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I'll agree with this statement, and happily so.

No apologies needed, my friend. Your points are well-made and understood. I agree that elements of populism are found in fascist regimes, but carried to a more extreme extent. Where the current state of affairs falls on an imaginary scale of fascism vs populism isn't my point; rather, it is my disinclination to place an inordinate amount of value on what AI "thinks". I'll agree that AI can come up with pre-conceived notions that may or may not fit properly into a question or conversation, but it's not even close to an educated human brain.

Thanks, TightBott7, for that interesting addition to the conversation. When a man identifies as a Bd/Sm/Leather bottom, that doesn't mean he's a "submissive" in every other aspect of his life. A man that loves submission sexually may very well be the loudest-mouthed guy at some other, non-sexual event. The entire point is, each man has equal agency up to the moment the negotiated scene commences. Then, the limits agreed to by both men become tantamount to law - not to be broken, but to be observed and respected, since any other behavior would reflect most poorly on the one who "broke" the negotiated rule, and physical injury may be another of the outcomes. In other words, the shame of becoming known for breaking limits would inhibit either for doing so. These groups are - mostly because of the dearth of men committed to this kind of sexual life - closely knit, and nothing passes faster than one guy saying to another "did you hear what X did to y? " We need to make sure he's (the victim) ok .... I don't understand why ..... ...... that could be the case. Doms (as opposed to Tops that are naturally somewhat dominant) simply don't want to allow any deviation from what they've agreed to because it will demean themselves in their own eyes. More, when word gets out that they're irresponsible, so will their opportunities in the future. They know that disregarding limits negotiated by the bottom (whatever they may be) is dishonest and a shame on their reputation. What Dominant man would want to be known for breaking negotiated limits? Each of these more rarified "communities" - B/d, S/m, Leather - are relatively tightly-knit, like a "brotherhood", and the last thing any guy would want to be known for (within his own community) would be the shame of breaking a negotiated "limit". The "enforcement" aspect of the limits is self-generated, since word always gets out when some guy breaks a negotiated limit. Finally, a negotiation is merely that. If neither man involved can commit to honoring an agreement, then obviously they go their own separate ways. That's a far better outcome than someone getting seriously injured, merely because they mistakenly think the "scene" has already begun, and he has no agency at all. I don't believe that many Tops of any configuration want to be known for dishonest behavior. After all - Tops need bottoms, they're precious to us. Without bottoms (regardless of the specialties" we're discussing here), where would we Tops be?

<grinnnnnnn> Wishing you all the fantastic, filthy, wonderful, fulfilling, rewarding down-n-drrrrrty sex you can handle !!!😁💦

Wellllll ..... Artificial, yes ..... Intelligence, maaaaaybe, maaaaaaybe not so much: No, the leaders of the European nations knew perfectly well that non-German speaking nations had been "using" German-speaking lands to fight their wars for centuries. The leaders of the victors of WWI were leaders of exhausted nations, and simply crossed their fingers behind their backs, and then looked the other way. AI needs to take another look. If AI learned that appeasement simply does not work (in world-affairs), or by any other means, it would be a bit less shallow. For instance, what would AI have to say about today's military adventurism, fomented by Mr. Trump (with the aid of the PM of Israel)? Since it's already happened, no point in asking AI what he/she/it thinks of the possibilities. If AI came up with something along the lines of a breathtakingly weak man being manipulated by a most competent manipulator, PM of a certain nation in the Levant, then that would be at least a plus for Mr. AI. To the issue of appeasement, the non-German countries were just as deeply troubled by the depression as every other nation, only more-so, having just gone through a terribly-bloody war. I may be mistaken, and I'm not going to ask Mr. AI, but I believe that the nazi party won the elections in 1931(?), which - according to the German Constitution, meant the party that wins the election takes over the German government. Thus, taking power was a Constitutionally-required event for the nazi party, and it happened legitimately, just as the entire industrialized world was sinking into the depths of world-wide depression. So, sweet boy - let's ask AI what it thinks about the adventurism taking place today in the Levant - see if Mr. AI has digested his breakfast yet .....

To the O.P., I wouldn't consider it for as much as a minute. I don't give a rats ass who knows about what I do sexually. There are two groups: Those that wouldn't want to know for love nor money, and those who wouldn't comprehend in the first place. I've never won any beauty contests, but then I've never entered one either. NO guy that takes my cock up his gut does so because he thinks I'm good-lookin. On the other hand, no guy has run away either. Just a regular guy here.

Assuming a hookup with a 'new' bottom I hadn't interacted with prior, I operate on a different "plane", in that each man has equal agency when meeting for negotiating the planned scene. Frankly, I've never heard of a Bd/Sm/Leather scene where the bottom "sets" the limits. The "limits" - or acts that will or will not take place - is the entire purpose of the "negotiation", and each man has 100% equal agency at that time. Neither man has any more (or less) power over the other; it's nothing more than a negotiation of what will and what will not take place during the scene. Total honestly is expected and assumed. The Bd/Sm/Leather Community in any particular area is likely to be fairly small (limited in number), and word of any kind of violation of the limits will get around like wildfire, be investigated, and the man that commits the violation (if any) will lose any respect he may have enjoyed within that community. That's called "peer-pressure at it's most effective". If an impasse becomes un-negotiable, (meaning agreement to limits/terms/whatever cannot be reached), each man thanks the other for his time, says something positive towards the other, and they part company.

Thanks for that interesting response, RubberAustria. I do have a question, however: How different are "fascism" and "populism from the far right"? The only difference I see, is that one actually happened in Europe, and the other has not yet fully come to pass here in the US.

"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, and forcible suppression of opposition. It prioritizes nation and often race above individual rights, aiming for a national "rebirth" through total social and economic regimentation. " Wikipedia seems to think so ....

Sounds to me like you've already accomplished the most important part of the negotiation - that being making your limits clear, and he accepted them. The rest is just submersing your mind and body in the pleasure !!!

So do we, bareback-flipflop !!! Slammer is the thing that we locals want to share with EVERY GUY !!!! If you were there on a Fri and/or Sat night, there's a chance we know each other better than we think 😁

eeeeeeeeewwwwwww ............ the imaginary visuals are truly breath-taking 😱

you're all a bunch of PIGS - sweet, beautiful, wonderful PIGS ❤️

Kinda? Christ - it's downright vomit-inducing.

It's neither fun nor anywhere near to appropriate. Corporal distress can be a useful tool, provided the Top knows what he's doing. When that's simply not the case, it's downright dangerous for the sub. I don't know how a sub bottom could get the notion that just because a man says he's this or that, it's actually the case. In the case of Bd/Sm sex, that 'acceptance' of a statement as Whatever's Truth is downright dangerous. This is why I beat the drum occasionally (in appropriate threads) about the boy insisting on a negotiation well before any 'scene' is to take place. NO man, particularly a sub, is nothing but a piece of breedmeat, regardless of whether that concept raises a sweat on one's brow. It's downright fukkin dangerous for a boy to merely accept as fact what any man says when it comes to corporal distress. Boys simply need to insist on what's called a "negotiation-of-limits" meeting well prior to the actual event. A boys well-being, both physically and definitely emotionally depends on more than mere talk, it depends on taking the man's measure in person, wherein things such as limits, acts that are desired, acts that aren't, can be negotiated between the two equals, since until the scheduled moment the scene begins, that's exactly what they are. Tops that mistreat bottoms in an attempt to bolster their own weaknesses are beneath contempt. When two men meet, become acquainted, and grow close enough to establish a more regimented relationship, that's one thing. Until that point in the relationship is reached, however, it's up to each man to pointedly describe any sexual acts he's not comfortable with, and that means it's forbidden at the upcoming scene. Any man, T, b, or in between that won't accept those parameters is simply not trustworthy, and should be avoided. Every so often, when I lived in Chicago, there would be several murders, particularly in the highrises along the lake on the east end of boystown. And none of them needed to happen, but they did happen because some bottoms seem to think they have zero agency, when that is the farthest thing from the truth. Each man has equal agency while negotiating limits, what will happen during the scene, what will not, etc etc. Pardon the rant, but I wonder if anything other thing under the sun pisses me of more than losing men of tremendous value, merely because they don't believe they own just as much agency / value as any other man up to the moment a negotiated Bd/Sm scene commences. 😠

I guess it would depend on the venue ..... a regular fuckjoint, just jeans and a t .... mostly because they run the ac units full blast, and it gets really cold in some areas.

uhhh .... play with lego blocks ???

Shucks .... if I could still blush, I would ....

It's mutual, PBW ....

You're being most gracious in that description, blackrobe. I think the fact is, there aren't enough naturally-inclined Tops around to keep their bottoms satisfied. To your question above though, pleasing oneself above pleasing both partners has, I think, always been an issue for gay guys. Not because we're innately selfish, but more because we don't have the benefit of culturally-acceptable "family trees". Only in the large, major population centers do we find organizations dedicated to - and for the advancement of - men who hear (and answer) the Call to Dominance. I was fortunate, living in Chicago, to find and associate with a couple of those kinds of organizations, and benefitted from those experiences. Maybe that can be replicated (to some degree) in online organizations? We could most likely start one here on BZ, if enough guys would be interested. It wouldn't be like the in-the-flesh memberships in Leather or Bd/Sm clubs of the past, but these days nothing is like it used to be. You mention the issue of appearing "performative", and that's an astute perception. I'm not really sure how many (percentage-wise) men there that even remember those in-the-flesh membership organizations. For example, I well-remember being corrected years ago by a Master at CHC, when learning the proper way to handle a flogger. A Master observed me, interrupted me and then corrected me, and watched me continue to make sure he'd corrected the issue. Interesting that you comment about the appearance of being "performative"; for some guys, it isn't much more than that, and who needs to perpetuate that mess? I think that in any group setting, some measure of "performative" acts will take place, mostly by those men who aren't quite secure in their knowledge of self, which is reflected in their skills. I see you're in Seattle - are there any gay newspapers, periodicals in your area which would carry ads, announcements of Leather/Bd/Sm organizations? That would be a good start, and I'll cross my balls that there are (since obviously, my fingers are busy now). I'm not conflating the Leatherlife with Bondage or Sadomasochism; they are often related, but also have different goals. If you'd like, maybe further discussion via private message would be most appropriate?

That's a most laudable goal - lots of cumdumps are what I guess we'd call "toned"?, but not many are what we'd call a muscle-cumdump. I have nothing against a soft-ish ass - far from it - but rutting in a well-bred musclehole is a rare treat. Butch-as-nails guys need loads too !!!

Patel is reportedly (google) 5'9". He looks shorter though, because of that deflated-inner-tube-like belly. However, to the O.P., if running around the world to attend sporting events is the only misstep he makes, he's the paragon of virtue compared to his fellow cabinet members - Bottle Blondi, somehow leaps to mind. The "kava bag" Ice-clown isn't far behind either.

First, congrats on figuring out who and what you need to become. You might want to check out a couple of gyms in your area; see if there are any guys lurking around with a matching fetish. Breeding a muscle ass is hot - and one full of loads off prior cocks is something a lot of guys can only dream about ...

I'm the farthest thing from a medically trained guy, but I can imagine a scenario where a bottom (or a Top, for that matter) that's accustomed to regular, frequent raw sex could get a bit gnarly when, for one reason or another, he's not able to feed that insatiable need. Females have an excuse every month: I think it's only fair that if, for whatever reason, WE experience a dearth of action for a while, we get the same break.