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Well sometimes the meatloaf is particularly delicious and so a few repeats are in order. But indeed, variety for me is important too.

I've met one for sure and one I seem to recall, but not taking bets on that. The one I recall for sure is still here and we've chatted in the year plus since my return to BZ. (my diversion for Covid was to BateWorld as it was a time to be alone - good and productive place; enhances what used to be "jacking off" and I am grateful for that. Met even more from there. ) If my friend happens across this I'm sure he'll recall it as we've chatted here recently. But I don't disclose unless I am 100% certain disclosure would not cause strife. If he is reading this however, he is invited to jump in and out us as having met. Sadly not sexual although I have always wished we had. There are many I actively interact with and at a point in time we privately message and ascertain whether if we're traveling to each others area sex is ON the Table; although our pillow talk might continue certain "conversations". The other I am pretty sure was a sexual hookup, the I'm in your city/state next week, let's connect one night. And sadly that was in my former forgotten profile and we haven't stumbled across each other. Interesting that I recall more vividly the intellectual hookup. There were circumstances going on with him at the time where he took sex off the table; which is OK. At the time I agreed. Here as 2022 is coming to an end; as far as I'm concerned with any of the guys here, I am all in to have sex. Accepting if we meet and you don't wish to play.

I have sexual friends who are in exactly this position. And in my generation it was not uncommon for spouses to stay together for a variety of reasons. Save for the death of one there was nothing unhappy in their relationship. They chose to experience each others lives to the end. The exact foundation of my present relationship. What we do sexually has evolved and that is no one else's business. Our choices do not cause each other suffering; something we are aware of with each other because we communicate candidly. There is a big world out there of couples (and even couples +) who navigate and negotiate meaningful, fulfilling relationships with rules between them you might not accept. I don't understand this returning penchant to define what the rules are in others private lives? Especially in our relationships those rules belong only within that relationship.

Ah lovely recollections of my last relationship. Sweet guy but traveled a lot globally and had a family in every city.... Every time he came home from a week or three long trip he broke up with me. Then a few days later he "UN-brokeup". It became the defining characteristic of that relationship. Ended when I decided to not accept the UN-breakup. Once it was clear monogamy was one sided that ended long before we broke up.

@downtownswallow it really isn't up to you to decide that. Those who are IN the relationship define it; and they are the only ones who should decide whether cheating invalidates their agreement so badly that they dissolve the relationship. But good that you've a handle on what your requirements are for your relationship(s).

I suspect some of this is sort of learning to reengage with humanity. That lock down sort of fucked with my head a bit. I got too used to isolating. Something I never used to like. Plus social strife just seems so fucking intense some days.

I'm with you evilqueerpig. Shame we aren't in the same state.

Yes I have off periods from time to time. Not unusual and thankfully not long lasting.

Honest I am glad the mods have left this in place. That small group of malcontents seem to be bullies. Similar to a lot of recent political behavior, their way of "absolving" themselves seems to be to self describe in the form of blaming others. This is a great thread to discover who some of them are... As a thread though, I'm done with this particular one. So glad that most of us are understanding of our mods here; and as Hillary said, there are some "deplorables". 🙂 Peace my brothers!

( including @BoyStrangler) Do you equate a downvote as bullying??? That seems to mean then that anyone who disagrees with you is bullying you? And you find them "sad". Or anyone who disagrees is "getting off".... To the extent that is so; man I hope that eases up for you. In a healthy forum we should be able to disagree with each other. If you're getting downvotes; then asking about that is the only way you'll learn why someone disagrees with you. Perhaps you'll learn that your assertion was mistaken. Perhaps you'll be able to add supporting fact on your position. Maybe you were getting downvotes as a reflection of your own bullying? Absent clarifying text though; a downvote is simply an "I disagree". That's how we inform each other and learn other points of view. It is fundamental to how we learn. If we stop supporting healthy dialogue what do you imagine our future to be? I ask because history doesn't frame humans in a loving, caring, friendly light aggregating first human to now . When we stop exchanging ideas and differing points of view we risk isolating ourselves into closed pods of thought. Disagreement joined with understanding helps all of us evolve. My direct interactions with @viking8x6 was definitely not bullying. He properly called me on posting a particular POV that belonged in the back room. He was absolutely correct. It was my eff up and I know better. I didn't have to, but I apologized; as one might expect when we are behaving respectfully towards each other. He was very friendly in replying to that. I would have to look to see if he has downvoted any of my posts. But even if he had; I would have been glad he expressed his opinion. He is a member here; and was a member before becoming a mod. Under a different handle and at a different place in life I was a moderator here on BZ. I am glad to not be doing that; but I am grateful for these guys as they are the fellows charged with helping keep us in line. Which in turns helps @rawTOP keep this site alive. There is more than one moderator here; but all of them see what each other does; in effect moderating each other. If any of them were actually exhibiting bullying behavior they would have checked each other. @rawTOP is an active participant here, not just the site owner. I love it when he joins in the "conversation" that is BZ. We're all on the same team here. That doesn't mean we have to always agree. Just be respectful, ask and learn, or make your point and be happy you said it. Nothing "sad" about that. On the plus side, if this was bullying you; then this is great news! Because in that case you are one of the lucky ones who has never actually been bullied; with fists and broken off beer bottles... With actual palpable threats of physical harm. I don't condone any of that BTW, but I have personally experienced it just for being gay in the "wrong place". Disagreements are not bullying.

I have never found the rule or intention hard to follow here on BZ. I really don't think there is anything that needs fixing. I like for example that there is an acknowledgement that comes with an infraction. It assures the member (like me today) who made a mistake understands it. I have a difficult time believing that any mod here is bullying anyone. It is an unfortunate habit many have followed to treat any text as a "blah blah blah" bunch of junk. Context helps as well. We the consumers of BreedingZone are not under a financial contract; post or certain way or we're exposed to financial ruin. So to the degree we choose to ignore instructions, I really don't see how we're harmed or penalized in any significant way. Maybe I am just weird. I actually read my insurance policies cover to cover. It is worth understanding what I am paying for. It saddens me how many I know who didn't read and then some event happens and they're shocked that they were not covered. For example, most policies have limits above stated limits to account for additional costs to rebuild. Post covid rebuilding costs have sky rocketed. But I am one of the few clients of my insurance agent who contacted them once the actual costs of a rebuild rose above my policy limits. To bring this back to this topic, not reading the rules and then getting angry because one didn't isn't an excuse. rawTOP nor any of the mods nor the modlike members like BootmanLA should feel compelled to change anything. It's perfectly fine the way it is. But then, that's just my opinion...

I have never once been bullied by a moderator here. I did receive an infraction for my own goof up when I failed to take the time to make sure the topic I was replying to was in the back room. I felt pretty stupid at that. Glad I've gone a long time without an infraction and yet glad for the reminder. I was getting a bit careless.

I did not catch that, but similar movements are afoot around the globe

and perhaps a tacit non sarcastic "thank you" to those of us here in Wisconsin who are poll workers to ensure fair and free elections, regardless of what the big R party is declaring

@Sharp-edge man I am saddened that behavior has returned. Not surprising as it appears this is part of "becoming great again" and certainly already telegraphed by SCOTUS. @BootmanLA as usual, some great advice. It's been decades since I've been in that position but absolutely what needs to be done IF there is to be a remedy.

Without a doubt!

I find a couple of anti diarrheal pills just before I douche really makes a big difference for me in the hours following.

Thanks @BootmanLA you consistently provide such thoughtful and well laid out answers.

Bear I am close to you, over in Saukville

Indeed @BootmanLA. However, if employers are going to provide health insurance then the objective should be healthy employees. The thought of imposing their kingly morals on all of their staff has nothing to do with the agreement to employ. Employers are receiving plenty of public good to run their business; shared public good such as water, sewer, utilities... We as a society pretty much leave them alone to run their business as they see fit. (pretty much within constraints of local laws). This regardless of the individual views individuals in the management hold. This should apply equally to employees. If the employers doesn't wish to offer healthcare, so be it. That may reduce their pool of possible employees but that is their choice. At end, I agree, taking healthcare out of all employment contracts might be better. And yet, that places it more in the hands of politicians whose goals are often more for their personal good than public good. Socially, while likely not possible, I would love to see society evolve towards a world where we stop imposing our personal decisions for ourselves on others.

One may not see lesions though. They might be in hidden places; inside anus for example Or just in a place not easily seen until it is too late.

Thanks rawTOP although, I have to confess, it is lovely to be gone down on... Seriously, thanks for the notice.

No issue with anyone believing they are right... But I do have an issue with them making their belief's mandatory for me and others to follow (eg: illegal). Believing we are right is after all a belief in and of itself.

"I'm hearing...." sounds so much like another Trumpism "people are saying....". Would you name your sources please? No one at CDC has claimed vaccines protect perfectly. They, the CDC, do tell us vaccines vastly improve outcomes and lower transmission. They've been consistent on that. Further, we have evidence of high profile people contracting covid after vaccinations who exhibit only mild illness.

Oh indeed. They fled being forced to believe something they didn't want to, and yet had their own brand of rottenness.