Advice for a 21 year old top who's considering a few things?

[youngtopsd1]

So here's a bit of a history before I move on to asking a few questions.

I'm 21 years old, am attending college, and lucky me, I'm in a situation where I can't host and I don't have a car on campus because parking is too expensive. I'm also a total top who prefers older guys to fuck (odd, I know). And yes, I do consider myself bi right now (please don't bash me for this, it's genuinely how I feel right now).

My first barebacking experience was when I was 18 (almost 19). Went to a hotel room where a guy was hosting a glory hole. I put my dick in, he sucked me off, then turned around (without me even realizing it) and then shoved his ass all the way down my dick raw. I was really surprised because this wasn't exactly consensual, but more surprised at how awesome it felt- really warm, and really moist. I pumped away until I came. Then got paranoid about HIV.

So, I tried doing safe sex for a while (about a year and a half, I think), before I came back to doing bb. Because there really was nothing in comparison. Only did it with guys who claimed they were neg. Found Craigslist to be awful, moved onto establishing an adam4adam and Manhunt account. Finally started a bbrts account. So far, I've fucked probably 3 or 4 guys from there. Found more off of adam4adam, and some more off Craigslist (despite it being full of flakes). So all in all, I've probably had 40 hookups (with not as many guys) over the past 2 and a half years, many of them safe, some of them bb.

So, what I've noticed is though, is that lately, I can't really bring myself to fuck safe. Probably the past 6 of 7 hookups I've had over the past year were bb. But it isn't often at all that I fuck, mainly because a) the limited number of bottoms who claim they're neg, and someone of them don't want to pick me up since I don't have a car and I can't host. And I'm horny much of the time, every day. Makes for a horrible sex situation!

So I'm on the edge right now whether I should start fucking poz undetectable bottoms since the risk of getting HIV is very low for tops (yet there's a risk), or continue maintaining fucking guys who claim they're neg. I know it seems ridiculous to many of you that I'm concerned over HIV, yet bareback, but I understand that there's a calculated risk to everything. I know I am disease free, have been tested recently. But fucking poz undetectable bottoms would greatly expand my options, since there are some hot guys (I'm into guys older than me) in my area who would want to meet with me, and would likely pick me up.

Also, another thought is that I've been introduced to bb too early (really, it wasn't exactly consensual at first but I loved the feeling and went through with it), since so many guys I've talked to before started it later.

Lastly, are many older guys ok with a young guy who tops older guys? (I really have no desire to bottom). I like topping older guys, I find it hot. I know the expectation is that the young guy bottoms.

What are your thoughts and (thoughtful) advice on this? I know this is obviously not the best place to ask, but I'd rather hear it from guys who bareback, then guys who either trash the person talking about bareback, or refuse to hear me out (if it were another site).

[GermanFucker]

Lastly, are many older guys ok with a young guy who tops older guys?

I found that many versatile bottoms only fuck younger, boyish types, but when the other guy's older and more masculine they want to be fucked themselves. It's a psychological thing.

On the other hand, however, few (versatile) bottoms have problems with being fucked by younger tops. Many find it hot.

Other than that: What exactly are your questions???

[Guest GoodExercise]

Fuck me. I will take it. I love a young top that needs to breed an older bottom.

Yes, it is time to loosen up and fuck poz undetectable bottoms. Well past time, really. Go for what you need.

[rawTOP]

So, what I've noticed is though, is that lately, I can't really bring myself to fuck safe. Probably the past 6 of 7 hookups I've had over the past year were bb.

Barebacking is an addictive, one-way street. Just accept it and ditch the condoms.

So I'm on the edge right now whether I should start fucking poz undetectable bottoms since the risk of getting HIV is very low for tops (yet there's a risk), or continue maintaining fucking guys who claim they're neg.

IMHO, you're at lower risk with an undetectable bottom because neg bottoms may be poz and not know it in which case they could possibly infect a top.

Also, another thought is that I've been introduced to bb too early

lol It's never too early.

[youngtopsd1]

I'm sorry, I probably should have been a little more specific. I'll clarify it for you: a) What are your thoughts and advice on fucking poz undetectable bottoms in addition to "neg" ones, given the situation I described? Just go for it? Was I introduced to bb too early?

Hope that helps.

[rawTOP]

I'm sorry, I probably should have been a little more specific. I'll clarify it for you: a) What are your thoughts and advice on fucking poz undetectable bottoms in addition to "neg" ones, given the situation I described? Just go for it? Was I introduced to bb too early?

Hope that helps.

Maybe you didn't understand me, but by adding undetectable bottoms to who you fuck you will lower your risk since you're less likely to get HIV from them than from a bottom who claims to be neg.

No, you weren't introduced too early. You're in your sexual prime. You should enjoy sex to the fullest.

[youngtopsd1]

Maybe you didn't understand me, but by adding undetectable bottoms to who you fuck you will lower your risk since you're less likely to get HIV from them than from a bottom who claims to be neg.

No, you weren't introduced too early. You're in your sexual prime. You should enjoy sex to the fullest.

I did understand you and knew you understood. Germanfucker was asking what my questions exactly were, so I was clarifying for him.

[PozPhxStud]

I know many of the bb fuckers in phoenix, and since tops are so rare, if you are any good they won't care that you're younger. Hell, I would love to watch a hot 21 year old breed my boy and then fuck the young man's cum deeper into my boy, but that's just me.

You are asking your questions on breeding zone, so it seems like you are looking for affirmation on a decision you've already made, you want to fuck undetectable poz bottoms, but you need someone's "permission" to do it. Permission Granted. If you want to hit my partner and I up for the previously mentioned tag team, we're on bbrt and a4a with the same screen name.

As for starting to bb too young: I was introduced to bb when I was 16, and loved it! I didn't want to ever use condoms again. I ended up using them with strangers, but not partners for a while, and then I slowly started using them less and less, until I was 100% bb. I was 100% bb by the time I was 23, so I don't think that you were (are) too young to be a bb top. Breed away, and have a good time with it.

PS. I second what rawTOP said, "neg" guys who take it bb are not always negative. Some don't know their status, and some are lying to you. You are actually putting yourself at a higher risk by only fucking "neg" guys. But you knew that already too, or else why use the scare quotes in your original post. I firmly believe that you are better off with the devil you know, rather than the devil you don't know.

[PERVERSATILE]

this may offer you yet another skewed perspective-

Starting in 1978 I was fuckin balls to the fuckin'wall-

men and women-

Topped and Bottomed

just for fun and as a sex industry worker.

in major cities

All over the country.

i didn't "ketch the AIDS"/serio convert

until early 2000.

Short of building some number crunching statistical genomic model~ These are the kind of odds the should allow you to make a decision you can feel good about

[OKJOE]

As a recent college student/current grad student I would advise you to really consider your decisions. While many guys on here that have jobs or are in other countries that give them healthcare coverage, we sadly are not usually in that boat. Before you decide anything look at what's best for you, not just some guy on here's fantasy. Take some time and look into health issues and maybe Pre-exposure meds if you want to keep BBing and are worried about the consequences.

Also just to add my voice to the chorus, more guys covert from "neg" guys that are really just unmedicated than undetectable. It's a better idea to assume all are Poz and unmedicated. Best of luck with what you decide.

[youngtopsd1]

As a recent college student/current grad student I would advise you to really consider your decisions. While many guys on here that have jobs or are in other countries that give them healthcare coverage, we sadly are not usually in that boat. Before you decide anything look at what's best for you, not just some guy on here's fantasy. Take some time and look into health issues and maybe Pre-exposure meds if you want to keep BBing and are worried about the consequences.

Also just to add my voice to the chorus, more guys covert from "neg" guys that are really just unmedicated than undetectable. It's a better idea to assume all are Poz and unmedicated. Best of luck with what you decide.

Thanks for the advice- I have been doing a lot of research on the whole issue, so rest assured, I have been thinking about it for a while and am considering my decisions.

I should like to emphasize that I have not "made the decision already", and am not seeking people's "permission" to do it. I'm well aware that I'm asking this on a bareback-related site, but it's because this site is far more likely to have people who would understand my situation, then on other sites that have closed-minded people whose automatic response is to either ostracize or attack the original poster for considering bareback. Which I have seen before.

All of the responses I've heard so far today have been food for thought, and I thank you all for taking some time out of your day to write them. Would love to hear more people's input if they're willing to give it.

[Guest Matias47]

A medicated undetectable poz bottom is certainly safer than someone claiming neg. But they could be fibbing about their status, though it's my feeling that you'll find more poz lying about neg than vice versa. And it's pretty much assumed by the scientific community (with evidence) at this point that hiv is spread mostly by those that are unaware of their status and who imo claim to be neg. I'd say, in general, go for the undetectable guy.

The other major risk for all barebackers is of course other stds. I recommend regular testing.

As far as the older bottom/younger top thing - go for that, too. Just put it in your ad, I think you'll find some. I usually find tops younger than me. When I find a top, that is.

BTW, I get through Phoenix a few times a year ...

[rawplayboston]

when I first started barebacking, I got fucked regularly by several poz guys and took many, many poz loads in my ass. All were poz but on meds and undetectable, and I've routinely tested neg. The past few years I've been topping pretty exclusively, and I've fucked a lot of poz guys raw and most of them were definitely on meds...I'm still testing neg. It is true you are at a higher risk for other std's (I have had ngu a couple of times) so drinking a lot of fluids & pissing after you fuck raw PLUS getting std testing regularly is a good thing

[slowfuck]

On the status issue, there's a risk whatever status they say they are, I think it's just a question of what risk reduction policy you wish to adopt - from none through some form of risk assessment through to condoms.

On risk assessment I think it's down whether you trust what the bottom says. If he says he's neg but is always high and in darkrooms or bending over in the woods to take some anonymous loads, he's likely to be in denial and quite likely to be highly infectious for HIV and other STDs. If you meet a curious married guy and seduce him then he's likely to be a low. In the middle, you have the poz undetectables who get tested regularly and take their meds consistently who then will probably be low to no risk. Where the risk with poz undetectables is, I gather, is where they haven't kept up the meds consistently and get high who are greater risk. There's no easy certain answer. It's always risky as I know you know. You need to get good a sizing people up about their honesty and then asking the questions that let you know what kind of risks they've been taking, whatever they say their status is, and taking your chances.

On the fucking older guys, you will find plenty who will happily bend over for you, or throw their legs in the air - it just takes us longer to do that the older we get...

Good luck!

[TxBBTop]

Howdy, i can relate alot... im 23 years old and I started barebacking alot in college. I think i was around 22 when i started breeding undetectable poz guys. There is just hardly any chance for a top to get anything and lots of those poz bottoms are AMAZING in bed