hntnhole

1 hour ago, extremsub337 said:

He probably would have killed both me and my uncle

Sounds like my dad .....

Fortunately, neither of our dads figured it all out, and we're still here, doing what we most need to do. 😉

Welcome, RogerPoz448

You'll find that Breeding Zone is a place where almost every gay guy can post ideas, and respond to other guy's posts, ideas.  Lots of us have been on BZ for quite a while, and enjoy the discussions of various topics, reading what other guys think, adding our viewpoints, and all in a well-run, well-moderated environment.  The only real "rule" is, be tolerant to other guys viewpoints, and expect the same in return.  

When you first join, you will find that you're limited in the number of "reactions" to other guys posts.  This is to encourage you to post your own thoughts/reactions to whatever that particular subject matter is, thus encouraging us to write our thoughts on any particular subject, rather than just click on one of the "reactions" without any contributions of your own. 

I'm guessing that you'll find it difficult to get into any trouble, merely from reading your initial post.  

The more you share your thoughts, react to other guys thoughts, the sooner more and more privileges you'll "earn".  Thanks for joining, and we look forward to hearing more from you about whatever particular aspects of raw breeding you care to share.  

My first tubs experience was at Mans Country on N. Clark St, S. Andersonville, Chicago.  

And, it was the first of many ..... 

2 hours ago, viking8x6 said:

kids these days!

Which is I - for one - keep my distance from them.  I'll take experienced bottoms every time.  

12 hours ago, NordicBtm said:

You definitely did nothing wrong.

I agree.  Definitely.

I can't discern anything "wrong" from what you've shared either.  Every guy begins his sexual journey at some point, and I'll bet you the kid you reference might have some notions to sort through.  Maybe the kid was raised to have beliefs that run counter to the kind of sex we rawguys need, and it just flipped him out. 

It can be confounding, trying to figure out the reasons for seeking out that kind of a place, and then reacting in such a strange way when an opportunity presents itself.  I'd just put it down to some poor kid, raised in a particularly cruel way, trying to come to terms with who and what he is.  If you see him again, buy him a soda and just let him talk it out (with a little encouragement from you, if it seems appropriate).  

37 minutes ago, verbalBTTM said:

Something about a fast muscle car that has a roar to it tickles something primal.

Yeah ... and those tight Levi's those two wore had nothing to do with it ...<polite cough>

1 hour ago, PozTalkAuthor said:

He says

... anything that stumbles into his head at the moment, which is why nothing he says can be taken at face value.  Apparently, his mental "filter" - which each human being possesses - no longer works, so that his utterances become nothing but noise to lucid folks.  

Add into the mix, a sorely-confused mindset that is focused only on satisfying his wish-of-the-moment, and we wind up with gangs of unruly armed mobs running amok in Minneapolis/St. Paul, stunningly confused commentary about "taking" Greenland, which has been associated with Denmark since the days of the Vikings.  He mouths one platitude, and acts diametrically opposite to that platitude moments - literally moments - later.  The man is clearly, obviously unwell, his "abilities" are fading fast, and sadly, he's trying to simply destroy the nation.  

From the Oxford:

"A hypocrite is someone who pretends to have virtues, beliefs, or moral standards they don't actually possess, or whose actions contradict their stated principles, often to appear good while acting otherwise, essentially being a "play actor" or two-faced person. They profess certain ideals (like caring for the environment) but don't follow them in their own lives (like driving a gas guzzler). 

Key characteristics

Pretends virtue: Claims to be moral, pious, or virtuous but isn't."

1 hour ago, PozTalkAuthor said:

Well, the word is TOKENISM.

I don't particularly endorse that contrivance either. 

However, if the result is a beginning to address past wrongs, create a deeper understanding of problems, and potential remedies, starting with "tokenism" is better than not starting at all.  To my way of thinking, it's when "tokenism" becomes both the beginning and the end of the effort that it becomes useless.  

Filling an open position with someone who fits only the "token" bill accomplishes nothing, if they happen to be incompetent to advance the issue at hand.  Filling an open position with someone who fits the bill of an underrepresented community, and who also can accomplish the job is the whole point of giving some underrepresented person an equal chance.

Once I hired a salesperson on the basis of underrepresentation, because that person was equally able relative to other applicants for that position.  She was a lesbian, also of Filipino descent, so I managed to fulfil two of the goals in one hire.  Had she not worked out, she would have been gone, but she worked out well.  To me, that's a win/win, all the way around.  

Point:  when each of us does what we can to redress wrongs, we should do that.  It only helps move cultural redress forward, even if in only some small way.  

13 hours ago, BBDreamer said:

I want you in me all day long

Do I get time to have something to eat .... besides your sweet, hot sperm-filled cumhole, I mean ..... I can eat (regular food) fairly quickly, but I like to take my time with eating the more  emotionally-substantive "food", particularly when there's a "buffet" being served ... 💦

Just a couple of the usual ones .... call the doc, go over there, and shortly it's over and done with.  

On 1/8/2026 at 5:00 PM, jmw003 said:

It did just slip in on its own.

Ohferheavessake ..... if I had a nickel for every time that one worked ...... do guys still fall for that old saw ?

On 1/9/2026 at 5:42 AM, verbalBTTM said:

Almost up to a Ferrari

That's one I never owned ... Big, fast Detroit MUSCLE always worked for me; particularly 440 MoPars.  

I have nothing but respect for the more carefully-engineered cars like Ferrari though.  

21 hours ago, ckskr1963 said:

Sundays were odd days as no matter how much sex happened the night before

Apparently, the old saying "the family that fucks together stays together" or something like that, is TRUE. 😃

Actually, back when I was using the cruise apps, I don't recall actually paying for them.  Maybe I did - maybe I didn't - just don't recall.  I do remember some of the guys I fucked using those apps though.  Fun times !!!

Interestingly, this post made me recall that at some point (years ago), I bought a pair of "nipple extenders" - picture a small rubber tube with one end closed off.  They can in graduated sizes, and I had fairly small nips .... at the time.  So, I bought a pair - they must be around here somewhere, but I haven't seen them in years - and gradually my nipples got longer and thicker, so they were clearly visible through a lightweight t-shirt.  Be careful with how long you wear them at any give time though - a couple of times, a bit of blood seeped out of the nipple-tips.  Regular use beats irregular-but-lengthy every time.  

Point:  when you don't have something you wish you did, figure out a way to fukkin get that attribute nature forgot.  

This topic could have been entitled 'Do you prefer "youthful exuberance" or "learned skill".  There are pleasures to be derived from both, of course, but the one obviates the other.   

That said, I would give the edge to the "learned skill" choice - for both the T and the b.   

19 hours ago, WorkJack said:

I heard a possible explanation of why popular apps are trash now:

Thanks, WorkJack, for that hypothesis.  It makes sense to me too.  Nothing productive comes from guys sitting in their homes, typing into some contrivance that keeps us from being with others like ourselves.  Sounds like that which at one time brought us together, is now doing the opposite.  

1 hour ago, tallslenderguy said:

which i think we as gay guys should know better?

Of course we not only should know better, we should understand that there are other folks (possessing equal agency as we do) with points of view that make no sense to us, just as our p.o.v makes no sense to them.  And there's everything right and nothing wrong with discussing opposing points of view (assuming a certain level of decent manners is observed).  No one enjoys being dissed, thus it follows that no one should do that to others, either in person, or from behind some electronic screen.  

Throwing typo-turds at each other advances no one's p.o.v.  I completely agree that we gay guys, fucking on the fringe of "acceptable" behavior, should know better.  Bad manners impress no one.  Decency of discourse invites said decency in return.  We, of all people, should understand that.  

On 1/12/2026 at 12:55 AM, BBDreamer said:

I love a verbal Top

and we love you even more 😉

22 hours ago, bareback-flipflop said:

(let me steal it @hntnhole, because I never heard it and really like it)

Absolutely !!!   You can "steal" whatever you want from me 😇

Interestingly, although this post is almost 9 years old now, the answers seem to be remarkably similar.  

Most of us have figured out that the fuckapps are fading in viability, and the guys that don't live in/near a major metro area are suffering for it.  I read posts / replies about how lucky a guy feels that an assignation actually did work out, and I feel sorry for guys that have nothing but the fuckapps to depend on for sex.  

Frankly, BZ is the closest thing to a *real* cruise-app than the old ones are these days.  

On 1/13/2026 at 11:59 PM, NWUSHorny said:

Does 321 Slammer have lockers or a clothes check? Asking since they do in LA and at 541 in PS. I personally prefer being buck naked at a fuck venue.

Yes, Slammer Ft. L. does, however they run out of lockers fairly early in the evening.  They also have small lockboxes (wallets, keys, etc).  Some guys just strip, fold /stack their clothes in some corner, and hope for the best.  I wouldn't do that, but ... 

I've never been to the Slammer out west, so I can't comment on any difference between the two.  

3 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

 But she really was never a puppet, she was complicit and then decided (for whatever reasons) to not be complicit anymore.   

I think that's exactly correct.  This version of "bottle-blondie" that has surfaced recently isn't worth one shred of trust, since whichever way the wind is blowing, she's being blown right along with it.  

7 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

vote against them.

Hopefully, we'll still have *real* elections in another 10 months ...... 

If we have real elections in November, what will we do with these wannabe "tough guys" - the "icicles"?   Are there any really loooong deeeeep ditches waiting to be dug somewhere?  

Two questions: 

Was that blue '49 Willys still parked in that diner's parking lot on the corner ??? 

One more:  Living in Chicago, were you from R originally? 

I can't think of any other reason for a Chicagoan to visit The Office 🤔