Anyone Else Bored With Generic Porn Verbal/talk? Generic Porn?

[Guest SBBOY]

Can't say I'm a fan of many studios these days due to the falseness of the scene. I know its never going to be golden globes style acting but all the scenes seems to be all exactly the same. 

 

Most porn stars can only manage 3 sentances which are; "mmmmmm yea", "fuck yea" and "fuuuuuuuuck"

 

Most of the videos I watch it doesn't even look like the guys are even properly hard when they are fucking and when they are fucking it's the same generic pace, no passion, no deep thrusting. Again I know porn isn't an easy thing to film but I loose interest when I see stuff like that.

 

I  prefer most amateur videos, its more natural, much hotter and usually a lot rougher.

 

I think T.I.M have got it right. Theres the amateur element. The guys are hot. It's all raw. The guys are rock hard when they're fucking and they like using and abusing dirty pigs.

 

Thoughts? 

[Guest]

I posted in another thread that most porn - including bareback porn - is boring. The lack of hot verbal interaction reflects the lack of any genuine connection between the men in most scenes.

 

The only thing that seems to link them is the top's dick and the bottom's hole. I suppose that's why the videography seems to be mostly tight shots of dicks pumping holes, rather than showing the guys' faces and bodies - which is really what makes sex hot to watch.

 

I agree that TIM is one of the better studios. Although some of their scenes are also as I described above, Paul Morris probably has pushed the boundaries of porn more than anyone else. Some of his scenes have dropped hints of poz sex, but I'm still waiting to see it as the norm in any film.

Edited January 15, 2015 by PozFetishPig

[NLbear]

Close ups can be hot, certainly when the tops delivers his cum,  but become boring when too many shots are focused on "dick in hole".

I agree with PozFetishPig that scenes with bodies and faces are hotter. There needs to be good mix of both to make me watch the whole movie and not fastforward certain scenes.

 

Sleazy_brit_boy...you forgot one top verbal: "you want my dick in your hole?"  and the bottom replying "yeah, give it to me". The rest indeed seems to be limited to the ones you mentioned, although I must say that is mostly the case with performers who are not native English speakers (although....sometimes....) :-)

[Guest]

One more thought about the obvious lack of connection between guys in most porn scenes: There is hardly any KISSING!

 

Everyone's taste is different, of course. But when I'm with a guy, there is no connection - and therefore, no fucking or sex of any kind - without kissing and making out.

 

I agree that a lot of amateur vids to a better job at depicting a connection between sex partners - but the videography is terrible. If only there were a way to get more professional porn makers to film more amateur couples....

[NLbear]

What I miss mostly about bareback porn is that it is too focused on the bareback thing, the fucking and breeding. Usually in a plain hotel room or a cellar/dungeon and guys go for it, flood the bottom with cum or fuck as many holes you can get. My ideal BB movies would be Titan or Raging Stallion or (yum) ManAtPlay style movies just without the condoms. Movies with a story and hot guys, great production, direction and setting and dialogue.

[genericuser]

Can't say I'm a fan of many studios these days due to the falseness of the scene. I know its never going to be golden globes style acting but all the scenes seems to be all exactly the same. 

 

Most porn stars can only manage 3 sentances which are; "mmmmmm yea", "fuck yea" and "fuuuuuuuuck"

 

Most of the videos I watch it doesn't even look like the guys are even properly hard when they are fucking and when they are fucking it's the same generic pace, no passion, no deep thrusting. Again I know porn isn't an easy thing to film but I loose interest when I see stuff like that.

 

I  prefer most amateur videos, its more natural, much hotter and usually a lot rougher.

 

I think T.I.M have got it right. Theres the amateur element. The guys are hot. It's all raw. The guys are rock hard when they're fucking and they like using and abusing dirty pigs.

 

Thoughts? 

 

Completely agree with everything you mentioned.  I find the amateur videos / webcam sessions where they talk naturally (and in the best one's the talk is super pervy/taboo/uninhibited) and you can tell how into it both guys are far hotter than any produced porn. 

[TigerMilner]

I agree completely.  Too much porn is "Formula" driven.  And that is as much the fault of the consumer as it is the producer.  They think we want 3-5 minutes of sucking followed by 3-5 mins of rimming followed by 5-7 minutes of fucking culminating in pulling out to shoot then sticking it back in all done to the sounds of zombie like moans and canned talk that is more to fill the silence than to be hot.  When they try something other than that it doesn't sell or gets complaints.  TIM is a perfect example of that.  When Paul Morris did all his own videos they were edgy, hot, and new.  Real men fucking.  Then TIM got famous and big and started having memberships to live up too.  Now they crank out the same formula crap as all other studios.  They have to because they committed to their subscribers to provide new content on a regular basis.  No one can be creative on a schedule.  They have deadlines and demographics to keep up with.  We tell them what to produce with what we buy. 

 

Personally, I think the membership website is worst thing ever to happen to porn for the above reasons.  Amatuer porn is free from that and is real guys having real sex.  Which is way hot.  Usually.

Edited January 15, 2015 by TigerMilner

[Guest bbbearlover1]

I agree with pretty much everyone here.  Studio porn (I refuse even to look at any porn with a condom) has been stale for a while.  I still like studios like Machofucker, Raworeo and Rawstrokes, because they seem to have made it a point to include Black top/white bottom couples with real frequency (my personal preference).  But amateur porn will get my attention, and my dick hard, every single time.  I agree with PozFetishPig that many of those boys need some help with videography, lol.  I also enjoy seeing real kissing in my porn.  I may be a Dom, but I love kissing the white males I make use of; there's a real sense of intimacy there.  I also LOVE verbal/loud sex in my porn.  I want to hear those white males beg for those Black dicks and babies in their pussies.  I want to hear my Brothas tell those white males to take those Black dicks.  I want to hear whatever it is that they want to say, whatever is drives them to fuck, vulgar, racial; I don't give a shit.  I just want to see and hear that passion, passion like I have when I play.

[Guest SBBOY]

Great responses to the thread guys. I agree with all the above comments too. Being able to see  the faces and the rest of the body is a huge turn on for me also. There are too many close ups in a lot of porn... a few seconds here and there is fine but a few minutes of it isn't, I tire of it quickly. Scenes that seem to be all close-ups shouldn't have bothered to find such good looking guys, they could have used anyone. 

 

As much as I don't like close ups, I don't like porn that is too far away either or filmed where the camera is on the floor pointing up, it feels like a big distance and almost like a child looking up. I want to see part of it being filmed from the tops shoulder looking down. So I essentially see what the top sees, like I'm in the room, like I'm experiencing it. 

 

My dick gets rock hard when I get to see the facial expressions of the bottom who is struggling to ride such a huge cock, at the same time trying to look like he's enjoying it and having to try and maintain a sexy look on his face. Similarly seeing the tops expressions as he slams into a tight hole too is fantastic. Sometimes a nasty rough passionate top doesn't even need to say anything, his face says it all. 

 

I find pulling out a bit of a turn off too. What's the point in a BB scene if the top doesn't flood the bottoms guts with seed. I'd rather hear the top moaning that he's spunking up a hole and then seeing the cum afterwards as he withdraws and some of it leaks out. 

 

Tiger - you make a really valid point also porn is very structured and follows a set pattern, I've always fast forwarded through porn to get to the fucking. 

 

NLBear - You're right I forgot those sentences too.. but that really must be the only ones in the porn dictionary.  

 

I think the studios really need improve their creativity when it comes to filming especially as competition is fierce and everything is moving more towards internet based only. 

[seaguy]

I imagine some of it comes down to the producers not wanting to get on the wrong side of the law and being there are so many different laws and regulations regarding what is ok and not they tend to leave anything deemed by the lawyers to be not ok.

 

Used to be they would not sell video tapes to people who lived in certain states and cities but with the internet there is no way to control that short of banning countries from viewing if they can even do that.

[Guest SBBOY]

I imagine some of it comes down to the producers not wanting to get on the wrong side of the law and being there are so many different laws and regulations regarding what is ok and not they tend to leave anything deemed by the lawyers to be not ok.

 

Used to be they would not sell video tapes to people who lived in certain states and cities but with the internet there is no way to control that short of banning countries from viewing if they can even do that.

 

 

I can understand that but still it doesn't explain the lack of passion, lack of a proper hard on and being able to come up with a variation on a few scenes and sentences

[negbtmboy4pozloads]

Apart from the lack of real passion, particularly through kissing (and nip play, which is highly erotic to me on a personal level, but not done in a torturous way, but with a long period of licking and gentle teasing as very commonly seen in Japanese porn), I don't understand why the biohazard talk isn't or can't be featured in porn, especially since they are doing everything else to make you think that's what is going on in a scene, especially when you can tell that two openly poz performers passionately engaged in piggy bareback sex are trying hard to refrain themselves from blurting out "poz me up" or "I'm gonna recharge you" towards the money shot. I think so far only one scene from TIM and one scene from RFC include the biohazard talk of a frigging one quick sentence. If TIM can legally release Slammed, Damaged Goods, the 1000 Load Fuck and the abhorrent cut-and-bleed scene, why can't it do more scenes of a poz guy begging for toxic cum openly and without abandon? If porn actors can act out an incestuous fantasy in porn, why cant a neg actor pretend to be a chaser who gets knocked up by a Satanist character played by a neg actor who in real life attends church regularly? 

Edited January 20, 2015 by negbtmboy4pozloads

[wjhnsea]

I prefer amateur porn primarily because I like to be able to identify with whoever is fucking. Since I'm not a twink/bear/hairless 2% bodyfat muscle stud I don't believe the men in professional porn would hook up with me. Since I can't picture myself in those scenes pro porn is uninteresting to me. I also don't like the formulaic and mechanical sex either.

Edited February 1, 2015 by wjhnsea

[Confident]

I'll preface this by saying that I love TIM, and bar a few exceptions, I've bought almost all of their releases. Their porn is by far the hottest and most realistic, but I have major issues with them from a business sense.

 

-- $50 DTO is murder! A surcharge for DVD & shipping I can understand, but Dark Alley download releases are the 2nd most expensive in the industry, and even then are almost half the price. 

-- "pre-release" scenes are a joke. Pay $15 for a scene that you'll end up paying another $50 for to get the whole release a week later? So now it's $65 per release?

-- The updates are inconsistent. There's been no "full" release since the beginning of December, which is odd, given how much they boast about filming scenes that never see daylight.

-- I don't understand the segregation between TIMFuck, TIMJack & TIMSuck memberships. And THEN you've got separate JO and Oral 'only' releases. Why don't they just combine all the sex into single 'event-type' releases, which they could then release twice a month or at least on a more consistent schedule. Rather than dilute their products into all these different options......

 

TIM makes the best porn - especially when you look at Liam Cole's work. Outlaws, Overload, Slammed - they're all my favourites, and they're all Liam Cole. I don't know how serious I am about the idea, but I often think about starting my own company sometime in the future.. it wouldn't rip anything off from TIM, but it would definitely follow in their style and pick up the mistakes they're making...

[hotbbbottom4u]

As much as I love porn, it can get rather boring if it is just the regular stuff. You can almost set your watch to the scenes. Usually 2 minutes of kissing and making out. A minute or so of rubbing cock through jeans. Then the jeans come down and a minute or two of feeling up. Then after about 5 or 6 minutes from the start oral begins. About 7 mins of one guy sucking then 5 mins of the other. Then if your lucky 3 to 5 mins of rimming. Unfortunately a lot of rimming scenes have a poor camera angle and you don't get to see hot ass eating which gets me stroking every time. Then the squirt of lube on hand and into a waiting hole. Then 10 to 15 mins of fucking. It just seems to predictable.