the fact that I have been playing with others in between our meetings. He pretended to shame me but laughed and said that's bad but fucking hot. He said he has played a little in between too at a place I like to go to sometimes. I initially told him just a small number of play area places I've gone to some of the ones I've posted here. But as we talked more I told him some guys I've hooked up with as well in between and some places I've gone to find guys to hook up with. His responses were just hot, sexy, and fun and said I'm a good faggot. He said a few other fun verbal things too. He has some ideas for me in the future for areas and playing with others. He re-assured me I can tell him as much as I want and it's up to me but he says it's hot to hear about. I told him that I can see in his eyes that he has plans for me. He said yeah but it will be fun. And I said it definitely will. In between times of fun we will also find more times to get together as well. It's so ironic and I even told him how last Friday. The story I wrote about me going to the bar and being led around by the Sir sucking guys and sucking off the leather sir in the public open hallway and fucking and being bred by the hot young bear cub at the book store. That I stupidly kinda felt like he maybe wasn't wanting to have sex with me but I said how stupid that was considering everything we did today. And that the self doubt I've had is completely gone. I think the man knows that I want to be his boy. And I think he wants me to. We made out some more after this talk and me sharing some fun stories and experiences from the past and him sharing some of his. I can tell that at the moment I do have freedom but I can tell a point might come down the line where he has more control over who I play with or there might be times where he doesn't want me to for a form of his own pleasure for a short amount of time. That's perfectly fine as long as we discuss and agree with things I believe the dynamic will work. I'm just in shock and awe at all of this how understanding and positive (lol) he is about all this. But it's like the sex positivity he told me when we met. He really means it. And he called me more fun verbal names while we made out some more. Damn we did a lot of making out in that car. We unfortunately had to say goodbye. But to my surprise he asked if I was going to the bookstore. My eyes widened and he said if I want to go then go and have fun. He said he'd like to hear about it if I do go. I told him I wasn't entirely sure but I'd let him know if I do. He had to go home and do some work. We had a few more embraces and kisses and then he drove away. Siri take me to the adult bookstore 😭 Literally what I said to my car as soon as I got in. Like no fucking hesitation. I was so fucking horned up and not full of sexual frustration. But full of encouragement, piss, desire, and lust. I arrived there and saw it was relatively packed. I kinda got on a hook up app but then decided fuck it. I got my stuff and walked in and paid. And to the corridors I go. There were a few hot guys around. I cruised a few guys but signals were not clear. I saw a cute otter cub but could not tell if he was into me. I went into a booth and saw him sitting with his cock hard and up. I got on my knees and like the eager boy I am I licked my lips and looked at him. He looked at me and I saw his cock twitch. He had a nice size cock. He stuck his cock through the glory hole and I sucked him. He tasted pretty good. I was enjoying sucking him and in no time at all I could taste a salty tangy taste as his cock was deep down my throat. Fuck the hot otter cub was cumming in my mouth. I sucked him to completion and I thanked him. Next I walked around some more and went into my favorite row of glory holes in the middle. I saw a guy come in with a trimmed beard. He looked at me on my knees and pulled out his cock. He was uncut and damn his cock was kinda pointy and long. I was enjoying sucking him but started to choke a few times. I decided to do what I wanted. That Friday night I went to the bar and the Sir Daddy lead me around sucking his friend's cock and playing with me. I could have easily sucked that man's cock. I could have rode his cock. The guy I played with in the dark room there he would have fucked me with that hot curved cock. That hot leather daddy I sucked off in the hallway would have fucked me too. I decided to take control and brave it and I pulled off the guy's cock. I took my shorts down and put my ass against the glory hole. He pressed his cock head against my tight ass. Fuck he was long. I felt him go in me and I groaned as he started fucking me bareback. I took my ass and backed up on him more. I also twitched and clenched my hole. He fucked me for a few minutes but he changed and had mostly the tip of his dick fucking my hole. It's like he was jacking off in my hole. I felt a huge load and he fucked the load into me. Fuck his load was damn huge fucker flooded my ass. Once he emptied in me he pulled off me. I thanked him and he went on his way. I went to the bathroom and pissed but kept the load in me. I saw a few more hot guys. I sucked two other guys in the glory holes. Two more bearded daddies one older and one younger. They were both moaning and enjoying it but then they pulled off. I didn't suck them both at once but they both acted the same. Once they pulled out of my mouth the wiped their dick and left the booth. I wonder if they were trying to save their loads or were together. I didn't try to ride them but maybe I should have. I saw a cute older man go into the dark room. I sucked him and got him hard. I bent over and he pushed me against the wall and fucked me. Another bottom was getting fucked and I was sucking his dick while I was getting fucked. The guy pulled out of me and was playing with someone else. I pulled up my shorts and left the dark room. I tried to cruise a few other guys but more mixed signals. I did have my eye on a hot white haired and white bearded daddy bear. I thought he was maybe looking at me but wasn't sure. I went to the front of the area and looked at an open booth. I didn't realize he was behind me and I walked in the room and he followed me in. He said I'm a fucking hot and sexy boy. I said he's a hot daddy. He was wearing a sexy blue shirt too I loved and admired his style. But he literally pulled me to him and we made out a little. I pinched his nipple and he groaned. He grabbed my ass. I sucked his nipple and he loved it and put me on his other nipple. He did not seem to want too much foreplay he grinded against my hard cock with what felt like a huge hard cock in his pants. And he kept pawing my ass. Nothing fucking hotter then a hot daddy bear that wants ass. Cannot describe how hot the feeling is to be a horny boy in the eyes of a hungry bear. He put me on my knees and the hot white bearded daddy bear was not wearing underwear. He had a huge curved cock. I put my mouth on his cock and started sucking that beautiful curved bear daddy dick while on my knees. He loved me sucking him he was in such sensory overload. He pulled me off and made out with me some more. He said "it's time boy I want to fuck". I took my clothes off completely. He complemented my hard leaky dick. I told him my dick is always hard and leaky around hot daddy bears. Not fucking lying it is. It's sweet honey nectar for the bears I suppose 🤣. Especially after what happened earlier in the afternoon hahaha. He got nervous when I told him I was poz but I told him I was undetectable. He said he generally fucks with condoms. I told him that's fine. But he didn't have any. It wasn't fine but I wanted that daddy bear dick however I could get it. I never carry condoms so that wasn't a lie. He decided fuck it he pressed his hard curved daddy bear dick at my sloppy cummy boyhole that was still tight. Fuck he felt so big when he was pushing in me and he to no surprise decided to fuck me bareback. I yelped out. He said I'm fucking tight and that daddy bear was going to wreck my hole. He said that I will get fucked and not a quick one. He was not kidding. He fucked me bent over for a good while and pulled out several times and we made out and then he fucked me some more. I could tell he was trying hard not to cum. At one point I was naked on the sort of cushion area and laying on it like a good whore slut faggot taking daddy bear's dick and my head being pushed against the wall. The thump of my head hitting the wall hurt a little but daddy bear was having fun using my boy ass for his pleasure. He said he really did not want to cum but I kept clenching my ass trying to get him to cum. A eureka of a memory unlocked. Years ago I played with a leather Sir who was HEAVY into bdsm with me. I was played with in various ways. I remember once in a sling like contraption partially constrained when he was fucking me with his big Sir Daddy leather dick. He told me did not want to cum yet. I rode his dick anyways and clenched my ass. He said I better not make him cum. He said boy you are making me cum I'm not ready yet. But he shouted at me calling me a fucking whore of a boy as he bred me. He did spank and flog me after disobeying him but it was worth it. Heheh I was a cheeky fucker and the main did not own a claim on me. But we had fun sessions and fuck sessions. He also had a husband so I wasn't really his boy just a boy he played with occasionally. But maybe I'm out of practice yeah I probably am but could not get the bear to cum. He even told me "Nice try boy but I'm going to keep fucking you". Haha at least I tried. I asked him if I can ride daddy bear's cock while he sits down. He said go for it boy. He sat down and I took a breathe and felt his huge daddy bear dick opening my hole even more and I tried to ride him. He was loving me riding him but the daddy bear stood up and I had to press my hands against the video both video screen while he was fucking me. Unfortunately a friend of his kept knocking on the door several times while we were fucking. He kept opening the door and no one was there but said his friend might be ready to leave. He wanted to keep fucking me. But eventually he gave up and said that he wants to fuck me more but his friend was waiting and he had to go. He did take my number though. What is up with daddy bears with holding their cum from breeding me 😄 He was very up front with me after and we went to the bathroom together to wash up a little. He asked if I have a partner, husband, boyfriend, am I seeing someone? He said you are seeing someone aren't you. Of course I'm not going to deny or hide the amazing budding potential that's building between me and that man. I told him honestly that I am getting to know someone. That we've seen each other several times and are progressing. But I told him that he's fine with my playing with others and thinks it's hot and fun. I told him I even texted him and told him I was at the bookstore and that I sucked a guy off and got bred by a guy a little while ago. And I actually did text him that. He texted me how hot it was and encouraged me and also wished he was there to see it. The daddy bear told me that's great and he understands my situation and said he does want to see me again. There wasn't too much else that happened after the hot white bearded daddy bear. A guy did brush up against me when I left the bathroom and smiled at me. I thought he wanted to play with me but I made passes at him and he turned me down. There were some hot guys but none of them seemed to be into me which is fine. I had an amazing day with a sexy special man. And I got to have fun getting fucked and sucking cock there a few times. I was more then satisfied and full (Literally full of cum and piss.) So I left. I texted him letting him know that I left the bookstore and heading home. I let him know I got home safely and showered and needed it so bad. He said what a fun and sexy slutty boy I am and how he had an amazing day with me. I actually did hear back from that fun grey bearded daddy bear while typing this haha so I'll probably get together with him soon. I cannot state how amazing today was. And after the talk I had with him I know there are going to be more exciting, exploring, and awakening days ahead in the future. I cannot wait. I will probably take a break from fucking and sucking for a few days as well 😛 Oh right load count time. 1 Load Swallowed 1 Load Taken from Being Bred Til next time.

The younger thing you mentioned before makes sense. And yeah anal can take prep work and time but I don't mind the prep because the payoff is worth it. That's actually kinda wild. Do they message you and be like "let's hug". I have not come across that. You are right that's not sexual. I don't really have preference for tall or short but maybe some guys like tall guys. Do their profiles say if they are straight or gay or etc. Some have the option for cis now which is kinda crazy. I assume that means straight? Lol

I love the background and explanation you gave for this. I never thought about guys who are new to guys and being gay or bi. But that actually makes a lot of sense and as you said starting off as a side. I agree with being a side is probably fine for whatever reason someone chooses to be. What I've come across though are profiles where the guy states they are gay. I just kinda assumed they have been gay for years and for whatever reason don't bottom or top and that's what initially confused me and got me wondering about them. But I never considered that they could be new to men altogether. I am kinda glad it's not all one "sided" answers here as well 🤣 In all seriousness it's surprising in a good way. I thought that for a forum that caters around breeding it would be one sided. It's more interesting that it's not.

Maybe it hasn't caught on enough then. Power Cuddler doesn't sound like a bad shirt I wouldn't assume that would mean someone is 99% committed side. But I guess if they are the bath house to cuddle maybe that indicates a side? I haven't been to the bath house that frequently so I don't know cuddling there is the norm or not. Man glow in the dark bracelets. That takes me back. I do think that a bath house did that several several years ago. Rip to those who are even remotely color blind with that color scheme. I believe in the past when that was done in my area at least it was only two colors top or bottom lol. Blackout nights at the sex club/bath house were also more common back then so the color light indicator helped with that. Having the colors faded sounds like a horrible way to mix things up. I mean they are there for sex and so are you even if you deviate from what their color states by accident it shouldn't be that big of a deal I'd think. Going to a cumunion and not hearing the sounds of people fucking is absolutely insane. That's the entire purpose. Not one area at all? Maybe they are all in some corner or part of the area. At that point what is even the point of cumunion if no one is fucking. I've been to some in the past in my city and they have been an absolute blast. They have also had them at parliament house and those have been really fun too. As well as other events there. I would almost want my money back if I went to a cumunion and not a single guy was fucking at all lol. I mean travelling for sex in general can be a lot of fun. Did it a lot when I was younger still have some cities in mind that I'd love to visit again and some for the first time. In time I'm sure. I'm glad that where I am for the most part has a good scene though.

I honestly had no idea that it was such a new term. I didn't know that there was uncertainty about the actual term and the meaning itself as well. Pretty some sites like BBRT let you just select anal=no and oral=no if you don't like either of them. Functionally lesbian is kinda insane. I had no idea this was discussed before. I literally did a search for side and different things came up. Sideways, side eye, side? I didn't see anything specific to the side status. But maybe I'm just poor at searching here but I am new though. At least it was a good while ago that it was brought up. I agree about the shaming or being too hard part though. Especially mental illness since that's what they used to say about gays years ago. There have actually been Jack off groups and spanking groups in my area. The spanking groups years ago were actually pretty fun and they did lead to more. I think I went to one Jack off party once and it was kinda eh just guys jacking off not really my vibe. I did realize there are suck groups now but they are being held more like as contests and at bars no less. That's an interesting bar 🤣. But you are probably right that at the end of the day it's really just an oral group especially since they do it regularly. I can't speak much about cumUnion parties since the one I went to last guys were fucking and sucking and in the dark in the open. I didn't really see any sub group of people just doing oral or something outside of what the group is likely intended for. I have kinda realized that after I wrote this that I kinda did get together with a guy that did tell me he never tops for some reason. I didn't ask why because I wanted to see if there was a chance. And I did end up fucking him and I rode him for a little bit too. He seemed to enjoy the being rode part. So I am kinda curious about the mindset of guys who either say "Absolutely no anal or oral". Does their mind change if it they get together with a guy who they like? Or do they stick to their guns. I kinda feel for the most part there's a large majority of guys who once they are in the bedroom and in the heat of the moment might be wanting to do things that they normally don't do or haven't tried. But I understand that for the majority and depending on what kind of city area you live in. If you live in a place with not many guys or options around if all you saw is sides and no main entrees then yeah that would be pretty annoying. Sorry this side terminology is just throwing me off I'm trying to internalize my puns but it's failing. At least some of the profiles that I've seen they seem to like kissing, body contact, cuddling, sensual, and sometimes some nipple play and that's like foreplay basically. And that's actually great for foreplay. I am kinda curious of what constitutes as "release" for them or gets them off for the ones that don't like oral/anal at all. I know they have gay apparel and stuff for tops/bottoms, boy/Daddy/Sir and stuff like that. I wonder if there is side printed apparel now. I mean the whole pup thing wasn't really a thing years ago and now it so probably likely. I think ultimately I'll try not to write someone off from being side if there is chemistry, attraction, and other things there. But if it was looking like a relationship type deal then that itself would likely be a deal breaker. Curious to actually play with a side now and see what it's like. I mean I was before writing this but even more so now.

So I recently found out what this means. Or at least I think I did. I haven't been on apps for a number of years. I don't really ever remember this being a term or a thing several years ago. When someone messaged me asking about getting together and they mentioned they are side position. I asked what they meant by that. They said for them it meant they do everything but penetration. They said they sometimes do anal but not much. I got messaged by someone else to and their profile mentioned side and they said they don't do anal at all. I'm kinda curious when this started becoming a thing. I do know some websites/apps just let you not list anal or put that you aren't into that for a preference. Also kinda curious how people here feel about profiles that say side for position if they come across it. Even if the guy is cute or you like them would you still want to get together with them or hook up with them. Or is it more of an automatic pass. I think I'll still potentially get with someone who wanted to get together at a later date just to see how the chemistry goes. It's just weird seeing this now when I never saw it several years ago.

So this happened this morning. And yes it's the same man from the sodomized by a bear daddy post I wrote about. I have been trying to get back together with this man for almost a week now. Back and forth messages online has been painful and made me so regretful I didn't get his number last time. But we agreed yesterday to get together this morning and we did. I had some coffee and got prepped and headed to his place. I was so happy to see this large stocky bear man when I knocked and he opened the door. I still can't describe the build on this man how stocky and large he is not just bear large but stocky build in general. We immediately kissed and he grabbed me and embraced me. I instantly got hard and felt my cock in my pants rubbing against his hard cock in his shorts. After some making out we went upstairs. I stripped my clothes off and this daddy bear was all over me. We started making out again and he felt my ass as we were making out. God I love the way he likes to play with my ass while we make out. I lightly sucked his nipple and he groaned while I was doing this. He started playing with my hole and fingering it a little too. He then pushed me on the bed so I was on my back. He my hard cock in his mouth and slowly began sucking it. His mouth felt so good. He then pulled off and had me lay on the bed on all fours with my ass in the air. I knew I prepped pretty well and thought maybe my hole is loosened up more after being fucked twice yesterday. I thought maybe I could take him better then I did last time. I felt his thick cock head push in and it did feel really good. I started moaning groaning and crying out a little. I told him how good it felt and he started fucking me. He said he wanted me to suck his dick but he was so horny and wanted my ass that he couldn't wait. He started fucking me faster and said he liked that I'm enjoying it. I thought that I finally relaxed my ass enough to take him but I was wrong. I'm not sure if he was leading me into a false sense of security either. He pushed in further and I started crying out. He told me to open up my second hole. Second, fuck it felt like he was going into my third hole. I still don't know how he manages it but he started pushing in even deeper and I was crying out and moaning like a bitch in heat. Just like last time I was. I was a bitch being fucking by a hot daddy bear. He pulled out more and then kept shoving it in me deeper. He stopped doing fast strokes and did deeper thrusts. I don't know how he kept figuring out how to open my hole more. But despite the pain and discomfort I was still loving it. He pulled out for a minute and said he didn't want to cum to soon and he wanted me on my back. He put me on back and pushed his thick daddy bear dick in me again. Fuck he pushed in so fast he said that it popped right in. I literally did feel it pop in too. I could feel my hole opening up more but he still pushed in farther and still making me squeal and moan while he fucked me. He started fucking me faster and I felt my body start to tingle. He adjusted the position so I was on my side and he continued to fuck me. Each position he changed seemed like he found a way to get in deeper and deeper. After fucking me on my side he put me on my belly. He got on top of me completely and I was at his mercy as he pounded away at my hole pushing it in deeper and deeper. My body was still sort of feeling numb and my hands were starting to go numb. Fuck. I heard him grunt and his breathing pick up and knew he was going to cum. I heard him shout and felt him fill up my hole. He layed on top of me for a few moments while he was catching his breath. After he pulled out we lay next to each other like the previous time. We both talked for a bit and caught up with each other. He has has had some fun sexual encounters with others and I told him about mine. After we were in the middle of telling fun stories to each other he said he wanted me to cum. I was a little nervous about cumming on the spot and I tried but it was not fully happening. Then something changed. He mentioned something about my hole being loose. But it was the tone and how he said it. I asked if he liked fucking me deep and he said he loved it. He said he loved wrecking my hole with his big thick dick. I told him when he fucked me I was moaning yelping like a bitch getting fucked. He said I was and he loved it and said it was hot. He said he loved breeding me and fucking my ass. The more he talked dirty to me the harder I got. He kept talking dirty to me telling me how hot it was to fuck me and how good my hole felt. I was not only rock hard but I was starting to cum. I came on both of us around our stomach. Fuck it felt so good since I hadn't cum in a while too. I was glad that we both got off. I forgot that I did used to love it when guys talked dirty to me I guess that doesn't change. But also the way he did it. I showered afterwards and this time we exchanged numbers. I'll definitely see him again. He is an incredible man especially when it comes to fucking. And I love how he's honest about his encounters and seems to like when I tell him about mine. At least I got his load unlike last time but that still didn't really bother me. But damn it's been a few past two days. Will probably take a break from all this fun for a while and recharge. Until the next encounter.

Alternative title: Ass flooded with cum by big horny bear. Because that's how I felt after. But I'm getting ahead of myself. When I was younger I used to fool around with a guy who was semi around my age I think. God I can still remember what he kinda looked like he was like a kid we both were. We fooled around in public spaces that was actually our first meeting in a bathroom where we both fucked and sucked each other it was great. Then we met a few other times in other semi public spaces and once in a hotel I believe. He still remembered me all this years and reached out to me but he's now in an open relationship. We've been texting back and forth and decided to get together. Yesterday was finally the day. I had a hell of a time finding his place that he had to come out of his condo. I was shocked to see a large bear of a mean with beautiful fur on his chest and sexy salt and pepper beard come out to greet me. I said hello to him and we walked inside. As soon as we walked into his unit he immediately grabbed me and started making out with me. I had no idea he was that much into kissing I didn't remember if we did that much in the past. When we kissed my dick was getting hard in my jockstrap and I could feel his. I embraced him and grabbed his back holding him tighter. He grabbed my ass. It felt like he was trying to lift me with how much he was grabbing my ass. We broke the embrace for a moment and he welcomed me. I stripped and put my clothes to the side. He was waiting on the bed. Just looking at this sexy bear of a man damn I can't believe I remember him from 10 years ago and how much different he looked. He really has grown in the best way possible. I crawled onto the bed and we went back to making out. I explored his body and licked his ears and bite them I also licked and sucked on his nipples. I noticed his hairy pits as well and started licking them and rubbing my nose throughout his pits. Damn he had such a hot smell and I know he just got out of the shower. Finally I started to go lower and admired his treasure trail and licked his treasure trail. Pretty much every move or involvement I did with my tongue caused him to moan. And then finally I got to his cock and damn he was also mostly hard. I took his cock in my mouth and started sucking him. He was groaning and moaning while I was sucking him. I was enjoying feeling his cock harden in my mouth. I pulled off his cock for a moment and licked his balls and took his balls in my mouth. God I loved just exploring every scent and aspect of him. I really wasn't sure what to expect but was not expecting any of this. He grabbed me and pulled me back up and we made out some more. He rolled me on my side until I was on my back and he started to explore my body. He licked and sucked my nipples and bit them which I love. I was moaning out and he made his way down to my cock. Damn I remembered how good at sucking cock he was. I was getting hard and leaky to the more he sucked my cock. He played with my balls too and even bit them a little or put pressure on them. Fuck that felt so good. Reminded me of when my balls were being roughly hit at the bar the other night. I forgot I kinda enjoy that sensation. He stopped playing with my balls and leaned back over and kissed me some more. Damn I could taste my own fucking precum as we made out. Fucking hot. He started to make motions like he was going to fuck me on my back. But then he decided he wanted me on all fours. I got on all fours and felt his cock push in my hole. Fuck I forgot how great his cock felt. It's longer then most cocks I've had in a while and damn he felt so good sinking into me. He started fucking me and I kept hearing him moan and groan while fucking me. I backed up on his cock more and just let him fuck me. He did not last long and I felt him flood my ass. Holy damn. I could tell he was on sensory overload but he must have not jacked off in a while. He stayed in me for a little while when he continued to empty his load into me. Fuck I was not expecting any of this. He pulled off and we both layed besides each other going back to making out again. I think I've mentioned this before but damn it's so hot to make out with a hot bearded bear when my beard touches his. It's like a magnetic attraction with the hair. But damn I loved making out with him so much. I broke away from making out for a moment and asked if he thinks I've changed at all over the years. He said I look exactly the same except for the hair and beard. We both laughed at this and continued to make out. As much fun as we were having romping around in bed and exchanging lips and saliva. And hell yeah it was fun. It was time for me to fuck. I put him on his belly and lubed up my cock and started to fuck him. Ugh he was so fucking tight I was loving fucking him. Literally straight out of a porn or something or a comedy sketch there was a knock on the door. I froze and he said he forgot he had maintenance coming over that day. We had apparently been fucking, making out, fooling around for a few hours without realizing what time it was. Fuck. He said he did have to tend to them and reminded me of something he had to do later as well which is why we scheduled early afternoon. Fuck. I got off him and I was softening anyways from the shock and we both got dressed. We both kissed and said goodbye and said we'd see each other again. He needed a little more time to clean up before I got there and I ran into some traffic getting there and a little time spent finding his unit. So it was a little bit of a misfire on both our ends. I was not disappointed at all though. He was such a hot fucking man. And later when I got home I realized he fucking flooded my ass. So much cum came out of my ass. When I showered and thought it was all gone nope more cum came out. I used something to check and make sure I was clean and more cum. Damn what a fucking stud. Onto the next part. Reunion with the Silver Sir Top I mentioned previously that I got together with a top and then afterwards headed to the bookstore. I think I mentioned a long the lines of in a past relationship it was one fuck and done time to go to bed and sleep. And now being "free" I don't have to do it anymore. I probably do not get a lot of detail in that top so this time I will go over that more. After the fun fuck with my bear friend I fell asleep for a few hours after a light dinner. I woke up and saw that top online. I haven't seen him in a while but also haven't been on those sites in a while. I messaged him. I don't think he fully remembered me because I had to go through several steps and chats for him to agree to meet but it's been a while I guess. It was worth it though. I put on a different jockstrap and headed out. I knew where he was at least and when I went to his unit and greeted him we both kissed. While we were slowly kissing he gently guided my head to his nipple. He called me a good boy as I sucked and serviced his nipple. I forgot that his chest is extremely furry. Hot salt and pepper daddy fur damn. I could taste his chest hair as I was sucking his nipples. When we kissed he a had light trimmed beard as well. He told me to make myself comfortable. I stripped into my jockstrap and we both made our way to the bedroom. He later on the bed and I got on top of him and kissed him some more. He is more of a light kisser but it's still hot and passionate. He again directed my focus to his nipples afterwards. He had nice perky nipples and I loved sucking and chewing on them. Hearing his moans just got me more excited. He seemed like he had enough foreplay and guided my head towards his hard cock. Fuck I forgot how big and thick his cock was. But I remembered servicing that leather Sir in the hallway several nights ago I knew I could do it. I took his cock all the way down my throat. I enjoyed sucking and deep throating him. He was groaning and moaning and looking at me with approval and also calling me a good boy. He pulled me up closer to him and we kissed some more. He asked me if I wanted to get fucked and I told him I did. We maneuvered around and he put me on all fours. He threw the poppers my way and I took a hit. I could feel his thick cock pushing against my hole. Even with my hole still relatively cummy and lubed to a sense he was still big and thick. Fuck I felt it when he pushed in and I groaned. He started to push in more and told me to relax my hole. I tried to control my breathing and took deep breathes and relaxed more. He started fucking me more in rhythm. He asked a few times if it felt good and I told him it felt great. He told me that my ass felt nice and tight. And it was true even though I got fucked prior my hole still felt tight. I remembered that he preferred to do the work so instead of backing up on his dick frequently I backed up and tried to relax my hole so he could have fun pounding away at my ass and he did. He wanted to switch positions and he put me on my back. I looked at him as he pushed his thick dick in my hole and groaned and moaned. He started fucking me more. I reached up and started playing with his nipples and that really turned him on. I loved feeling his furry chest hair as I played with his nipples. I heard him shout that he was going to cum. I felt his cock harden and felt his load flood into me. It was another huge load and he was filling me up. He stayed in me for a little bit until he emptied his load completely. Then he pulled his cock out and he layed back on the bed. We both laid on the bed together and we made out a little bit more. I caressed his chest and nipples and he seemed to enjoy caressing my hair. We both talked a little and kinda caught up since we haven't played in a while. After that he had to get going and so did I. I went to the bathroom and pushed his load out. Probably still the load from before but damn it was so much cum that came out. I loved it. I got dressed and kissed him goodbye and said that we'll get together again soon. He was a little bit hesitant to fuck me at first because he knew I didn't get fucked much. I think he might prefer looser holes over tighter holes but he still enjoyed it. He said we might work on loosening my hole some next time as well. I know I am out of practice when it comes to being fucked probably but take any practice I can get and appreciate it. I had a little bit of congestion today too so I wasn't in top or peak performance for either session but I enjoyed both. I actually almost went to the baths after me and my friend got interrupted by maintenance. I decided that it was better to go home eat and sleep and it was the right call I was very well rested to service the Silver Sir Top I was with later in the evening. These were both fun and great experiences and I enjoyed having a cummy hole for the good half of the end of the day. Glad I have a place to share these.

Pretty much only every been in relationships with older men starting when I was in my 18/19. The idea of a top being more mature and wiser is mostly true. Not always. A Daddy/boy, Dom/sub, Sir/boy can be a great dynamic. And when you are younger you do tend to look up to the daddy top more for wisdom and knowledge. I've had more of a bdsm servitude relationships where I was a boy and he was a Sir and one where I was a boy for a Daddy and recently more of a traditional monogamous relationship that ended recently. I can't say why I have always been attracted to older. Yes the older features have always been hot to me sometimes I wonder if it's the experience or wisdom. It can be hot and I guess maybe others percieve it as looking hot seeing a Daddy/boy couple no idea. There can definitely be some challenges sometimes a huge age gap like that interests, hobbies and mindsets might be a different. A young man is still growing, learning, developing an exploring. An older man has experience, patience, understanding but is sometimes set in their ways and ideals. It's a weird feeling I'm no longer young i don't think. I'm in my early 30s. Ironically when I was 18-20 most older guys and daddies thought I was too young. It was a little easier in early 20s. I see a mix of online and profiles of some daddies only wanting younger guys and some only wanting older guys. I am literally in the divide. At this point I don't think I am actively trying to date or form a relationship with an older guy again. But the thing about that is really is I've gotten older so depending on the age the gap in age isn't as big as it was 10 years ago. Some things I've pondered over the last few weeks is what if I was just friends/fuck buddies with a previous relationship would things have gone better? Perhaps. In general I think guys around my age group of might be able to relate to a little easier. I'll still have sex and fun with whatever guy i want. I'm not trying to be close minded either but just past experiences have made me cautious. But to the original question yeah Daddy/boy relationships are hot so is being called boy and calling the man Sir or daddy. That will never probably not be hot to me no matter how old i get. I already know there guys in their 50s who consider themselves a boy and I think that's probably how it will go for me years later too.

God it was so many years ago. I was a condom Nazi from when I first came out pro condoms everything. I got in a relationship with a Sir in my early 20s, Due to the nature of the relationship and my age and drive he was fine with me playing outside relationship but had to be with condoms. Although technically I think a few trips to sex clubs one or two visits I swear I had cum in my ass when the top had a condom or said they used a condom. I probably got stealthed at least once but I don't count that. I remember it mostly clearly I think it was just me and Sir in the home in the afternoon. I think a few months into the relationship. Maybe we were laying in bed maybe I finished my duties. But he told me wanted to fuck me. He sort of got me trained at that point to suck his cock and swallow his load since early on I was not good at swallowing. And he trained me to get fucked by him as well since early on I was not the best at getting fucked. Everyone has to start somewhere. I was excited because he did not fuck me much. I'm damn..getting hard just thinking about this and typing this. It was truly a hallmark moment. I think in bed when I was excited about him fucking me I was waiting for him to grab a condom from the drawer with the lube but he didn't grab it. I asked what he was doing and he said he was going to make me his boy permanently. He said I've been such a good boy with my training and he loves me and he was going to bareback me and fuck me raw. He said I'll never forget this moment and he was right. I don't remember if I hesitated I think I did feel emotional but I told him since it's him and we're in a relationship and he's my Sir I trust and love him. I remember him mounting his raw cock in my hole. I cannot remember the sensation but I remember my reaction. The man that I loved and admired taking me completely as his own raw with no rubber or barriers. I think I begged him to fuck me. I believe he fucked me on all fours and on my belly. I think he also fucked me on my back because he wanted to look at me as I was getting fucked raw bareback for the first time. I don't remember if I asked for his load or if he asked if I wanted it. If he asked me I probably said that I did. I do vaguely remember him fucking me harder and faster and telling me that I am his boy, his bitch, his lover, his submissive, and that I will always be his. And then he shot his load deep in me. I don't remember the man ever being that passionate but I think we did kiss during him breeding me and after. And then I believe after we just layed together. We might have slept together..I mean we did but literally. That man when we first met and over the years barely showed me passion and affection sexually. But when he did he left his mark. I remember once being so horny sleeping with him in bed that I rubbed my ass against his cock and got him hard. I remember spitting on my hand and hole and when his dick was hard in his sleep I backed up against him. I remember rocking my ass back and forth on his cock until he bred me in his sleep. I remember him waking up confused and me pretending to be asleep. I think he said what the fuck or something and went to the bathroom and then turned over and went back to sleep. I remember when his leather buddies were over once he told them about that. He said it something like "That damn horny boy backed up on my cock while I was sleeping and rode it bare and raw and I bred him in my sleep. I can't believe he did that." I can't remember now if he was being coy but most of the men thought it was hot. I think there was only one who said it was disrespectful. But I remember blushing at the time and also not being in the room but close by because I had a crush on one of them. And he was one of the ones who said it was hot and he would be happy if a boy did that for him. But I learned later on after semi having a play session with him years later that he was kind of worse in using a boy and not giving sexual gratification then my actual Sir was. That was a few months after he bred me and marked me as his for the time. And by marked I don't mean poz because he was neg but marked me as his boy/sub since that was our relationship dynamic. I learned slightly later over the years why he showed me less affection and some of it was manipulation and there was another factor as well. But even when we lived together by ourselves for a year outside of that place as *roomates* he still did not without the other factor being there. He was a very complicated man with his thoughts, emotions and feelings. But I do believe he did love me and cared for me in his own way. He left such an impression on me at a young age I haven't thought about him in a long time. He also disappeared off the face of the earth after he moved out where we were living but that was in his nature and something he's done before to others as well. But he trained me well early on and helped me harness and nurture my submissive nature. I'll always be grateful to him for that and a few other things. Oof I didn't mean for this to be an emotional and detailed post. Whoops.

The slut shaming is the big thing. Sometimes I wonder if it's people actually judging you or projecting their own insecurities on you. But at bars or clubs or bath houses people talk. They can even fuck you and breed you or not and tell their buddy "Man that guy is such a cum dump they are such a whore". Whether they mean this in a compliment or insult is up to how they say it or the person they are saying it too. Or it could even potentially be someone wanting to take you down a notch. I don't really know how it works. But I've always had a working theory that a popular run of guys runs a social group of who's accepted as an acceptable slut and who's not. Or cum dump. And if you aren't in then you can't sit with us. Mean girls reference i think. But yes it can work against you reputation wise if someone you like might judge you afterwards or if they only want to fuck you in a certain scenario because of how they view you. But if you are a cum dump do you care how they actually percive you. In theory a cum dump should be able to get as many dicks or loads as they want so who judges or accepts them shouldn't matter as long as they are getting cock. I kinda wonder in general how guys in hook up apps or websites are affected by using their face picture like if someone near them recognizes them or someone at work or they know personally. But adding being a cum slut to that is an extra layer. I know most people probably don't think about all this but I'm glad you recognize it. There's an old saying I'll get wrong about not pissing in a kettle where you are. But essentially meaning say if you live in a big city and you are a cum dump not only bar wise and guys will you potentially gain a reputation but even outside gay bars and gay life people might know. Some will go fuck around at a city or area outside of their own but not everyone has that option. I just feel in general cum dumps have more to lose or worry about reputation wise compared to a guy that's a slut or whore with some guys not all. But I don't know if true cum dumps actually care or think about any of this. I wonder if the true ideal relationship for a cum dump would be to have an owner or handler that encourages and fulfills their need and has other guys use them to fulfill both involved needs. Or just an open relationship in general.

I love that there is positivity and acceptance in the responses even though it can be viewed as negative. I am curious what the top version of a cum dump is. A stud?

This is such a great question and people have great responses. It's something I'm either trying to figure out myself. I did get pretty good advice a little while ago basically someone telling me it's okay to be a whore, slut, or cumdump if you want. Just be sex positive about what you want to be and not let others judge you. I have never really heard the term sex positive before but I love it. I did used to think about getting fucked everyday and I did the prep. Would follow a routine to clean myself out every morning and then be online constantly looking for the next hunt or load or go to bars or clubs and get load counts. Hell I had a system and a good amount of fuck buds and I could sort of plan to start the night getting fucked by a top who liked to fuck quick and was one and done and then go to another top that liked loads in me and liked to add one or two. This is before going to either hook up with someone or several guys or going to a bar or bath house like place and take multiple guys/loads. And yes bending over in a bar or public place was so easy for me to get many guys to fuck and breed me that I lost count of loads sometimes. So strange I rarely caught anything lol prep was just coming out back then and not really available. As fun as it was the issue with being a cumdump for me was letting it take control over everything. Waking up and just focusing on trying to find someone to hook up with or moving onto so many different guys and not really appreciating the ones I had. The hunt has always been fun or interesting whether online or in person. But it can be tiring on all fronts. The reputation thing is also spot on. The reputation of being a cum dump is something you need to own I think. It's probably harder if you don't have a lot of friends or support. Then you have to deal with however guys percive you. But what someone mentioned about a cumdump being someone you don't take home and cuddle just fuck somewhere and leave can definitely be true. But maybe things have kinda changed on views of cum dumps now. Maybe because prep exists, it's really common especially when you see it in public bars or bath houses. Also the guys that are being the biggest cum dumps are usually really attractive so that in itself might keep away some of the stigma. Because in a sense being a whore or slut has been kinda trendy in the past especially those who can pull it off. Eh. I already know why I kinda can't be one right now. Several reasons. But me saying that sort of feels like I'm repressing it which I think I am. I'm not doing it to make myself look better or feel better or superior by not being one especially in public. At the same time this is always something I wondered about it in the back of my mind in the past and even currently. But what if someone potentially that might be a fun hook up, friendship or more saw you out being a cum dump and their opinion of them lowered. Well while I just thought of this using some common rationale what are they doing at a place where guys hook up and whore around whether public or not. And if they do judge you for that then they probably are not someone you really want to get with because their view on sex like that might be negative. I've always been iffy about dark rooms though. They can be fun but It's always amazed me how some guys might not want anything to do with you in a bar or public place or just in the light. But in a dark room even if they see you going in they might follow and play with you. And after might go back on not wanting anything to do with you. I know that's not every guy and every situation but I've noticed it in the past. Or more recently. I've also had the experience at book stores where in a room a guy is really intimate or passionate regardless of what act involved in they state some kind of limit like "Oh I don't fuck guys in places like this or no I don't do that with guys here". But then again they are also at the place. I am probably overthinking all this way too much. I had clear and concise thoughts in my head but thinking of everything is becoming foggy. It could be with my situation where I am kinda "free" that maybe I'm letting it lots of repressed feeling and actions i couldn't do over these past years. Ironically someone I spoke to recently I told him a little of my experiences lately and he told me I'm a cum dump in a good way though. I told him this is light compared to how I used to be and his response was "light". I just might not be able to escape it. I wonder if being subservient natured sexually kinda fates or leads you into it. I can easily tell from past, present and future that if I run into a top that wants to whore me out I will not turn them down. I mean I've already kinda shown that. That makes me kind of wonder if you take any and all loads if a top orders you and you do it be subservient if that also makes you a cum dump. This was probably too much on this but I've thought about all of this way too much. Next my thoughts on couples with open relationships but I think I'll wait until I play with one again I need a refresher.