How common is infection with multiple strains, co-infection, etc.?

[Guest]

For those who are here on BZ, and HIV+ not on meds but having raw/BB sex with other poz men, women, or whoever, Do you get what is called co-infection, super-infection, or infection with multiple strains or types of HIV, or have you ever been re-infected with the original strain of HIV that you have? How common is infection with other strains of HIV?

Or if you are poz and not on meds did you ever get CMV or Cytomegalovirus? A friend that is poz had it but this was before he was diagnosed, confirmed HIV+ and put on meds which he takes daily, and his health has greatly improved but he stopped smoking tobacco and ALL drug use except for THC/Marijuana as needed for nausea and instead of taking opiates for pain.

From what friends who are POZ and who have been from the late 1970s or early 1980s or even early 2000s before pep and prep were easily available tell me, it is best to focus on treatment, getting on meds, taking them daily or basically daily, staying on meds, getting blood tests done, seeing doctors, etc. My poz friends only have sex with other men or people who are poz as well, and condoms and safer sex practises as my HIV+ friends-I am HIV- and use condoms-said that raw/BB sex with someone else that is also poz makes both people's meds stop working as effectively, and there is the real risk of getting or transmitting other HIV strains.

[LuvRawNkc]

Well, I AM on meds currently, but as I have stated before I have been on and off of them for years at a time for various reasons. Mostly change of job/insurance or depression. 

     After a divorce and change of jobs I was pozzed and became quite depressed. The sex was LIKE a drug itself, although I did get into smoking weed and doing coke with a female friend on weekends, and chem sex with guys as well. A typical Friday nightbwoukd would be drinking at a bar with a female friend, go home to her place, do a few lines, smoke a few bowls of Marijuana maybe a joint, and crash at her place. Then Saturday spent all day looking for cock, and there was one guy in particular that liked to do booty bumps and I came to love that. I also had one guy slam me in a sling and I spent all night in that sping getting fucked bareback by guys, taking load after load. 

   I also started doing some prostitution and ended up getting Hepatits B and CMV from that. Sucked because I might get paid $100 to get fucked and I'd spend at least half that on meds a month later on, and now have diseases for life from it. Do I regret it? No. I try not to live life with regrets. I regret the feelings of depression at the time that led me to not care about my own life. The sex on meth was absolutely insanely wonderful. I haven't done it for YEARS but anyone that's ever done it and had that feeling and doesn't STILL want it, is lying to you. I wanted NOTHING but cock in my ass fucking me when I was high on meth. I wasn't an addict, only did it on occasional weekends. But still. It's dangerous. 

    As far as I know I only have one strain of HIV. But who knows. I've certainly had many, MANY poz loads, even after becoming poz and even when not on meds I was still taking poz loads. So, who knows. It'd be interesting to find out if I have more than one strain. Probably, but at this point, who really cares. I have HIV, got it from sex, from Poz cumloads, and from a guy with a high enough viral load, it only took 3 loads in one night and I was Poz. So, any other strains from someone with high enough viral loads, and I'm sure I got it. The Hepatitis B I'm pretty sure was from a Pakistani guy I met at a casino that paid me $100 to let him take me to a cheap motel room and fuck me. ONE cumload of his HepB+ cum and I had it. Crazy. That shits highly infectious. 

[viking8x6]

6 minutes ago, LuvRawNkc said:

Hepatits B and CMV from that...and now have diseases for life from it.

Neither Hep B nor CMV necessarily causes chronic disease. CMV remains in the body but normally does not cause any disease after the initial illness - nearly half of Americans have the virus. Hepatitis B is often cleared from the body after an acute illness, though it can remain present as a chronic illness. It's important to note that the presence of antibodies to the virus does not necessarily mean that you have a chronic infection.

[LuvRawNkc]

2 minutes ago, viking8x6 said:

Neither Hep B nor CMV necessarily causes chronic disease. CMV remains in the body but normally does not cause any disease after the initial illness - nearly half of Americans have the virus. Hepatitis B is often cleared from the body after an acute illness, though it can remain present as a chronic illness. It's important to note that the presence of antibodies to the virus does not necessarily mean that you have a chronic infection.

Yes, that may be, but understand, I HAVE chronic Hepatits B. My body did NOt clear it after initial infection, I have had it for YEARS. Each time tested I still have the virus. So I DO, in fact, have chronic Hepatits B. As well as HIV. The CMV  not sure but have tested positive for it before. I really don't care, mostly care at this point about stuff I would need to take antibiotics to clear like chlamydia and syphilis. 

[gimpsub69]

On 8/1/2021 at 2:29 AM, TotalTop said:

For those who are here on BZ, and HIV+ not on meds but having raw/BB sex with other poz men, women, or whoever, Do you get what is called co-infection, super-infection, or infection with multiple strains or types of HIV, or have you ever been re-infected with the original strain of HIV that you have? How common is infection with other strains of HIV?

Or if you are poz and not on meds did you ever get CMV or Cytomegalovirus? A friend that is poz had it but this was before he was diagnosed, confirmed HIV+ and put on meds which he takes daily, and his health has greatly improved but he stopped smoking tobacco and ALL drug use except for THC/Marijuana as needed for nausea and instead of taking opiates for pain.

From what friends who are POZ and who have been from the late 1970s or early 1980s or even early 2000s before pep and prep were easily available tell me, it is best to focus on treatment, getting on meds, taking them daily or basically daily, staying on meds, getting blood tests done, seeing doctors, etc. My poz friends only have sex with other men or people who are poz as well, and condoms and safer sex practises as my HIV+ friends-I am HIV- and use condoms-said that raw/BB sex with someone else that is also poz makes both people's meds stop working as effectively, and there is the real risk of getting or transmitting other HIV strains.

I've been poz undetectable since December of 17. And have taken many loads from poz guys, even med resistance poz guys and have never tested positive except for positive undetectable. 

[gimpsub69]

8 hours ago, gimpsub69 said:

I've been poz undetectable since December of 17. And have taken many loads from poz guys, even med resistance poz guys and have never tested positive except for positive undetectable. 

I have been getting fucked raw pretty much since I was 17.. here's the stranger than fiction part. I got HIV in August of 17. I was 17 years old December 15 1997. I had almost 20 years of not getting it and to this day I've never had a STD

[Guest]

On 6/3/2023 at 5:30 PM, gimpsub69 said:

I have been getting fucked raw pretty much since I was 17.. here's the stranger than fiction part. I got HIV in August of 17. I was 17 years old December 15 1997. I had almost 20 years of not getting it and to this day I've never had a STD

Or more likely you had it all along, are you on meds?

[gimpsub69]

On 6/15/2023 at 10:51 PM, TotalTop said:

Or more likely you had it all along, are you on meds?

Yes. I got tested twice a year for 20 years. Tested positive august 22 2017 and was undetectable by December 7th of 2017 and have been ever since. My CD4 count was 1276 last month viral load was under 20

[PozSir67]

Reinfection or super-infection are thought to be very rare. It is a difficult thing to study- but what research is out there generally concludes it is possible but highly unlikely. 

[Madrid-undectable]

Hi, so I'm poz and on meds since June 2021. Didn't want get poz but I got it. I have read all the comments and just to confirm: re-infection of another HIV type is very rare? But if u caught siphilys, wouldn't that make it easier to get another type of HiV? (Getting syphilis first is how caught HIV)

[ellentonboy]

My doctor told me almost all sexually active gay men have or get Hep B, there wasn't much to be done about it.  However, I got Hep C in 2018 and that scared the hell out of me, my urine was brown, and he had me on Mavyret for twelve weeks, not the normal eight.  The medicine had no effects, when I saw the retail cost it blew my mind.  Thank God I had no copay, and the way the medication is dispensed makes it easy to remember to take.  Now every time I go to have my labs drawn he runs the Hep C numbers, so far it looks like I am undetectable.

I am glad I mentioned it to my doctor. I initially thought my urine was that color because of "enhancements" leaving my body, but after awhile  the pain was so great when I urinated I finally had to tell him.  I am glad I did, Hep C had never crossed my mind.  Using Mavyret was so convenient, easy, I'm thankful to be aline and not have to deal with it any longer.

[barefootboy]

On 12/12/2023 at 8:38 AM, ellentonboy said:

My doctor told me almost all sexually active gay men have or get Hep B, there wasn't much to be done about it.  However, I got Hep C in 2018 and that scared the hell out of me, my urine was brown, and he had me on Mavyret for twelve weeks, not the normal eight.  The medicine had no effects, when I saw the retail cost it blew my mind.  Thank God I had no copay, and the way the medication is dispensed makes it easy to remember to take.  Now every time I go to have my labs drawn he runs the Hep C numbers, so far it looks like I am undetectable.

I am glad I mentioned it to my doctor. I initially thought my urine was that color because of "enhancements" leaving my body, but after awhile  the pain was so great when I urinated I finally had to tell him.  I am glad I did, Hep C had never crossed my mind.  Using Mavyret was so convenient, easy, I'm thankful to be aline and not have to deal with it any longer.

I’m glad you were able to get it under control. Sounds scary as fcuk. 

[ellentonboy]

3 minutes ago, barefootboy said:

I’m glad you were able to get it under control. Sounds scary as fcuk. 

Thank you.  Fortunately, I have a very competent infectious disease specialist who acted quickly and had the medication to me within a few days.  Since my case was rather advanced, timing was really important.  I had to get pre-authorization due to the cost. but after the drug test came back negative (and boy did Quest Diagnostics check for everything) my insurer called me and the specialty pharmacy delivered to my home.  I could not be more thankful.  Have a great holiday guy!

[dakbst]

Hep b can cause chronic disease. While most people eliminate the virus, some dont and it can progress to cause chronic liver disease

[DallasPozzible]

I had chronic Hep B in early 90s. After about 9 months, I switched docs and he put me on Interferon (which I believe was experimental at that time). I gave myself an injection once a day for about three months and disease cleared. I also have antibodies for Hep A and B though I was never aware of active disease.