Republicans May Get Gay Marriage Repealed

[hntnhole]

On 3/20/2025 at 5:53 AM, Malicon said:

“Michigan Christians follow Christ's definition of marriage as a covenant between a man and a woman, an institution established to glorify God and produce children,” said Schriver.

That sentence alone reduces the value of "conservative" intellectual prowess to virtually nil.  As I recall, Someone a couple of millennia ago never did get around to marrying.  But then, untold magical powers have since been attributed to that most decent man/teacher/human being, so we'll probably never know for sure.  Shoving bullshit into that man's mouth has been going on in the ensuing millennia, and we're all the worse for it.  

On 3/20/2025 at 5:53 AM, Malicon said:

Thomas had issued a dissenting opinion in 2015 against same-sex marriage equality.

It's a wonder that he is intellectually unable to recognize the similarities between gay folks marrying, when only a handful of years past, he would have been legally constrained from marrying that fat pale woman he calls his "best friend" - rather than "wife".  What a total pussy.  

[NWUSHorny]

@hntnhole as someone who leans pretty far libertarian, I have always thought that we need to separate government recognized domestic partnerships from religiously recognized marriages. I know that will offend some devoutly religious gays, but even among mixed sex couples there are a lot of domestic partnerships that really should not meet the religious definition of marriage, yet are highly desirable for legal and financial reasons. If we had separated the religious concept of marriage from the legal concept of a domestic partnership, it would then be up to the religious institutions whether or not they should be recognized as a marriage or not. My opinion is that would have simplified the debate and would lead to a better overall solution for our entire society. The US Constitution already establishes the separation between church and state, to the dismay of believers in government theocracy of all religions.

[hntnhole]

26 minutes ago, PozBearWI said:

Not every culture on earth allows same gender marriage...

Did someone say that?  Sounds like it might be a simile .... 

[hntnhole]

4 minutes ago, NWUSHorny said:

we need to separate government recognized domestic partnerships from religiously recognized marriages

now THAT'S what I would call PROGRESSIVE. 

When are you running for office, and can someone.not.in.your.district.still.vote.for  you ??????????  

[NWUSHorny]

6 minutes ago, hntnhole said:

now THAT'S what I would call PROGRESSIVE. 

Nope, true lowercase l libertarian, but not an anarchist, so I recognize we need limited government for a few necessary services, and to keep, "as long as you aren't harming others" side of the libertarian creed.

Edited March 21 by NWUSHorny

[PozBearWI]

The reason to keep marriage equality is that it bestows on the partnership several rights that have nothing to do with children to the married partners.  Domestic Partnerships don't work because they don't come with the same rights.

[BergenGuy]

6 hours ago, NWUSHorny said:

If we had separated the religious concept of marriage from the legal concept of a domestic partnership, it would then be up to the religious institutions whether or not they should be recognized as a marriage or not.

We need to do away with the idea that a member of the clergy can legally marry a couple.  Every marriage should be registered with civil authorities and ONLY those marriages are legally valid.  If the couple wants to go on to have a religious ceremony, they can do so but it would have no force of law.  The civil recognition would need to be called "marriage" to avoid problems when couples visit other countries that don't recognize "civil unions."  Religions can call the ceremony whatever they want.

[Erik62]

16 hours ago, hntnhole said:

That sentence alone reduces the value of "conservative" intellectual prowess to virtually nil.  As I recall, Someone a couple of millennia ago never did get around to marrying.  But then, untold magical powers have since been attributed to that most decent man/teacher/human being, so we'll probably never know for sure.  Shoving bullshit into that man's mouth has been going on in the ensuing millennia, and we're all the worse for it.  

It's a wonder that he is intellectually unable to recognize the similarities between gay folks marrying, when only a handful of years past, he would have been legally constrained from marrying that fat pale woman he calls his "best friend" - rather than "wife".  What a total pussy.  

As an inherently Christian believer of the "HOLY TRINITY" but, NOT a Sunday Christian, I will only say that you'll need to pound me into believing otherwise 🍆. 

Maybe just pound me & I'll still believe🤣🤣🤣

[onlyraw]

There are several countries (I think Germany is one) where all the marriages are civil ceremonies at city hall … and then if you also want a religious wedding afterwards you can ….  That would certainly be a solution 

It makes me mad when various religious institutions get all twisted about gay marriage…. The solution is really easy… don’t perform them in your church 

Just like the Catholic Church doesn’t “marry” a couple if one of them has been divorced… 

[nanana]

Why does the state need to validate something that should be between two adults? I say Get the state out of marriage altogether, including all of the tax issues. 

[hntnhole]

7 hours ago, Erik62 said:

Maybe just pound me & I'll still believe

Sounds about right to me too ... 

I never ask a guy about his religious beliefs because I don't care what they are/aren't.  It's none of my business what anyone else's metaphysical beliefs are - if any - and in the fuckjoints, I couldn't possibly care less.  Come to think of it, in any other area of concern either.  For that matter, I know I've fucked pastors (Lutheran) on the dl before, and probably every other denomination too.  Doesn't make any difference to me - as long as they keep the metaphysical part to themselves.  

So everybody ... lets just ignore the benighted parts and fuck ... 

[Erik62]

9 hours ago, onlyraw said:

There are several countries (I think Germany is one) where all the marriages are civil ceremonies at city hall … and then if you also want a religious wedding afterwards you can ….  That would certainly be a solution 

It makes me mad when various religious institutions get all twisted about gay marriage…. The solution is really easy… don’t perform them in your church 

Just like the Catholic Church doesn’t “marry” a couple if one of them has been divorced… 

That is ONE issue🤔!!! There are people who are not happy with such practicalities. Those believe EVERY church should be forced to accept gay marriage. Like all radical groups simple solutions are not acceptable. 

[BergenGuy]

14 hours ago, Erik62 said:

There are people who are not happy with such practicalities. Those believe EVERY church should be forced to accept gay marriage.

I've never met anyone who feels that the law should force churches to recognize same-sex marriage, anymore than they are required to recognize interracial marriages or any other marriage.  There are people within the religion to advocate strongly for recognition of same-sex marriages by that faith, but that's an internal matter.  That religion either works it out, or it splits apart (as in the case of US Methodists).  

[Erik62]

3 hours ago, BergenGuy said:

I've never met anyone who feels that the law should force churches to recognize same-sex marriage, anymore than they are required to recognize interracial marriages or any other marriage.  There are people within the religion to advocate strongly for recognition of same-sex marriages by that faith, but that's an internal matter.  That religion either works it out, or it splits apart (as in the case of US Methodists).  

You must be very cloistered if this is the case. There are those in the LGB++++ community & many other groups who will take a church (religion), schools, workplaces, organisations etc into expensive & long drawn court actions in order to achieve their desires. Instead of just going to a place where they are able to achieve their purposes. 

[BergenGuy]

5 hours ago, Erik62 said:

There are those in the LGB++++ community & many other groups who will take a church (religion), schools, workplaces, organisations etc into expensive & long drawn court actions in order to achieve their desires.

Do you have a link where a church has been taken to court to force it to recognize same-sex marriages?  I don't mean a suit against a church in its capacity as an employer, but as a religion?  No lawsuit trying to set theological policy for a church would be successful in the US.  Workplaces and other business organizations are subject to anti-discrimination laws.