Why do you like Donald Trump and what do you dislike about him.

[BootmanLA]

Name something Trumpanzees find offensive:

1. Intellect

2. Learning

3. Education

4. Concern for one's fellow humans

5. Books without pictures

6. People who can spell

7. People of other races who don't grovel before Hair Furor

8. Women who don't want to be grabbed by the pussy

[BootmanLA]

I think it's also important to point out: Those of us who loathe Trump aren't "angry" or "bitter" and we're not hung up on the fact that Hillary Clinton lost when she was supposed to lose, yada yada yada all the delusions that Trumpanzees tell themselves to make themselves feel better than the loathsome, bottom-feeding wretches that they are.

What we are is determined. Trumpanzees can whistle past the graveyard all they want, thinking that somehow Trump's going to win this re-election bid because there's some secret number of people out there supporting him. We're working night and day to make sure that doesn't happen. He was so convinced that the growing economy he inherited (just like the fortune he inherited from his daddy, who was actually a real businessman and not a con artist) would help cover up the fact that he'd done absolutely nothing for four years except play golf at his failing golf clubs and leech money off the GOP and taxpayers into his businesses. Ah, the best-laid plans.... a pandemic hits, and of course NONE of the usual bullshit denial/distraction/coverup tricks he relied on as a private sector con artist would work against a virus that didn't care how many times you declared it was soon going to be gone.

And then an American police officer murders a detained suspect in cold blood, on video, and suddenly a big chunk of suburbanites go "Holy shit! They've been saying that about the cops for years, and it's true!" And naturally Trump, with all the finesse and sensitivity you'd expect a clod of his demented, emotionally stunted upbringing, decides what America really wants is a crackdown by anonymous federal goons, tear-gassing and rubber-bulleting peaceful protesters. And he's shocked - terrified! that it's not working. And he's left to try to attack the mental competence of his opponent - a man who can actually write a speech and read it without meandering into a thousand "I'm so mistreated" grievances - by BRAGGING that he passed a test designed to detect the onset of dementia.

"Person - Woman - Man - Camera - TV"

That sums up Trump's entire skill set in one glorious, brief phrase. I remember what it was like to have a president who could have bragged (but didn't) that he'd won a Nobel Prize. I look at other countries like Germany who have leaders with doctorates in the sciences. And we have an obese sociopath who's proud he can remember five words in a row.

[Guest MixedNutts]

I like DT because he cares about the state of this country, and has the balls to stand up to other countries that don't have our best interest at heart.  As a patriot that is important to me.  I also like that he doesn't care who dislikes him.  

[dirtyarizona]

Poor sad communists & socialists & "progressives" cannot or will not see that the tide of history is against them.  I've never seen a bunch of people so hysterically angry in my life!  The Democrat Party is hemorrhaging members month by month by month.  You'd have to be crazy to vote for those clowns who are still promoting the dead old ideology  of "socialism" which has never worked ONCE in the history of the world.

I think most of these radical crazy "Leftists" are probably seriously in need of alot more sex & alot more affection, that might calm down most of their frantic hysteria!

[timfreo]

Trump is a great man. The only people who don't like him are far left wing socialists. Trump has made America great again. Turned a basket case economy around. 

[BootmanLA]

10 hours ago, timfreo said:

Trump is a great man. The only people who don't like him are far left wing socialists. Trump has made America great again. Turned a basket case economy around. 

Now I understand how you could classify PrEP as a chemical condom. Words and their meanings are clearly not your strong suit.

Employment? In January 2017, Trump inherited an unemployment rate of 4.7%, which his predecessor had achieved inheriting a rate of 7.6%. And given that unemployment numbers are a lagging indicator - what happens today affects the unemployment rate three to six months from now - it's not surprising that unemployment continued to rise in Obama's first months, given that he inherited a crashing economy. The rate reached 10% at the depth of the Bush recession, which means Obama brought down the rate from 10% to 4.1%, or almost 6% of the total labor force.

Trump inherited that 4.7% rate and got it as low as... let's look. 4.1% in January 2018, a year into his term. It was at 4.0 in January 2019. In January 2020, it was down to 3.6%. 

In other words, the improved trajectory it was already on continued, but slowed down. So much for "basket case" or "turning around".

 And now, thanks to mismanagement of the coronavirus response, what's our unemployment rate running these days? In May, it was 13% officially with a footnote that it was probably more like 16%, but a classification error had spoiled the numbers. In June, it fell to 11%. With stimulus-related money ending, look for that to spike back up.

Budget deficit? Obama brought the annual deficit down from a Bush recession peak of nearly 1.5 TRILLION dollars, down to below $500 billion late in Obama's term. Thanks to Trump's marvelous economic skills, including a massive tax cut in the middle of a otherwise booming (inherited economy), his pre-Covid budget deficit was back up to nearly a billion dollars. And now, with Covid, the deficit's in the several trillion dollar range. In fact, Trump's added almost as much, or more, to the national debt in his less than four year term than Obama did in eight - and Obama really DID inherit a basket case economy, unlike Trump.

As for making America great - what countries think America is great any more? Not our allies. Our adversaries gloat over what a moron he is and how easy it is to get whatever they want from him, just by kissing his ass. Name one ally that's willing to go on the record and say that Trump has strengthened the bonds between America and that country. I'll wait. Hint: Yours is definitely not one of them.

[BootmanLA]

11 hours ago, dirtyarizona said:

Poor sad communists & socialists & "progressives" cannot or will not see that the tide of history is against them.  I've never seen a bunch of people so hysterically angry in my life!  The Democrat Party is hemorrhaging members month by month by month.  You'd have to be crazy to vote for those clowns who are still promoting the dead old ideology  of "socialism" which has never worked ONCE in the history of the world.

I think most of these radical crazy "Leftists" are probably seriously in need of alot more sex & alot more affection, that might calm down most of their frantic hysteria!

I see picture-book-boy is blathering again. 

[BootmanLA]

13 hours ago, MixedNutts said:

I like DT because he cares about the state of this country, and has the balls to stand up to other countries that don't have our best interest at heart.  As a patriot that is important to me.  I also like that he doesn't care who dislikes him.  

Yeah, he's certainly stood up to Russia (not). He's certainly stood up to North Korea (if "standing up" means 'we fell in love'). 

As for not caring who dislikes him..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry, lost my breath for a second.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Donald Trump's entire life has been about trying to get the approval of his betters. He had a chip on his shoulder being from the working-class borough of Queens and basically being one step above a slum lord. Knowing that the rich of Manhattan looked down on people like his family, no matter how many millions of dollars they might make screwing working class tenants, Trump set out to get recognized and approved by the people who matter (at least who matter in his world). And it still burns him mightily that he's never gotten the respect of old money New York. Now, you can quibble how much it's actually worth to be liked by such people; you'd be perfectly right to think it's silly to be concerned about that. But the point is, it matters to TRUMP. He so desperately wants to be part of the A-list and yet knows, deep down, he's nothing but D-list material no matter how much tax fraud he commits to prop up his bankrupt enterprises.

Who else would make FAKE covers for Time Magazine with his own picture on them, touting stories that were never written? Who else would spend tens of thousands of dollars earmarked for charity to buy shitty portraits of himself to hang up in his golf courses? Who else would gold-plate the toilets in his penthouse just so he could show them off to visitors?  Who else would keep trading in wives for newer models in order that people would think he's still a playboy stud at heart?

Why do you think he's so desperate to get back to rallies where people throng into arenas to chant his name? Because he's an egotistical blowhard who craves adoration and approval, which has also (not coincidentally) made him an easy mark for every two-bit dictator like Putin, Kim Jong-Un, Erdogan, Abdel Fatah el-Sisi, Bolsonaro, Duterte, Xi Jinping (until coronavirus that is).... they all know that all they have to do is praise him and compliment him on some fake accomplishment, and he's putty in their hands.

[timfreo]

Trump is a God who has saved America. 🙏🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Four More Years!!!!!

[BootmanLA]

38 minutes ago, timfreo said:

Trump is a God who has saved America. 🙏🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Four More Years!!!!!

Tell ya what. Take him to Australia and you can have him for as many more years as you choose. Because Americans clearly do not want him. 

[timfreo]

God Bless The Don. Lock her up and watch Sleepy Joe keel over in his sleep. Keep up the federal intervention in the lawless cities Mr President! Defend the Flag and those great servicemen & women who've died for it!  Socialism should never take over America nor the Free World. The World looks to you for inspiration and leadership!! 🙏🙏🙏

[tj87]

As a Brit, I love America, I spent a lot of my childhood there, I have friends over there and I want to return as soon as possible - and @dirtyarizona you and I share a loathing for extreme lefties. I have nothing against Capitalism - I think it's vital for societies to thrive, though the most successful countries on the planet mix a little socialism in with their capitalism - the fire department is socialist; the army, police, corporate bailouts are all socialist policies championed by republicans.

(And here in the UK our uber-socialist NHS (because it's 100% centralised) has been able carry out some exceptional research on Coronavirus treatments that caused leading US economist (and right-wing Libertarian) Tyler Cowen to write in Bloomberg over the weekend "The Brits are on course to save the world.") #humblebrag

But ideologues like Mitch McConnell (and plenty of democrats too) and 24hour for-profit cable news with endless pundits paid to speculate for hours on end and fight for "their side" fuelled by I'm sorry... the disaster that is your current President (who, lets face it is neither republican nor democrat)...Has turned America into a "sh•thole country"...

And any American's reading this, my friends, you are the victims. Plenty of you will be doing fine, but as a society generally, it seems from over here like you are fast running out of the sticking plaster that's holding your country together.

In much of the rest of the Western world we're suffering plenty, from bad politicians and corruption and tribalism and Coronavirus, but we're not leading the world in fatalities, or protesting in the streets and getting run down by Jeeps, our police don't execute victims curb side, or fire tear gas to stage photo-ops; or arrest reporters in Minneapolis - In that video: The City of Lakes looked like downtown Baghdad c.2003.

I'm thankful that state and local governments can act as a buffer to a lot of what's being done (or more importantly what's not being done) in Washington - unlike in Russia where Putin is largely free to do what he wants and the Russian people suffer enormously - but regardless of your politics, in just under four years America has gone from leading the world, inspiring nations and finding compromise to being... this huge dumpster fire on the far side of the Atlantic that we look at with pity and to feel better about ourselves.

What do I like about Trump? In less than 100 days he might (hopefully) be fired, though I do wish Biden were a decade younger.
What do I dislike about Trump? 

If a supporter of the current President said: I like that he pretends to be religious to court religious voters. Or I like that he got rid of environmental and financial regulations, so it's easier for my business make money - fine. I don't like those things, but at least it acknowledges reality.

But the biggest thing that irks me is that his most ardent supporters like him for reasons that don't make sense "I like that he doesn't care who dislikes him." - when the only thing he truly cares about is his image (and it's got nothing to do with policy). Or "I like how he turned the economy around" when at best, he fostered an already strong economy and made it a little stronger, while everything else fell apart...

Anyway, peace and love to all my American brothers on the other side of the pond. I hope to be back there soon to take your big US cocks.

[nullebor]

I am compelled to agree with tj87, from Europe we look aghast at the apparent disintegration of a once great nation. The sad fact is that Trump has made the US and its people into either a laughing stock or a nation to be pitied (depending on your attitude). He seems intent on fomenting division and hatred to bolster his own shakey political position. He displays lamentable ignorance and is extremely "economic with the truth" when it suits him. He certainly inspires amazement - that a supposedly educated and civil society could voluntarily chose to be led by such a character.

[BootmanLA]

7 hours ago, nullebor said:

I am compelled to agree with tj87, from Europe we look aghast at the apparent disintegration of a once great nation. The sad fact is that Trump has made the US and its people into either a laughing stock or a nation to be pitied (depending on your attitude). He seems intent on fomenting division and hatred to bolster his own shakey political position. He displays lamentable ignorance and is extremely "economic with the truth" when it suits him. He certainly inspires amazement - that a supposedly educated and civil society could voluntarily chose to be led by such a character.

It's amazing that when Hillary Clinton correctly described half of Trump's supporters as a "basket of deplorables" his people lost their shit - how DARE some uppity woman call fellow Americans deplorable? - but now his asshole supporters think nothing of calling patriotic Americans who oppose him traitors.

They screamed bloody murder when Bill Clinton spent a few minutes on a plane with Loretta Lynch talking about family things, but they're blissfully silent when Bill Barr admits under oath today that yes, he's spoken with President Trump about inner workings of the DOJ including open cases involving his friends.

They threw a fit when Barack Obama wore a tan suit to some governmental function - how dare he violate such a long-established norm as a dark suit for men! - but turn a blind eye to the president's personal businesses raking in tens of millions of dollars from (a) government contracts, (b) GOP political campaigns, (c) "Independent" SuperPacs tied to GOP figures and (d) foreign governments. They brag that he donates his salary while ignoring that a hundred times that amount is pouring into Trump coffers that wouldn't be there if he weren't president.

Deplorable is right. A huge chunk of his supporters are deplorable, white-supremacist assholes who are fed up with the fact that decent people look down on them as the scum of the earth that they are, and so they cheer on a criminal almost solely because - as one of those deplorables inadvertently admitted here - he hates the same people they do. What a wonderful qualification for a president of a large, important, diverse nation like ours - he has to hate the majority of its citizens. 

[tj87]

36 minutes ago, BootmanLA said:

It's amazing that when Hillary Clinton correctly described half of Trump's supporters as a "basket of deplorables" his people lost their shit...

The trouble is, as Hillary demonstrated - you need to win hearts and minds - and insulting swathes of voters is the wrong way to go about doing that.

A lot of people voted for Trump, or didn't vote at all...for all kinds of reasons. 

Americans can avoid it happening again, but only by being constructive, dropping the hatred spewed at a lot of people who already feel looked down on and left behind - and fixing a broken system that encourages tribalism, where lawmakers have a vested interest in playing politics rather than fixing problems.