Republicans May Get Gay Marriage Repealed

[PozBearWI]

Indeed there is a global trajectory towards authoritarianism.  Glad to be in life's fourth quarter.

 

[brnbk]

 

 

The process has already begun, in Idaho, two days ago. 

Republican Rep. Heather Scott has proposed a resolution to reject the Supreme Court same-sex marriage decision, and the proposal was moved forward by the Committee and will come up for a public hearing. If passed by the Idaho legislature it goes to the Supreme Court, where it doe not have any legal weight but does carry symbolic weight. 

 

[think before following links] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/idaho-lawmakers-move-to-restore-natural-definition-of-marriage-bring-back-same-sex-ban/ar-AA1x7Nio

[BlueSaphir]

On 1/9/2025 at 3:31 PM, brnbk said:

 

 

The process has already begun, in Idaho, two days ago. 

Republican Rep. Heather Scott has proposed a resolution to reject the Supreme Court same-sex marriage decision, and the proposal was moved forward by the Committee and will come up for a public hearing. If passed by the Idaho legislature it goes to the Supreme Court, where it doe not have any legal weight but does carry symbolic weight. 

 

[think before following links] [think before following links] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/idaho-lawmakers-move-to-restore-natural-definition-of-marriage-bring-back-same-sex-ban/ar-AA1x7Nio

I hope this bill dies out. 

[stillbreedin]

i think the court will over rule the obergfeld (sp?) decision and say that it is a matter for each state to determine. what they cannot do is invalidate existing gay marriages.

[Erik62]

1 hour ago, stillbreedin said:

i think the court will over rule the obergfeld (sp?) decision and say that it is a matter for each state to determine. what they cannot do is invalidate existing gay marriages.

On that basis how is a married / now unmarried couple be in any reasonably tenable situation for a normal life. Their marriage status may remain but, what about next-of-kin, superannuation, life insurance, communal property, parental status & the children that must grow with the knowledge that they & all other EXISTING Gay marriages / families are so despised & hated by their community that they were made illegal. 

What % of Idaho is Gay or strongly supportive. Can Idaho remain economically viable if a large number of these people move out of the State. 

[PozBearWI]

Our current trajectory has me agreeing that SCOTUS will undo Gay Marriage.  And our legislators have no will to create legislation, or better yet, a constitutional amendment to encode what I believe should be fundamental human rights, who we marry, domain over our own bodies...  

Disruption is going to happen, it is already underway.  Some of us will participate in setting direction, some of us will watch from the sidelines.  

[hntnhole]

12 hours ago, Erik62 said:

Can Idaho remain economically viable

You always cut right to the chase, don'tcha?  

I have no data on this issue, but I do have a relative that lived there, and I was out West visiting and included Idaho.  Aside from "natural beauty", topography, all of that (which is definitely the case), there's precious little there that would tempt gay folks to relocate there, and plenty of reasons to ditch when/if they can. 

To the point, I don't believe there's all much economic viability there in the first place.

[Erik62]

2 hours ago, hntnhole said:

You always cut right to the chase, don'tcha?  

I have no data on this issue, but I do have a relative that lived there, and I was out West visiting and included Idaho.  Aside from "natural beauty", topography, all of that (which is definitely the case), there's precious little there that would tempt gay folks to relocate there, and plenty of reasons to ditch when/if they can. 

To the point, I don't believe there's all much economic viability there in the first place.

Sorry (LoL), if I like getting to the point 😂😜. I don't open my legs, just to exercise them 🤣. 

I am a person who tries to look past, the immediate action. People saw voting for Trump was an immediate solution BUT, very few have looked 50yrs ahead, to see what devastation his actions have wrought. 

Wouldn't say no to getting YOUR point 🍆♨️. 

[hntnhole]

21 hours ago, Erik62 said:

Wouldn't say no to getting YOUR point 🍆♨️

We're probably buddies that just haven't fucked yet ..... 

[Malicon]

By the way... further development under way:
[think before following links] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republican-lawmakers-increase-calls-gay-marriage-scotus-ruling/story?id=119395181

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In Michigan, state Rep. Josh Schriver unveiled his own anti-gay marriage resolution on Feb. 25, arguing that restrictions on gay marriage are important to “preserve and grow our human race,” he said at a press conference announcing the resolution.

“Michigan Christians follow Christ's definition of marriage as a covenant between a man and a woman, an institution established to glorify God and produce children,” said Schriver.

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The handful of resolutions come after Associate Justice Clarence Thomas expressed interest in revisiting the Obergefell decision in his concurring opinion on the Supreme Court's landmark 2022 decision on the Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization case that overturned the federal right to abortion.

He wrote: "In future cases, we should reconsider all of this court’s substantive due process precedents,” such as Obergefell. “Because any substantive due process decision is 'demonstrably erroneous,' we have a duty to 'correct the error' established in those precedents,” Thomas said.

Thomas had issued a dissenting opinion in 2015 against same-sex marriage equality.

More than two dozen states have some kind of restriction on same-sex marriage that could be triggered if the Supreme Court one day overturns its 2015 decision, according to legislative tracking group Movement Advancement Project. This is because marriage equality has not yet been codified and enshrined into law nationwide.

However, the Respect for Marriage Law signed by former President Joe Biden in 2022 guarantees the federal recognition of same-sex and interracial marriages in the event of an overturned Supreme Court decision.

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So, I have serious doubts that these red line will hold as Trump obviously intends to ignore legislation and courts...

 

[ellentonboy]

Does anyone know what will become of all the marriages that occurred once gay marriage was legalized?  Will they be annulled?  I thought that the decision to legalize gay marriage came from a decision that also legalized inter-racial marriages?  Is that's  right, what does that do to the status of say Clarence Thomas and his wife?  Would all those marriages be ruled invalid? I am just curious how they are going to get around that previous decision.......

[Erik62]

7 hours ago, ellentonboy said:

Does anyone know what will become of all the marriages that occurred once gay marriage was legalized?  Will they be annulled?  I thought that the decision to legalize gay marriage came from a decision that also legalized inter-racial marriages?  Is that's  right, what does that do to the status of say Clarence Thomas and his wife?  Would all those marriages be ruled invalid? I am just curious how they are going to get around that previous decision.......

Great question & will follow this topic with anticipation 👍. Can't wait to see ideas / theories from you guys most effected in the US. 

[BergenGuy]

12 hours ago, ellentonboy said:

Is that's  right, what does that do to the status of say Clarence Thomas and his wife?

Nothing.  As far as I know, all states have repealed laws against interracial marriage.  So, the court would feel safe in overturning Loving v. Virginia secure in the knowledge that it wouldn't affect interracial marriages (existing or future) anywhere.

We should watch these attempts to overturn marriage equality with concern, but not panic about them.  Some state legislator in one state or another is always trying to do hateful things.  It doesn't mean that the legislation will pass, or that the courts would allow it to take effect.  The fact that Schriver is spouting religious rhetoric is hurting his own case.  

[hntnhole]

On 2/19/2025 at 1:02 AM, stillbreedin said:

obergfeld (sp?)

So close your meaning is unmistakable .... 

Since you asked (the ?), it's Obergefell v. Hodges - the landmark decision of 2015 in the SCOTUS that officially extended the rights everyone else on earth has, to us gay men and women.  Thanks.

[PozBearWI]

Not every culture on earth allows same gender marriage...