X Tube/PornHub Dying?

[Pornlover]

I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand I understand the tough position these platforms are in and how an open platform for so long has lead to trouble. On the other hand it's ridiculous to punish everyone for the actions of a few. Both XTube and Pornhub are guilty of putting profits ahead of investment. This situation could have easily been avoided with a more robust back-end on both sites. Checks and balances as well as a robust moderation, filtering, and ID system should have been in place much sooner.

[Scottop]

Pornhub has killed itself. They have removed all the videos I have uploaded without warning and most of my favourites have gone. There was some great stuff there. I don't want only professional videos, I prefer amateur ones, more natural. Hopefully another company will come in an fill the gap. I am furious.

[ConversionPerv]

24 minutes ago, Scottop said:

Pornhub has killed itself. They have removed all the videos I have uploaded without warning and most of my favourites have gone. There was some great stuff there. I don't want only professional videos, I prefer amateur ones, more natural. Hopefully another company will come in an fill the gap. I am furious.

Yeah, it's decimated. Hundreds and hundreds of videos in my playlists are gone, wiped out. Really sad.

[Guest]

I'm furious. My niche is anon porn and it's been pretty much wiped out. The only videos left are those stupid badly staged ones by users who only care about getting new onlyfans subscribers. 

 

Not only I'm stuck home in quarantine in a country with a destroyed economy, not only nobody is allowed to fuck anymore, now the porn is gone too. 2020 sucks.

[backtails]

It's not about removing illegal content. That's just a tactic. The objective was to destroy the platform, because it was a big bad porn machine that was destroying society and making money in the process.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, backtails said:

It's not about removing illegal content. That's just a tactic. The objective was to destroy the platform, because it was a big bad porn machine that was destroying society and making money in the process.

I L🤍ve paranoia in the morning.

[backtails]

2 minutes ago, BareLover073 said:

I L🤍ve paranoia in the morning.

Heh. I didn't want to say a lot about it. I still don't, especially if it seems paranoid to suggest that social conservatism is a factor – that is, that the objective is porn in general, not just illegal porn (which is truly evil). There are people who don't see much of a difference, and who think porn makes people gay.

[Guest]

PH was on the news the other day. There evidently is a ton of backlash and some lawsuits about rape videos and under age males and females.

[ErosWired]

The problem at the center of sites like Pornhub is that their trade is vice... and society defines vice in very imprecise and capricious terms. A quick search finds these definitions:

Vice - noun

1. an immoral or evil habit or practice.

2. immoral conduct; depraved or degrading behavior; wickedness.

3. sexual immorality, especially prostitution.

4. criminal activity involving prostitution, pornography, or drugs.

4. a particular form of depravity.

5. a fault, defect, or shortcoming; a bad habit.

This range runs the gamut from nose-picking to child prostitution, so obviously not all vice is the same in terms of its potential impact on people. The trouble is, the core of all vice is a human willingness, at some point, at some level, for some rationale, to disregard what are commonly understood to be virtuous decisions in favor of vices. A service like Pornhub establishes a place that creates an atmosphere of tolerance for vice that cannot easily regulate itself because vice is a nebulous concept and one man’s vice may be another man’s desire.

By offering a place for men to openly trade in vice, Pornhub created a vector for trade in vice of varied descriptions, all of it very difficult to regulate because the product at the core of their operation, vice, is so ill-defined and subject to something even more subjective: morality.

It’s not hard to single out child rape and human trafficking as intolerable vices - their harms are real, obvious and egregious. What PornHub, and similar sites, now face however, is not just a drive to rid society of those evil vices, but of the systems that made it possible for them to exist at all.  Looked at broadly, this is the same as the reaction that gave rise to FOSTA/SESTA, with the same result: The way to extinguish the immoral heathens is to raze their villages to the ground so they have nowhere left to go. This is unlikely to stop the child rape and human trafficking, but at least the heathens will be good and quit fapping off to porn.

Of course they will.

[Klystraboi]

Pornhub went from 13,000,000+ videos to just under 3,000,000. 

[Guest hungandmean]

On 12/15/2020 at 11:32 PM, BareLover073 said:

I L🤍ve paranoia in the morning.

No tinfoil hats here - but I saw watchdog statistics and there were something like 1.3 million videos posted to PornHub that contained human trafficking, rape, etc, and Facebook had like 81 million in the same period. Yet Visa/Mastercard only severed their relationship with Pornhub even though PH actually took action on the videos where as Facebook gave a giant shrug. 

FOSTA-SESTA laws are not new. These laws are absolutely meant to criminalize and marginalize sex work, and queer communities - all wrapped up in a pretty ribbon that says they're protecting the vulnerable when the reality is that pushing sex work into darker spaces makes sex workers more vulnerable. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, hungandmean said:

No tinfoil hats here - but I saw watchdog statistics and there were something like 1.3 million videos posted to PornHub that contained human trafficking, rape, etc, and Facebook had like 81 million in the same period. Yet Visa/Mastercard only severed their relationship with Pornhub even though PH actually took action on the videos where as Facebook gave a giant shrug. 

FOSTA-SESTA laws are not new. These laws are absolutely meant to criminalize and marginalize sex work, and queer communities - all wrapped up in a pretty ribbon that says they're protecting the vulnerable when the reality is that pushing sex work into darker spaces makes sex workers more vulnerable. 

Thanks. I read that too; And I stand corrected. My bad.

This site's boss summed it up very nicely. 
 

[Guest]

Think this is relevant in this discussion too. 

[BootmanLA]

17 hours ago, hungandmean said:

No tinfoil hats here - but I saw watchdog statistics and there were something like 1.3 million videos posted to PornHub that contained human trafficking, rape, etc, and Facebook had like 81 million in the same period. Yet Visa/Mastercard only severed their relationship with Pornhub even though PH actually took action on the videos where as Facebook gave a giant shrug. 

FOSTA-SESTA laws are not new. These laws are absolutely meant to criminalize and marginalize sex work, and queer communities - all wrapped up in a pretty ribbon that says they're protecting the vulnerable when the reality is that pushing sex work into darker spaces makes sex workers more vulnerable. 

The fundamental difference is that PH made money selling memberships - which had to be paid for by credit card. Since FB is basically free to the user and paid for almost entirely via advertising, FB doesn't have to worry about whether Visa/MC is going to pull their merchant agreements, as it did with PornHub. That doesn't mean the FB or Twitter or other sites don't have a much bigger problem than the specifically porn sites, but it does mean that not all tools that can go after the latter will work on the former.

[latinocumwhore1]

On top of disappearing videos the download option on PH is gone, as it is on XHamster now too