XTube closing down

[ausnude]

I just found out that XTube is closing down. They have already removed most of my pics and videos. pity, finding places on the net to show off is getting more and more difficult.

[BlackDude]

Yeah, I had quite a few videos I purchased from there before the NBA fan days. Shame they will disappear in the night

[tallslenderguy]

Fuck. i wondered why, so i googled it and got this:

"XTube, a prominent pornographic streaming platform, is shutting down as its parent company faces mounting accusations that it facilitated sex trafficking on its subsidiary sites. The platform announced this week that it was disabling video and photo uploads as it prepared to close down on Sept. 5"

The Justice Defense Fund is the force behind the XTube closure.

and is  related to what RawTop is discussing in his post here .

It's not a clear cut topic, and i do not doubt there are illegal things that happen with XTube. By the same token there are illegal things that happen in churches too, would they cry foul if a large organization wanted to close churches down because of some of the illegal activities that go on there?  i write that because i smell the religious right in this activity. Though they are getting sneaky and learning to hide who they are and couch their agenda in terms like "sexploitation," their definition of what sex should be is a lot narrower than they present to the general public. Laila Mickelwait is the Founder and CEO of the Justice Defense Fund the force behind it, which claims to be a non-religious, non partisan organization. Yet, is its head and founder being honest and open about her agenda? 

A quick google on Laila Mickelwait provided this : 

"In February 2020, the organization's Director of Abolition, Laila Mickelwait, launched a petition to shut down the adult website Pornhub. Mickelwait's #Traffickinghub campaign was co-sponsored the National Center on Sexual Exploitation, an anti-pornography organization formerly known as Morality in Media. By September, the campaign had gained over two million signatures, and on December 10, following an opinion column by New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof alleging the site was being used to share sex abuse videos,[5] Visa and Mastercard stopped allowing Pornhub to accept credit card transactions.[6] Shortly after, the Canadian Parliament began hearings to investigate the allegations against PornHub.[7]"

"The organization originally developed out of a weekly prayer group founded in 2007 by Benjamin Nolot, a filmmaker and member of the charismatic Christian International House of Prayer. Nolot is currently the CEO of the organization. Exodus Cry says it is no longer directly affiliated with the church, but that it is faith-based and does offer prayer instruction on its website.[3][4] As of 2018, Exodus Cry was listed as a "related tax-exempt organization" on tax filings submitted by the International House of Prayer and has partnered with the church for campaigns since then."

Here's an article in the Daily Beast  that exposes the religious roots and complete intent behind their efforts:

"Mickelwait’s case against Pornhub hinges on several real incidents of exploitation—most prominently, a class-action lawsuit against the amateur porn operation Girls Do Porn, which The Daily Beast covered extensively last year and which resulted in $12.8 million in damages being awarded to the victims. But the campaign’s claims about itself are less accurate. While Traffickinghub presents itself as “a non-religious, non-partisan effort,” the organizing force behind it is neither. Mickelwait’s employer—and the organization running the Traffickinghub campaign—is Exodus Cry, a fringe Evangelical group with far-right ties “prayed” into existence in a Missouri church, with the goal of abolishing the commercial sex industry entirely."

i was raised in the religious right and was under their thumb for much of my life. Getting free of that evil force was a torturous process for me and many others, and this has their scent all over it. Make no mistake, these guys also believe gays are going to burn in hell and back in the late 20th century were trying to pass and enforce 100 year old laws that would jail gay people for having sex with each other.  I know this is real, i lived it, and it is fucked up. 

Reverse it. Lets say someone decided they wanted to shut down the evil church and tried to shut down the Church of Christ because of what Jim Jones did? Of any number of other christian leaders who have broken the law (and there are plenty of them, ironically, many who have been caught in sexploitaion). Do a google on sexploitation in the church and see how long that has been going on and how widespread that has been. 

Why isn't The Justice Fund going after the church?

 

[MuscledHorse]

I am sad they are closing. I took a screen shot of my page a few weeks go. but PornHub still survives as does justforfans and onlyfans (I am JaredEriksonXXX on justforfans)

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[ErosWired]

17 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

with the goal of abolishing the commercial sex industry entirely."

This makes me laugh and laugh and laugh.

There are Roman frescoes on the walls of everyday households in Pompeii adorned with scenes of sexual acts. A statue was unearthed there of Pan doing the Deed with a she-goat. In marble! The Aztecs had a goddess - Tlazōlteōtl - specifically dedicated as the patron of vice, steam baths, lust, filth, prostitutes and adulterers (and the purification of the same after encouraging them to do it). A 4,000-year-old Babylonian bas-relief in The Israeli Museum is considered to be the world’s oldest depiction of anal sex, and why not? Herodotus tells us the Babylonians were sexually adventurous even by Greek standards (which was saying something) and loved watersports. There have been no human cultures - zero - in which the fascination with the prurient has not existed.

These poor, deeply repressed and sadly deluded zealots who think they’re going to abolish the commercial sex industry once and for all haven’t cracked a history book, or they’d give it up in despair. The entire Victorian Era failed to prevent Pornhub. I’m not a big porn consumer, but I used to go to Pornhub to check out certain compilations. Suddenly, they were all gone, thanks to the machinations of these people.

But you know what? I can get to practically every one of them now, and more besides, on xHamster and BarebackBastards. In a matter of less that six months, it was all back. How long did they have to work the politicians, push through the tortuous process of making laws, fighting the time-sucking legal challenges, just to gain their token victory? Way longer than that. Neither they nor anyone else has the stamina to win a war against humanity’s lust. They’re just sweeping the tide back into the sea.

By the way, I think you’ll find this article on the pornography of the Roman World fascinating:

[think before following links] [think before following links] https://vermiliongoldfishartblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/02/pompeii-pornography-power/

As libertine as they were, they did have acts considered tabu - and fellatio was among them. Sorry, cocksuckers.

Edited August 10, 2021 by ErosWired

[Guest]

3 hours ago, ErosWired said:

This makes me laugh and laugh and laugh.

There are Roman frescoes on the walls of everyday households in Pompeii adorned with scenes of sexual acts. A statue was unearthed there of Pan doing the Deed with a she-goat. In marble! The Aztecs had a goddess - Tlazōlteōtl - specifically dedicated as the patron of vice, steam baths, lust, filth, prostitutes and adulterers (and the purification of the same after encouraging them to do it). A 4,000-year-old Babylonian bas-relief in The Israeli Museum is considered to be the world’s oldest depiction of anal sex, and why not? Herodotus tells us the Babylonians were sexually adventurous even by Greek standards (which was saying something) and loved watersports. There have been no human cultures - zero - in which the fascination with the prurient has not existed.

These poor, deeply repressed and sadly deluded zealots who think they’re going to abolish the commercial sex industry once and for all haven’t cracked a history book, or they’d give it up in despair. The entire Victorian Era failed to prevent Pornhub. I’m not a big porn consumer, but I used to go to Pornhub to check out certain compilations. Suddenly, they were all gone, thanks to the machinations of these people.

But you know what? I can get to practically every one of them now, and more besides, on xHamster and BarebackBastards. In a matter of less that six months, it was all back. How long did they have to work the politicians, push through the tortuous process of making laws, fighting the time-sucking legal challenges, just to gain their token victory? Way longer than that. Neither they nor anyone else has the stamina to win a war against humanity’s lust. They’re just sweeping the tide back into the sea.

By the way, I think you’ll find this article on the pornography of the Roman World fascinating:

[think before following links] [think before following links] [think before following links] https://vermiliongoldfishartblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/02/pompeii-pornography-power/

As libertine as they were, they did have acts considered tabu - and fellatio was among them. Sorry, cocksuckers.

I don't think it is zealots, sex negs or prudes, but Xtube was done when they mass deleted people's profiles and pix unless you were an amateur porn guy, woman, or whoever. I guess they cannot compete with only fans and porn hub, or webcam sites?

[Guest]

20 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

Fuck. i wondered why, so i googled it and got this:

"XTube, a prominent pornographic streaming platform, is shutting down as its parent company faces mounting accusations that it facilitated sex trafficking on its subsidiary sites. The platform announced this week that it was disabling video and photo uploads as it prepared to close down on Sept. 5"

The Justice Defense Fund is the force behind the XTube closure.

and is  related to what RawTop is discussing in his post here .

It's not a clear cut topic, and i do not doubt there are illegal things that happen with XTube. By the same token there are illegal things that happen in churches too, would they cry foul if a large organization wanted to close churches down because of some of the illegal activities that go on there?  i write that because i smell the religious right in this activity. Though they are getting sneaky and learning to hide who they are and couch their agenda in terms like "sexploitation," their definition of what sex should be is a lot narrower than they present to the general public. Laila Mickelwait is the Founder and CEO of the Justice Defense Fund the force behind it, which claims to be a non-religious, non partisan organization. Yet, is its head and founder being honest and open about her agenda? 

A quick google on Laila Mickelwait provided this : 

"In February 2020, the organization's Director of Abolition, Laila Mickelwait, launched a petition to shut down the adult website Pornhub. Mickelwait's #Traffickinghub campaign was co-sponsored the National Center on Sexual Exploitation, an anti-pornography organization formerly known as Morality in Media. By September, the campaign had gained over two million signatures, and on December 10, following an opinion column by New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof alleging the site was being used to share sex abuse videos,[5] Visa and Mastercard stopped allowing Pornhub to accept credit card transactions.[6] Shortly after, the Canadian Parliament began hearings to investigate the allegations against PornHub.[7]"

"The organization originally developed out of a weekly prayer group founded in 2007 by Benjamin Nolot, a filmmaker and member of the charismatic Christian International House of Prayer. Nolot is currently the CEO of the organization. Exodus Cry says it is no longer directly affiliated with the church, but that it is faith-based and does offer prayer instruction on its website.[3][4] As of 2018, Exodus Cry was listed as a "related tax-exempt organization" on tax filings submitted by the International House of Prayer and has partnered with the church for campaigns since then."

Here's an article in the Daily Beast  that exposes the religious roots and complete intent behind their efforts:

"Mickelwait’s case against Pornhub hinges on several real incidents of exploitation—most prominently, a class-action lawsuit against the amateur porn operation Girls Do Porn, which The Daily Beast covered extensively last year and which resulted in $12.8 million in damages being awarded to the victims. But the campaign’s claims about itself are less accurate. While Traffickinghub presents itself as “a non-religious, non-partisan effort,” the organizing force behind it is neither. Mickelwait’s employer—and the organization running the Traffickinghub campaign—is Exodus Cry, a fringe Evangelical group with far-right ties “prayed” into existence in a Missouri church, with the goal of abolishing the commercial sex industry entirely."

i was raised in the religious right and was under their thumb for much of my life. Getting free of that evil force was a torturous process for me and many others, and this has their scent all over it. Make no mistake, these guys also believe gays are going to burn in hell and back in the late 20th century were trying to pass and enforce 100 year old laws that would jail gay people for having sex with each other.  I know this is real, i lived it, and it is fucked up. 

Reverse it. Lets say someone decided they wanted to shut down the evil church and tried to shut down the Church of Christ because of what Jim Jones did? Of any number of other christian leaders who have broken the law (and there are plenty of them, ironically, many who have been caught in sexploitaion). Do a google on sexploitation in the church and see how long that has been going on and how widespread that has been. 

Why isn't The Justice Fund going after the church?

 

It is not only the USA religious right, the USA left is also for censorship but both major parties in the USA are and have been the same for decades.  

College students in their 20s who are Gen Z are prudes, hate porn, and there have even been unis that students had IT departments ban any porn websites from being viewed on the uni's computer/network.

[FunCheerSlut]

27 minutes ago, TotalTop said:

College students in their 20s who are Gen Z are prudes, hate porn, and there have even been unis that students had IT departments ban any porn websites from being viewed on the uni's computer/network.

Are these the same kids who think creationism is a science and Darwin was a lunatic?

I am very scared for our future as the "curriculum" these kids have been taught is frankly akin to populist brain-washing.

[ErosWired]

1 hour ago, TotalTop said:

I don't think it is zealots, sex negs or prudes, but Xtube was done when they mass deleted people's profiles and pix unless you were an amateur porn guy, woman, or whoever. I guess they cannot compete with only fans and porn hub, or webcam sites?

Oh, there’s no doubt you’re right about that, but the point is that they wouldn’t have done that suicidal mass-deletion at all had it not been for the legal, financial and legislative pressure exerted. Those exerting the pressure don’t seem, however, to realize that they’re playing a game if whack-a-mole that’s been going on for a very long time and that nobody has ever come close to winning.

Do they think porn is this century’s Prohibition? Pick up a history book and read about how much success the Anti-Saloon League had while you sip your favorite alcoholic beverage from the package store down the street. No, the other package store. No, the other other one.

[ErosWired]

1 hour ago, TotalTop said:

College students in their 20s who are Gen Z are prudes, hate porn, and there have even been unis that students had IT departments ban any porn websites from being viewed on the uni's computer/network.

Heh. Not my two Gen-Zers. They’re not prudes at all. Purely their mother’s influence - she was a wild thing.

A porn ban on a university computer network is unsurprising; no publicly funded institution, and certainly no state-funded institution, could tolerate the political liability of allowing uncontrolled smut on its official servers. The eyebrow-raising thing would be if no such restriction existed and conditions became so egregious that students had to demand measures be taken. I would be interested in more information about the case you’re referring to.

[BlackDude]

3 hours ago, TotalTop said:

It is not only the USA religious right, the USA left is also for censorship but both major parties in the USA are and have been the same for decades.  

College students in their 20s who are Gen Z are prudes, hate porn, and there have even been unis that students had IT departments ban any porn websites from being viewed on the uni's computer/network.

Women use sex as a weapon.  Since many men are no longer interested in marriage, some women think limiting access to sexual outlets will force men to conform to their ridiculous idea of a “modern marriage” we’re women control everything, and men just settle for any monthly pussy the woman is willing to give out until she decides it’s time to cash out.

Like someone said, it’s wack-a-mole, but they will keep trying.

[BigVers]

Does anyone know if the videos that were taken down last year are available anywhere?  There was some HOT HOT anon hidden cam breeding videos on there that were taken down ...

and on topic...the rising levels of censorship should have everyone scared and pissed off...the religious right is growing more "right" and even though their ranks are diminishing they are very well funded and they fucking vote...they have no qualms about taking down anything gay or sex related all the while they are the ones tapping their toes under bathroom stalls ala Senator Larry Craig...

I'm going to miss the real amateur sex I got to watch on Xtube...

[BootmanLA]

1 hour ago, BigVers said:

Does anyone know if the videos that were taken down last year are available anywhere?  There was some HOT HOT anon hidden cam breeding videos on there that were taken down ...

That right there is precisely why so many amateur sites are having to shut down. "Hidden cams" are recording people who haven't consented to being recorded, and then those videos are being uploaded and shared widely. No doubt many of the videos uploaded were consensual, but enough weren't (and the legal liability the sites faced for facilitating those being distributed) was enough that no site was going to be able to survive if sued.

And frankly, while I know people want good porn, I'm not bothered by this. The entire reason sodomy laws (in the US) were struck down by the Supreme Court is that people have a reasonable expectation of a right to privacy over what they do in their own homes - that it's nobody's business. If someone secretly records you having sex (with themselves or with someone else) and distributes that recording online to the world, that privacy has been egregiously violated. We can't have it both ways; if we want the right to do what we want in private without government interference, we can't also have sex sites violating that privacy without repercussions.

Of course, there's nothing wrong with people uploading consensual videos as long as they're subject to the same rules as commercial porn: signed actor releases from everyone involved and permanent record keeping of proof of age of majority and proof of consent. The problem is that the "anon hidden cam" videos you like can't have those because (typically at least one of) the people involved never consented to recording and/or release of such video.

[BlackDude]

21 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

That right there is precisely why so many amateur sites are having to shut down. "Hidden cams" are recording people who haven't consented to being recorded, and then those videos are being uploaded and shared widely. No doubt many of the videos uploaded were consensual, but enough weren't (and the legal liability the sites faced for facilitating those being distributed) was enough that no site was going to be able to survive if sued.

And frankly, while I know people want good porn, I'm not bothered by this. The entire reason sodomy laws (in the US) were struck down by the Supreme Court is that people have a reasonable expectation of a right to privacy over what they do in their own homes - that it's nobody's business. If someone secretly records you having sex (with themselves or with someone else) and distributes that recording online to the world, that privacy has been egregiously violated. We can't have it both ways; if we want the right to do what we want in private without government interference, we can't also have sex sites violating that privacy without repercussions.

Of course, there's nothing wrong with people uploading consensual videos as long as they're subject to the same rules as commercial porn: signed actor releases from everyone involved and permanent record keeping of proof of age of majority and proof of consent. The problem is that the "anon hidden cam" videos you like can't have those because (typically at least one of) the people involved never consented to recording and/or release of such video.

I agree with this. But what do you think if it’s recorded in a public place?

[BootmanLA]

On 8/11/2021 at 5:45 PM, BlackDude said:

I agree with this. But what do you think if it’s recorded in a public place?

Legalities often differ depending on circumstances. Having sex in public, for instance (where that's permitted) may be a situation where an expectation of privacy doesn't exist (in fact, I'm almost certain that would be the case). But there isn't enough filmed public sex to supply enough content to keep a tube-type site going.