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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ........... I wouldn't put it past T to bend over for "The King" .... notice that scepter with all the points on that shiny thing at the top ..... 

btw - I don't blame the folks who bought Teslas - they were doing the right thing, at the time.

My VPN allows me to choose "locations" throughout the world.  When you-know-hoo re-ascended to the Oval, I "moved" from where I actually live to Copenhagen - which cleared up all the picayuni crap the Administration had caused.  Sometimes I have to turn it off (the VPN) momentarily to reach some sites, but not BZ.   

On 1/24/2025 at 4:44 PM, BBdaddybear said:

I think those of us in Canada should organize a massive asylum orgy in Montreal

That'd be great fun, but more to the point - send us contact information on QUEER REALTORS in the area (if we're still even welcome in your lovely nation).  We should always try to "buy from our own" - whatever the product happens to be.  

1 hour ago, NWUSHorny said:

Can someone explain the difference between the new right and the old far left?

I hope so .... I sure can't.  

7 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

Engagement is challenging and risky, vulnerable, especially where there is disagreement

Of course.  The fact is, most of us lead busy lives, working, activities, fucking, all important facets of living our lives.  For some of us, so is debate, the entire point of which is to offer ideas, positions on issues, ideas on all manner of subjects, and receive honest, equally well meaning responses.  As other guys above have said, disagreement need not become disagreeable.  It's the discourse that brings many of us back, since there's a carefully-constructed feeling of "community" here on BZ. 

No guy always agrees with everything - that would obviate the entire purpose.  The "response" doo-dads allow us to express a general position re: that post/response, yet move on to other subject matter easily.  I think of them as mini-additions to the conversation, which is why the great majority of guys keep coming back - some weekly, some daily, some less frequently.  Every guy can fit in where he feels is most advantageous.  

On 4/2/2025 at 12:18 PM, tallslenderguy said:

some of the best political commentary today comes from comedians

Hasn't that always been the case?  Extending back centuries, to the "Court Jesters" with their veiled insults to the Crowned Head of the day?  

Interesting topic, some most interesting responses.  

On the face of it, there's no actual *reason* that I can come up with to demean gay incest. 

The reason "incest" carries such a regrettable cachet, is the assumption that it would be a) heterosexual, and b) between siblings or close relatives.  That kind of incest (between closely-related male-female participants) can result in a very regrettable mix in the gene pool, with serious, life-long results.  

That said, when it's between two siblings/close relatives of the same gender, no procreation can possibly take place, thus eliminating the natural and well-earned status of being [banned word].  I don't have a brother (that I know of anyway), so I can only offer that I see no real reason two family members of the same gender shouldn't extend their mutually-felt feelings to the sexual level.  I can definitely see how a father/son arrangement could be difficult to maneuver, if the son were underage. 

But, there are potential missteps to every relationship - what counts in how they're dealt with.  

Sounds like a guy to avoid, unless you're into dangerous stuff.  

2 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

reich-wingers

First, if you were away for a while, hope you enjoyed yourself.  I enjoy your input very much - as well as the zingers like the one quoted above.  "Hair Furor" still gives me a chuckle.  

But humor only sharpens, enlivens the crux of the commentary, and yours is always well worth the read.  I don't admire dullards, so I just ignore them.  It seems the louder they holler the less inclined they are to - as  you put it - "go find the facts".

On 4/4/2025 at 10:11 PM, Erik62 said:

I'll cross anything you ask me too

I would NEVER ask you to cross your legs.  I definitely would ask you to open them as wide as possible, use certain items in the trunk in the slingroom to keep them that way, and (with the proper agreement prior) call every pig I know with a hot hard breedcock, full balls, and get them over here asap.  

2 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

Especially using them without including a response or explanation

I tend to avoid using downvotes generally, since they're an obvious rejection of the foundational premise of the site; interaction with others.  

That said, there are a couple of contributors that I simply don't read.  Guys who always have nothing but rejection of what others post, constantly throwing stones at other guys contributions, is a time-waster, as I see it. 

So, I simply don't bother to read any of those two guys contributions.  There are plenty of sincere contributors on BZ that aren't so impressed with themselves, and I read, respond to thoughts/replies from all the rest of us.  Frankly, I hope those two return the favor.  

34 minutes ago, ellentonboy said:

but I do take exception to 'the HIV issue

First, thanks for your response.  What I meant by that phase, is that the advent of hiv was exponentially more deleterious than the normal "ebb and flow" of changes in human history.  It was such an earth-shaking situation for those of us that lived through it, nothing can compare.  Back in Chicago, we were all going to the tubs, the fleshpots just as always too, until that virus came along. The shock, however, was the same across the board when our friends started becoming so ill, with many dying before they even reached their prime.  You're right, of course - that condoms were unheard of at the time*, until it was either condoms or nothing if we wanted to live.  

Your point about the costs of being in business is a good one.  Insurance costs are an easy one to pick at, and I would imagine fuckjoints present some special situations.  No one wants to work for $3 an hour either these days.  What does surprise me though, is the dearth of gh joints in Ft. L.  There were plenty back in Chgo, but I don't know of one gh joint around here.  I don't get it.  HIV can't possibly have anything to do with that (meaning, what might have made sense to local legislators years ago makes no sense presently).  

*At least in the gay community ... I remember there was a group of guys at CHC down on Leavitt that fetishized condoms, and the rest of us thought them a bit odd.  But hey - different stokes, right?  I too think that the worst of hiv is behind us, given the medical advances, etc.  It's not the automatic death-sentence that it once was, for which I am eternally grateful.  

Finally, given the advances in preventative treatments, it seems that hiv is slowly retreating from the center of our group consciousness.  From some of the submissions here on BZ, one would think it's not much more than a common cold, regardless of the actual facts.  I'm certain that if my other half and I hadn't stopped all outside sex when we did, we'd both have left many years ago.  

To the economy, it already has forced uncounted numbers to make more room in their economic plans for their retirements.  These days, nothing is guaranteed, and each of us is on our own.  But, better that than the alternative, I suppose.  

Thanks for your commentary.

23 hours ago, PozBearWI said:

[think before following links] https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/04/03/trump-wilson-world-war-hochschild/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F41ebbe7%2F67eeb3401c02d2281d849193%2F66845dc845de25149424c9ec%2F19%2F65%2F67eeb3401c02d2281d849193

Thanks, PozBearWI, for (re)offering this timely article.  Isn't it interesting how that old saw ... "history repeats itself" ... comes to mind?  Let's cross our fingers, toes, arms, legs, eyes, that the result of that myopia is not included in the current iteration ..... 

On 4/3/2025 at 12:48 PM, ellentonboy said:

Again, any comments are greatly appreciated.

It seems that everything is more costly - and I'm not referring to the price of eggs, the recent hullabaloo caused by the tariffs (indexes have absolutely tanked today), etc etc.  Removing the Presidential causes of the recent loosing of the hounds of hell from the equation, it's the nature of things to gradually increase in price (operative word being "gradually").  

i think our group-sense of being something of a fraternity - a "place" - an "identity" - has faded substantially over the years, particularly given the hiv issue.  Even with all the medical advances, every guy other than a teenager can remember what happened, and that has a residual effect too.  

But nothing ever remains the same - everything is always in a state of flux - one thing fading, another advancing - and we wind up with "change" being the only thing that never does.  Things always change, and we just have to do our best to keep up (but, we can't help but remember how things used to be (filthy grin).

19 hours ago, NWUSHorny said:

Hasn't he stated that "I take no responsibility at all"

Of course ... many times, particularly and spectacularly when it's crystalline that he's completely, totally responsible.  The current debacle in what passes for "policy" - the absolute tanking of the markets, the tariffs creating the worst financial havoc since November 1929, the fact that no one but him could have committed this act, and still he's blathering ill-informed, dull, beginner-class foolishness while the Financial World Burns is just one - if gigantically harmful - example.  

9 hours ago, BlueSaphir said:

This nightmare with the current administration will never end

Welllllllllllll ...... no one lives forever ....... 

Whether they die in office, or in the clink serving time - natural causes or un - everyone gets to go see what's next, if anything, at some point.  

As Bessie Smith once sang:  "Fiery furnace, down below - if you ain't right, down you go .....".  I think the title of that one is Moan, you Moaners. 

Playing piano in all those decrepit old dive-bars on the South Side years ago (the Checkerboard being the most well known), did allow me to discover a whole 'nother world .... and thank Whatever for it.  

on Recent Events.

So yesterday was a big one in FL and WI.  As it turns out, it was a big day for all folks of good will too.  

While both FL candidates were Republicans, the chances of a Democrat winning either of these seats was absolutely nil, as both seats are in the reddest of the red districts.  The only question would be, what kind of point-spread would there be?  To (almost) everyone's surprise, the point spread was approximately half of the spread during the regular election.  This is a promising flag for the minority party, and a red-flag warning to the party in power.  No one doubted that Republicans would win - only the margin would count.  

Things were even more surprising in Wisconsin*.  When the Muskrat came dancing out onto the stage, complete with a foam-rubber "cheesehead" on his noggin, with all the money (literally) in the World, lo and behold - the nonsensical Wisconsinites said no, and he failed to get the Republican candidate over the top.  Again, the point-spread was rather dramatically shifted to the Liberal's favor. 

Thus, the current Administration's seemingly complete grip on power has been clearly and firmly challenged, with these electoral results in two very different areas of the country.  Some overly-hopeful person might say this is the harbinger of victories to come, but  I don't believe in magic.  I believe in work - doing the work, alongside thousands of similarly-minded citizens, all across the nation.  

And that's what it will take - work - and then some more work to right the Ship of State here in America.  That said, every victory, however small, will certainly lead to the saving of the Nation.  Do something.  Get up off the chair, get in touch with one (or three) of the countless local organizations, and do something.  Tomorrow I'm heading to some small burg (apparently) just South of Ft. L., for a demonstration.  If I can, you can too.  Rouse the rabble.  Shout the slogans.  Make protest-signs.  Do it proudly.  Sitting around crabbing about this or that won't help.  DO something.  

*which I have no small familiarity with, having owned some property there for many years.  

What is "this"? 

There's no description of what it "is" ....... 

What I like to do isn't dictated by the location/venue ... 

It's the same no matter which type of fuckjoint I'm in.  Or not in, for that matter .... 

My "type" are guys that don't look like me.  

Dark complected, not necessarily an ape-man, but not almost no body hair like me.  And, intellectually curious (but that's the frosting on the cake).  Finally, over and done with all the insecurities ... knows what he loves most, and gets it as often as he possibly can.  

LOL .... again and again 

Well done.  

17 hours ago, josh567 said:

but I’m worried I’m worried I’m not enough

Wellllllllll .......... it sounds like you're falling into a "hetero" trap to me.  One thing that the hets have failed to foist upon us is the notion that "one should be enough".  That's a false equivalency if ever there were one.  Most gay guys know that one guy can be the whole world to you, but sexually we're wired to want more (sometimes a helluva lot more) guys than only one.  It's a wonderful thing when we find a "soulmate", and share our lives with that one guy.  And, that can happen in tandem with our sexual lives, in which one guy (sexually) is seldom enough.  

That said, there are plenty of guys who are a "1-man's-man" type, and the only folks that have to be ok with that are the two principals.  What everyone else thinks doesn't matter.  Most importantly though, is don't judge him for his decisions, the paths his lusts require.  If you can accept him as he is - and he does the same for you - that's the important thing.  

Good luck !

Welcome, new guys ...

We hope to hear more from each of you.  Cheers !!

17 hours ago, Rickmaxwell said:

Never felt sluttier

But did it make you feel great about what a slut you're becoming?  Or did you feel something different?

(btw - I see you're a new member - thanks for posting; we look forward to hearing more from you.  Welcome to BZ !)

On 3/28/2025 at 4:12 AM, jd13 said:

That sounds like one fuck to me

Agreed.  

That said, it's sometimes useful to have separate terminology for different phases: 

A "fuck" = a load leaves the Top's balls, and gets pumped into the bottom's body. 

A "rut" = the Top "rutting" in the bottom's Hole - maybe for quite a while - but not pumping any load.