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Tops only, please: How do you feel toward a bottom once you’ve bred him?


ErosWired

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On 12/24/2021 at 10:13 AM, ErosWired said:

I don’t think we can extrapolate anything about a Top’s state of mind by comparing a bottom masturbating with Topping.

An orgasm is an orgasm and most men feel a complete lack of sexual arousal after the orgasm and the idea that a "top" is different from a "bottom" is not true.

The same way I turn off a computer after jacking off to porn most guys who have bred me react the same way and they just want to go take a shower of go home after shooting their load. I remember getting bred in cruising parks late at night and hearing the guy after breeding me saying "Oh, shit it's 3:30am and tomorrow I have to get up early!" Before the orgasm they were horny and unaware of how late it was until they are no longer horny. As I was still horny with his load in my hole and looking for another one.

The basic difference between a guy who tops and a guy who bottoms is that the bottom is still horny after the breeding. The top is done and that's why guys like to bottom, so that they can keep enjoying other guys' orgasms without actually shooting their loads.

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27 minutes ago, hungry_hole said:

An orgasm is an orgasm and most men feel a complete lack of sexual arousal after the orgasm and the idea that a "top" is different from a "bottom" is not true

Really - how can you be so sure that we're all like you describe?  First, not all Tops collapse in their needs after the first load leaves their balls.  If that's your personal experience, I'm sorry to know that.  Second, not all Tops are completely self-centered. Some of us actually do try to include the bottom as a "partner" in the event, even when serially rutting in the darkrooms, since that effort usually delivers a better experience for both guys.  I'd be interested to know how you've come to such assumptions, since I don't accept the lumping together of all Tops in one bag of perceptions. 

Everyone is who and what they are - and we're not a bunch of automatons.

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41 minutes ago, hungry_hole said:

most men feel a complete lack of sexual arousal after the orgasm and the idea that a "top" is different from a "bottom" is not true.

I didn’t say the Top’s orgasm is different, and my question isn’t even asking how his orgasm feels. I said the Top’s mindset is different from a bottom’s in how he chooses to pursue his orgasm, and his entire experience up to the point of climax bears nothing in common with a bottom giving himself a handjob.

But again, everything you say about what a Top is thinking after he cums is nothing but guesswork and assumption. Without being a Top you don’t know, and nothing in your history of posting here gives anyone any reason to think that you’ve ever been in that mindset such that you could speak with authority on the subject.

Which, again, is why I asked that only Tops reply to the topic.

41 minutes ago, hungry_hole said:

An orgasm is an orgasm

I’m very sorry if this has been your experience. In my experience, no two orgasms are the same, and I have enjoyed amazingly varied orgasmic variations, penile, anal, prostate, and hypnotic. They’ve run the gamut from mind-altering ecstasy to agonizing torture. I’ve had them come and go in an eyeblink, and I’ve ridden Tantric waves that kept going for more than five minutes of continuous climax. Every Top who breeds me has the potential to unlock an orgasm in me in a subtly different and memorable way, and many do. If orgasm is such a rich banquet for me, I can’t believe it’s just a one-item menu for every Top - in fact, I know it isn’t because of the way my local regular Top describes how he feels each time he breeds me. And I consider it my duty to ensure that any Top who penetrates me gets an orgasm he’s going to remember.

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If my bottom has worked hard to maximise my pleasure and give me a powerful orgasm. I.E. he grips my shaft tight with his ass muscle, pushes back hard when I thrust into him, compliments how good my hard cock feels in his ass, moans and grunts while Im pumping him and cums hands-free while Im nutting inside him then thanks me for my load then I thank him for milking me so good, I tell him how good a fuck pup he was  and order him to make his ass available to me when I next want it. If my bottom just lays still while I breed him once I've inseminated him he's served his purpose so I just pull out and leave.

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A rather interesting question indeed.  Honestly, for me, how I feel about a particular bottom I fuck and breed does depend upon the chemistry we have together.  Recently, I have been breeding a local college age twink boy whose cheery I took a few weeks back.  We have been doing the "daddy/son" thing which thoroughly gets him off.  So I will more than oblige.  In addition, I also have another college twink who enjoys getting fucked by a daddy and really can suck a good cock.  Overall, I can separate myself from the event and for most of the time, a hole is just a hole.  I do have one bottom I wholeheartedly would commit to, but he is not ready yet for that.  

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10 hours ago, Gimmiethatload said:

Definitely interested in see tops perspective as well....

It’s all the OP asked for. Not sure what about that the bottoms aren’t understanding. 

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On 12/26/2021 at 6:44 PM, hntnhole said:

First, not all Tops collapse in their needs after the first load leaves their balls. 

According to Masters and Johnson ([think before following links] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sexual_response_cycle) only a small number of men can orgasm during the resolution phase: "It is generally impossible for men to achieve orgasm during the refractory period."

I've been bottoming for decades and my experience of seeing men orgasm agrees with Masters and Johnson conclusions. I remember 2-3 men who after a minute could continue interested in sex and reach a second orgasm. God bless them!

The drop in excitement is so dramatic that in French the male orgasm is called "La Petite mort"

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La petite mort (French pronunciation: [la p(ə)tit mɔʁ]; "the little death") is an expression which means "the brief loss or weakening of consciousness" and in modern usage refers specifically to "the sensation of post orgasm as likened to death.".

When I started fooling around with guys I noticed this right away and realized that by only bottoming I would extend the pleasure of being horny while at the same time witness other guys' moaning and cum, which I would feel as a "mental orgasm" without reducing my own excitement.

I've read a couple of threads in this site where some men complain that after orgasm they are done, as if is something that happens to them and not to other men. How naive!

I've only enjoyed anon sex in parks, saunas, darkrooms and gloryholes and in these environments 99.99% of the times the guy leaves as soon as he cums. I'm sure that in a context of two guys who love each other the dynamic may be different, and the guy who cums can reengage and continue the sexual encounter.

I'm a bottom not because it's in my genes, as some guys have suggested in this site ("I was born a bottom").  I'm a bottom because I realized early in my sex life that it was more fun to hold my orgasm and then stay horny as hell while I let anonymous guys have their orgasms, which I would feel as my own. While getting fucked, when I hear the change in breathing and then the moaning and groaning milliseconds before he shoots, feels to me like I'm having my own orgasm with but without feeling the effects of the "resolution phase" that Masters and Johnson describe. That way, after the guy pulls out and I touch my cummy hole,  I'm even hornier than before and can continue taking loads feeling every one as my own "mental orgasm". 

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When you reach the goal, and deliver your load inside the body of the man you’re fucking, does having made that transfer alter the way you think of that man in any way?

This question is obviously from a bottom who forgets that after the guy shoots his load they've lost all interest in sex and I doubt they engage in a any thought about the anon hole they just fucked. It is the bottom who feels the cum in his hole and is now hornier that before who starts imagining that the top is still engaged in his hole. He's done, bye.

Women sometimes complain that their man after orgasms just rolls over and wants to go to sleep, and is not interested in cuddling. I personally love it when a guys breeds me and he's gone.

 

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On 11/20/2021 at 4:48 PM, revemupman said:

I’m 100% top and for me it’s primal, animalistic in nature. When I’m horny I cannot think rational. Everything is pure base animal lust. When I am fucking I am feeling every sensation of the bottom with the thought of how I’m going to release inside him. Once I grip the neck and feel my self throb and grunt inside a bottom I feel a sense of ownership over the bottom. This is why I hate when they try to push my load out after. Keep my load inside I want it buried deep in you.

Your load deserves to stay deep inside my guts to be absorbed and be in my gene pool.  Leave your dick inside and nap before you need another fuck to give, I'll hold you in waiting, Sir.

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5 hours ago, hungry_hole said:

This question is obviously from a bottom who forgets that after the guy shoots his load they've lost all interest in sex and I doubt they engage in a any thought about the anon hole they just fucked.

One hardly knows where to begin.

Is there a prize for the amount of complete bunk one person can utter in a single post? Because you may have just won it.

All your premises fail because you make two false assumptions: 1) That all men are exactly the same; and 2) That all men are exactly like you.

Your attempt to science your argument with Masters and Johnson is amusing, but you misinterpret them. “Unable to achieve orgasm” does not mean “loses all interest in sex” during the refractory period for all men. Then, not only do you turn around and refute them by saying that you can point to exceptions to this rule, you also speculate that the findings may not hold at all if the sex isn’t anon and at the kinds of places you go to fuck. But where’s your science to back that up? What? You just pulled that out of your ass? Naturally - that’s where you got all of this drivel.

Last week, my local regular Top seeded me three times without stopping. He almost never takes a break between breedings, he just keeps going. I can point to any number of experiences in which other men have kept on going, haven’t even lost their erections between climaxes. I like to think (and have some feedback to support the idea) that part of the reason these Tops keep going is the quality of the ass they’re enjoying. Perhaps quality of service is a factor when men lose all interest after a single climax. Regardless, the empirical evidence is conclusive: You are wrong, and your broad assumptions about other men arise solely from your imagination.

This is telling:

5 hours ago, hungry_hole said:

I'm a bottom because I realized early in my sex life that it was more fun to hold my orgasm and then stay horny as hell while I let anonymous guys have their orgasms, which I would feel as my own.

You would feel someone else’s orgasm as your own? That’s funny, because if you’re feeling what he’s feeling, then you should (according to you) instantly lose interest in sex the moment his orgasm is over. Because an orgasm is an orgasm, right?

But you don’t lose interest because you don’t, of course, actually feel other men’s orgasms any more than you can know what’s going on in a Top’s head during and after a fuck. (How you can even read what you wrote without embarrassment is beyond me.)

If you wish to continue to discuss your ideas about what you think Tops think, please start your own topic. This line of discussion is not pertinent to the question.

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For me, it depends on the bottom. I've got a couple married men that get off on being my cumdump, so I feed their urge. Pump and dump in them and give them the mindfuck they crave. They're dedicated. 

 

Others it's more intimate. The connection of taking the time to make sure they're as satisfied as I am in giving them as much they want. Looking into their eyes as their legs are on my shoulders. Making sure they're happy.

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1 hour ago, ErosWired said:

Is there a prize for the amount of complete bunk one person can utter in a single post? Because you may have just won it.

Yes !!!  There is a prize !!! 

Hmmm ... now where is that little button we can click on to relieve one's self of loose thought-trainlets, silly demonstrations of inability to compose coherent points of view?  I know it's somewhere around the site ... 

What is particularly inappropriate is when thoughtless individuals waste the intelligence of truly impressive minds, belonging to altruistic individuals who truly do give a hoot about helping others.   

One last word to Mr. Hungry Hole:  There are many qualities that excite a Top's interest, and one of the most important is fucking a man with a brain, and who uses it for other's betterment. 

Dullness = disinterest.  Intelligence = sexy.  Intelligence + altruism = totally sexy.

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18 hours ago, ErosWired said:

One hardly knows where to begin.

From the start.

18 hours ago, ErosWired said:

1) That all men are exactly the same; and 2) That all men are exactly like you.

I only know what I've experienced and what has been corroborated by sex researchers like Masters and Johnson.

18 hours ago, ErosWired said:

Your attempt to science your argument with Masters and Johnson is amusing, but you misinterpret them. “Unable to achieve orgasm” does not mean “loses all interest in sex” during the refractory period for all men.

All I can say is check some old threads I found where men explain how after orgasm they are usually done.

 

This one goes beyond simple lack of interest in sex, to the point where many men feel guilty and ashamed after orgasm.

 

18 hours ago, ErosWired said:

Last week, my local regular Top seeded me three times without stopping.

This has happened to me too a couple of times which is why I said that 99.99% of the men want anything else but sex right after orgasm. I've experienced at least 5,000 men orgasm in my cruising experiences and I can remember a couple of guys who are an exception. Once at a park, I sucked him off and swallowed his load and expected him to zip-up and leave, but he stayed for a second round. I also had a fuck-buddy, who after breeding me, without pulling out he would continue for a second round.

18 hours ago, ErosWired said:

I can point to any number of experiences in which other men have kept on going, haven’t even lost their erections between climaxes.

I'm sure you can point to more cases where after shooting the top disappeared. In an intimate environment with a known top yes, things could be a bit different. But in the "wild", bathhouses, parks and gloryholes, the guy is done after he cums 99.99% of the times.

If you don't believe me, you can try jerking off the next time you are horny and see what happens.

19 hours ago, ErosWired said:

You would feel someone else’s orgasm as your own? That’s funny, because if you’re feeling what he’s feeling, then you should (according to you) instantly lose interest in sex the moment his orgasm is over. Because an orgasm is an orgasm, right?

This doesn't seem like a very sensible remark because you are disregarding the fact that an "emotional orgasm" does not affect my prostate and does not follow Masters and Johnson's phases of the orgasm. An "emotional Orgasm" is simply a heightened level of arousal that happens also watching porn.

When I see a video of a guy getting fucked and then bred, followed by the leaking cum, hearing the guy cumming reminds me of the pleasure of my own orgasm. Getting actually fucked and bred at the sauna, hearing the guy at the height of his excitement, feels even more like an orgasm, especially when I discover the cum in my hole. Cum is the result of a male orgasm, and there it is: I had an orgasm!

But I didn't so I'm still horny, even hornier after what just happened, and I'm ready fr my next orgasm.

I think that you disagree with my approach because you feel more comfortable glorifying "tops" and like to think of them as God-like creatures. When I go to the sauna or park I do it because I like the environment of male-cruising, but also I do enjoy being horny for a long time without cumming, which is the reason I call myself a bottom.

Most bottoms say "I want to please" which I agree with, but more specifically, I want to see other guys cum and feel my body with cum and enjoy the experience. For instance, I explain my huge Fetish with Cum as a consequence of the male orgasm. Every time I came jerking off it would all end up with a loss of interest for sex but some cum that I had to clean up.

Seeing cum in porn movies and especially live, while still fully aroused, was wonderful. Being a bottom, which is a way guys understood what I was looking for,  was a way of experiencing cum in many ways and being able to stay horny as hell. I could see it, taste it and fully enjoyed it as long as it was an anonymous cock and cum.

 

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