hntnhole

Welllllll ........  I don't think I've ever been all that picky ... the only thing that comes to mind is, I don't want to rut in last night's supper ..... that'll kill the deal right away for me.  

23 hours ago, bikerarmpits said:

What if it's Neg Bottom -- Poz Top? What if the bottom stealths the top somehow (yes, there are ways) to get bred by the top, and doesn't let the neg bottom know his status?

As mentioned:  I don't think it's ever a decent thing to lie.  

Whether it's a this or that, that or this, or a mix of both ... lying is simply not ok.  Whatever the contrivance; it's just not ok to lie about stuff. 

Guys and parry, guys can change the subject, guys can do any number of things to avoid telling the truth.  Any astute hearer of the previous will be able to understand quickly that the guy is simply not going to be honest, and either move on or accept the situation. 

Some may say that the guy in question should not be expected to answer certain questions, and that's a different discussion.  The question in this topic though, is clear and unmistakable.  And, my answer is no.  If/when asked, any decent guy should tell the truth.  

On 1/20/2026 at 3:43 PM, Justaholeff said:

I've heard that place was wild!!!!

Yeah, it was ..... any sexual act you can imagine taking place on any/all three floors at any given time. There were other baths in Chicago of course, and I went to them occasionally.  But "home" was always at Chuck Renslow's fuckjoints.  

12 hours ago, IntoBBvisitor said:

I think cum addiction is real for sluts.

It isn't. 

What is addictive (or at the very least, habit-forming) however, is the wanton sexual behavior that earns a bottom a Top's load.  Better yet, a number of Tops.  More, that addiction, properly identified, is extremely addictive, thank Whatever.  

"Is stealthing morally okay?"

^ the title of this thread (it's almost a whole blanket of threads by now) could easily be expanded to a wider question: 

"Is dishonesty morally okay?"  

While there may be situations where lying can save an innocent life - in wartime, for instance - the basic question would be as directly above.  I doubt any person likes to be lied to, and thus that person (i,e. every person) that doesn't care for being lied to should, obviously, refrain from lying to others.  There are ways to parry unwelcome, obsequious probing questions, some more blunt than others.  In either case, dishonesty is not the proper way to parry the offense.  

A reply with something like "talk some other time" (the more polite version) or "it's really none of your business" (a more blunt response) is always better than returning a lie with another lie.  At least the respondent doesn't stoop to the liar's level.  

21 hours ago, PozToxVersPig said:

I feel comfortable with my anchor being honestly

and that is completely honorable, P.T.V.P.  

It's not asking too much to be completely honest with our (potential) fuckmates; whether in-the-flesh or here on BZ (to a lesser extent, obviously).  There's everything right about being honest, and nothing wrong with it; particularly in sexual contexts.   If some potential trick doesn't care for some facet of me, that's fine.  There are plenty of other holes in the fuckjoint, so each guy can find what he most needs. 

I too am completely comfortable with being honest about sexual proclivities at the fuckjoints.  

It never occurred to me to attempt to count .... there would be a number of zero's involved though if I did.  

Probably two attributes, unrelated to each other:

1.  A really debauched, filthy mouth, and

2).  A really winsome smile.  

I haven't really noticed this - at least in my favorite fuckjoint.  

In the darkroom, no one can see anyone; it's just rut in a hole, switch to another one, etc.  And, in the rest of the joint, I can't say I've noticed any negative behavior relative to race, or any other divisive qualities. 

There are some guys that eat way too much, but that's a choice, not a racial or misogynistic thing.  

My preference is having the bottom bent over, taking loads, one after another after another, and I just squat down, feast on his hole, stand up and start rutting.  Speaking isn't necessary, but if he does some drrrty talk, I'll respond in kind.  

On 1/19/2026 at 1:14 PM, PozTalkAuthor said:

When you hire someone because of their underrepresented condition rather for a real professional value.

I think that this issue is causing some misunderstanding: 

Since I was in business for years, I feel able to comment cogently on the issue.  I had to hire people, and one of the facets I considered was their "cultural identity", if that makes sense.  But it was only one, and not the most important one.  Competence, ability to do the job was paramount.  However, when there were - oh - say 3 relatively equally-qualified candidates, It was my "right" (and, in my mind, my duty), to consider any cultural issues as well, stressing competency of course, but also having the luxury of more than 1 equally qualified people, I could actually 1) act on my beliefs, and 2) engage an employee on an "equal" basis with every other employee.   

In that instance, I could allow myself to "empower" at least one minority of some sort (racial, cultural, whatever), simply because that is something I believed in, and it was my company,  so I could do it.  Only once (out of a number of hires) did an "inclusive" choice turn out to be a poor choice who had to be let go.  

Now.  Since I did have the ability to run the company the way I felt was right and proper, I was able to put my cultural conscience into the mix of issues, and hire someone from an underrepresented cultural group, and I'd alter nothing today, if I still had that company.  

Point:  not everyone has the ability to make decisions that impact underrepresented groups, but everyone can do whatever they're able to make the "playing field" more equal.  Whether it's something as small as a kind word, or a smile, or as impactful as hiring someone that needed a job - it all counts equally as doing what we're able to do to make our world a tiny bit more just, more inclusive, more equal, and a tiny bit better. 

1 hour ago, extremsub337 said:

He probably would have killed both me and my uncle

Sounds like my dad .....

Fortunately, neither of our dads figured it all out, and we're still here, doing what we most need to do. 😉

Welcome, RogerPoz448

You'll find that Breeding Zone is a place where almost every gay guy can post ideas, and respond to other guy's posts, ideas.  Lots of us have been on BZ for quite a while, and enjoy the discussions of various topics, reading what other guys think, adding our viewpoints, and all in a well-run, well-moderated environment.  The only real "rule" is, be tolerant to other guys viewpoints, and expect the same in return.  

When you first join, you will find that you're limited in the number of "reactions" to other guys posts.  This is to encourage you to post your own thoughts/reactions to whatever that particular subject matter is, thus encouraging us to write our thoughts on any particular subject, rather than just click on one of the "reactions" without any contributions of your own. 

I'm guessing that you'll find it difficult to get into any trouble, merely from reading your initial post.  

The more you share your thoughts, react to other guys thoughts, the sooner more and more privileges you'll "earn".  Thanks for joining, and we look forward to hearing more from you about whatever particular aspects of raw breeding you care to share.  

My first tubs experience was at Mans Country on N. Clark St, S. Andersonville, Chicago.  

And, it was the first of many ..... 

2 hours ago, viking8x6 said:

kids these days!

Which is I - for one - keep my distance from them.  I'll take experienced bottoms every time.  

12 hours ago, NordicBtm said:

You definitely did nothing wrong.

I agree.  Definitely.

I can't discern anything "wrong" from what you've shared either.  Every guy begins his sexual journey at some point, and I'll bet you the kid you reference might have some notions to sort through.  Maybe the kid was raised to have beliefs that run counter to the kind of sex we rawguys need, and it just flipped him out. 

It can be confounding, trying to figure out the reasons for seeking out that kind of a place, and then reacting in such a strange way when an opportunity presents itself.  I'd just put it down to some poor kid, raised in a particularly cruel way, trying to come to terms with who and what he is.  If you see him again, buy him a soda and just let him talk it out (with a little encouragement from you, if it seems appropriate).  

37 minutes ago, verbalBTTM said:

Something about a fast muscle car that has a roar to it tickles something primal.

Yeah ... and those tight Levi's those two wore had nothing to do with it ...<polite cough>

1 hour ago, PozTalkAuthor said:

He says

... anything that stumbles into his head at the moment, which is why nothing he says can be taken at face value.  Apparently, his mental "filter" - which each human being possesses - no longer works, so that his utterances become nothing but noise to lucid folks.  

Add into the mix, a sorely-confused mindset that is focused only on satisfying his wish-of-the-moment, and we wind up with gangs of unruly armed mobs running amok in Minneapolis/St. Paul, stunningly confused commentary about "taking" Greenland, which has been associated with Denmark since the days of the Vikings.  He mouths one platitude, and acts diametrically opposite to that platitude moments - literally moments - later.  The man is clearly, obviously unwell, his "abilities" are fading fast, and sadly, he's trying to simply destroy the nation.  

From the Oxford:

"A hypocrite is someone who pretends to have virtues, beliefs, or moral standards they don't actually possess, or whose actions contradict their stated principles, often to appear good while acting otherwise, essentially being a "play actor" or two-faced person. They profess certain ideals (like caring for the environment) but don't follow them in their own lives (like driving a gas guzzler). 

Key characteristics

Pretends virtue: Claims to be moral, pious, or virtuous but isn't."

1 hour ago, PozTalkAuthor said:

Well, the word is TOKENISM.

I don't particularly endorse that contrivance either. 

However, if the result is a beginning to address past wrongs, create a deeper understanding of problems, and potential remedies, starting with "tokenism" is better than not starting at all.  To my way of thinking, it's when "tokenism" becomes both the beginning and the end of the effort that it becomes useless.  

Filling an open position with someone who fits only the "token" bill accomplishes nothing, if they happen to be incompetent to advance the issue at hand.  Filling an open position with someone who fits the bill of an underrepresented community, and who also can accomplish the job is the whole point of giving some underrepresented person an equal chance.

Once I hired a salesperson on the basis of underrepresentation, because that person was equally able relative to other applicants for that position.  She was a lesbian, also of Filipino descent, so I managed to fulfil two of the goals in one hire.  Had she not worked out, she would have been gone, but she worked out well.  To me, that's a win/win, all the way around.  

Point:  when each of us does what we can to redress wrongs, we should do that.  It only helps move cultural redress forward, even if in only some small way.  

13 hours ago, BBDreamer said:

I want you in me all day long

Do I get time to have something to eat .... besides your sweet, hot sperm-filled cumhole, I mean ..... I can eat (regular food) fairly quickly, but I like to take my time with eating the more  emotionally-substantive "food", particularly when there's a "buffet" being served ... 💦

Just a couple of the usual ones .... call the doc, go over there, and shortly it's over and done with.  

On 1/8/2026 at 5:00 PM, jmw003 said:

It did just slip in on its own.

Ohferheavessake ..... if I had a nickel for every time that one worked ...... do guys still fall for that old saw ?

On 1/9/2026 at 5:42 AM, verbalBTTM said:

Almost up to a Ferrari

That's one I never owned ... Big, fast Detroit MUSCLE always worked for me; particularly 440 MoPars.  

I have nothing but respect for the more carefully-engineered cars like Ferrari though.  

21 hours ago, ckskr1963 said:

Sundays were odd days as no matter how much sex happened the night before

Apparently, the old saying "the family that fucks together stays together" or something like that, is TRUE. 😃

Actually, back when I was using the cruise apps, I don't recall actually paying for them.  Maybe I did - maybe I didn't - just don't recall.  I do remember some of the guys I fucked using those apps though.  Fun times !!!